More Motorola/Postal members admit doping - Page 3

You better not be, because, I don't know if anyone's mentioned this before, and I hate to make a personal attack, but you kinda look like a dog.

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Originally Posted by meehs
I don't want to start a big long doping debate. And I certainly am not picking on you personally Helmut...



Poor guy, someone even accused him of having a "Fat Face" the other day. The guy can't win.

lw

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Lance, it seems to me, has refused to talk about the topic of doping at all, as he didn't want his name associated at all with the topic. However, with the straits that professional cycling finds itself in today, I think it would be important for Lance to talk about his knowledge of doping among the peloton over his years as a cyclist. It wouldn't be necessary to name names. It would also be helpful if past riders, such as the announcers Phil Liggett, Paul Sherwin, and Bob Roll talked about their experiences (e.g., amphetamines have been abused for years, although I'm not certain what was illegal at their time). It saddens me that a great sport like cycling is suffering because it tests so strictly, while other sports which have weak testing procedures benefit from not having doping scandals. And why is cycling picked on first and most prominently in the Spanish Puerto scandal if they claim that other sports are involved? If a prominent footballer is implicated then certainly Europe would at least forget about the problems in cycling for awhile.

mbear37

Haven't you heard? There was no doping on Lance's watch. Anyone who says there was is trying to destroy cycling.

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"You are like the wind and I like the lion. You form the tempest. The sand stings my eyes and the ground is parched. I roar in defiance but you do not hear. But between us there is a difference. I, like the lion, must remain in my place. While you like the wind will never know yours." -- Mulay Hamid El Raisuli, Lord of the Riff, Sultan to the Berbers, Last of the Barbary Pirates

The truth is out there:

http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug...nnsi&type=lgns

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"You are like the wind and I like the lion. You form the tempest. The sand stings my eyes and the ground is parched. I roar in defiance but you do not hear. But between us there is a difference. I, like the lion, must remain in my place. While you like the wind will never know yours." -- Mulay Hamid El Raisuli, Lord of the Riff, Sultan to the Berbers, Last of the Barbary Pirates

Yeah, true. But I'm not the only one. Lwedge looks an awful lot like a dog too! He's right though. I've been getting picked-on about my appearance a lot lately...

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Rebellion with no point or purpose is worse than conformity.

Well, to be honest and open, I've been a little upset after I won the seventh stage at the Vuelta and I waved to you and you didn't wave back.

But I just looked at the picture and you are waving, so... my bad.

HR

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"Bait in 08" --nns1400

Haha! That's beautiful! Only I wasn't waving. I was trying to get you to give me a swig off of that 40. But you completely ignored me. Too busy basking int he glory I suppose.

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Rebellion with no point or purpose is worse than conformity.

Awesome photo.

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-Meek
"Some people train to look pretty. I just train so I can be the strongest man there is. And then again, I'm already pretty." -Magnus Samuelsson

The truth? You have to be kidding. The truth is, any sport where winning carries high financial rewards has a problem with PED's. Cycling happens to be the sport where the effort to combat PEDs is the strongest. They're not catching cyclists because they are dirtier than anyone else, they're catching cyclists because they are trying when other sports are not.

I particularly resent the SI article characterizing cycling as 'dirty'. All sports are dirty, cycling is at least making an effort to combat drugs. Why aren't the hot investigative reporters like Walsh and Ressiot going after the footballers involved with Puerto? Normally, a thinly kept secret like that is a magnet for the muckrakers. Anyone care to guess what would happen if the World Cup champions were put through a typical cycling dope control?

It's a shame that the belated but much needed efforts to combat PEDs in cycling are turning it into pro sport's sacrifical lamb. If that's how a cleanup effort will be interpreted by the media, the rest of the sports will be motivated... to keep sweeping it under the carpet.

I think the article is right on, but like you said other sports are dirty too. It would be nice to clean up other sports since most except for maybe curling and bowling are drug-ridden.

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-Meek
"Some people train to look pretty. I just train so I can be the strongest man there is. And then again, I'm already pretty." -Magnus Samuelsson

Oh, it's also refreshing that all of these naive idiots on this site are finally being forced to learn that their heroes are in fact admitting using drugs...

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-Meek
"Some people train to look pretty. I just train so I can be the strongest man there is. And then again, I'm already pretty." -Magnus Samuelsson

Look, Meek, the people on this "site" as you like to call it, know these riders well from the posters that adorne the ceilings of their bed rooms and interviews on TV and if some Lance or Jan knob slobber says they didn't dope then goddamnit they didn't dope.

Deal with reality... for a change!

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You're right, my fault. I'll go re-read Lance book(s) right now so I know the truth.

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-Meek
"Some people train to look pretty. I just train so I can be the strongest man there is. And then again, I'm already pretty." -Magnus Samuelsson

You do that.

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