More Motorola/Postal members admit doping - Page 4

Meek One · #46 09-13.-2006

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Originally Posted by helmutRoole2

You do that.

Read them quickly, yet thoroughly. Lance, once again, is my hero. And he is clean. I mean he is tested virtually every day so he has to be clean. Says so in the book. I believe him. I mean how could I have doubted him...He won the Tour...7(!) times...after cancer! What is a better admission of drug-free than that. Now that I am a believer again, I'll go buy my Carbon Trek and another 10 yellow arm band thingies. Go Lance.

helmutRoole2 · #47 09-13.-2006

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Originally Posted by Meek One

Read them quickly, yet thoroughly. Lance, once again, is my hero. And he is clean. I mean he is tested virtually every day so he has to be clean. Says so in the book. I believe him. I mean how could I have doubted him...He won the Tour...7(!) times...after cancer! What is a better admission of drug-free than that. Now that I am a believer again, I'll go buy my Carbon Trek and another 10 yellow arm band thingies. Go Lance.

That's more like it. You were a chump, now you're a champ. It's amazing how Lance -- if you just let him in your soul, acknowledge his superior being and shine in his light -- will bring you around to his way of thinking.

He is clean.

You know that now.

Go out and spread the word of Lance.

Meek One · #48 09-13.-2006

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Originally Posted by helmutRoole2

That's more like it. You were a chump, now you're a champ. It's amazing how Lance -- if you just let him in your soul, acknowledge his superior being and shine in his light -- will bring you around to his way of thinking.

He is clean.

You know that now.

Go out and spread the word of Lance.

I will. I feel so good... No there is a better word....CLEAN!!!

I am going to start a website and maybe a foundation to help the world know what I know.

Thanks again...everybody.

**limerickman** · #49 09-13.-2006

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Originally Posted by JohnO

The truth? You have to be kidding. The truth is, any sport where winning carries high financial rewards has a problem with PED's. Cycling happens to be the sport where the effort to combat PEDs is the strongest. They're not catching cyclists because they are dirtier than anyone else, they're catching cyclists because they are trying when other sports are not.

I particularly resent the SI article characterizing cycling as 'dirty'. All sports are dirty, cycling is at least making an effort to combat drugs. Why aren't the hot investigative reporters like Walsh and Ressiot going after the footballers involved with Puerto? Normally, a thinly kept secret like that is a magnet for the muckrakers. Anyone care to guess what would happen if the World Cup champions were put through a typical cycling dope control?

It's a shame that the belated but much needed efforts to combat PEDs in cycling are turning it into pro sport's sacrifical lamb. If that's how a cleanup effort will be interpreted by the media, the rest of the sports will be motivated... to keep sweeping it under the carpet.

This topic is sliding.

In respect of Walsh - he's written about cycling since 1982 : that's 24 years of good professional standing. (I used phone in the race results to him when he manned the results desk at the Turbo).
He's is cycling fan first and foremost.
Although he does write about other sports too.

Second - perhaps other sports do attract dopers too.
As cycling fans, we shouldn't use other sports as a point of reference.
Personally, I couldn't care less if every other sport is doped up to their gills - I want to see a clean sport. Naive? perhaps. But I'm willing to stake that fans of cycling want to see a clean sport and not the charade we have been subjected to in recent times.

lwedge · #50 09-13.-2006

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Originally Posted by helmutRoole2

Well, to be honest and open, I've been a little upset after I won the seventh stage at the Vuelta and I waved to you and you didn't wave back.

But I just looked at the picture and you are waving, so... my bad.

HR

I think he was actually trying to snag your Old English 800.

lw

Meek One · #51 09-13.-2006

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Originally Posted by limerickman

I want to see a clean sport. Naive? perhaps. But I'm willing to stake that fans of cycling want to see a clean sport and not the charade we have been subjected to in recent times.

But will we ever see clean cycling? No.

Someone will always outsmart the tests for the glory/money.

helmutRoole2 · #52 09-14.-2006

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Originally Posted by lwedge

I think he was actually trying to snag your Old English 800.

lw

The smoke finally settles and here comes wedge to stir the pot. What a class act. And you're both dogs. I thought you dogs looked out for each other. Apparently not!

tcklyde · #53 09-14.-2006

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Originally Posted by Meek One

But will we ever see clean cycling? No.

Someone will always outsmart the tests for the glory/money.

Also, I hear dope tastes great!

Meek One · #54 09-14.-2006

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Originally Posted by tcklyde

Also, I hear dope tastes great!

More money
Tastes Great
More Money
Tastes Great

I'm old, I remember those Miller Lite commercials.

tcklyde · #55 09-14.-2006

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Originally Posted by Meek One

More money
Tastes Great
More Money
Tastes Great

I'm old, I remember those Miller Lite commercials.

You don't have to be THAT old to remember those ads.

hombredesubaru · #56 09-14.-2006

RESPONDS TO ANDREU DOPING ADMISSION

The US Postal and Discovery Channel Professional Cycling Teams have had a long standing "no tolerance" policy with respect to the use of performance enhancing drugs. No rider has ever had a positive test during the 10 years these teams have competed. However, it has recently come to light that a former rider, Frankie Andreu, has admitted to the use of a banned substance while he was a member of the team.

We are saddened and disappointed by this recent revelation. Any suggestion that any form of doping has ever been encouraged or tolerated on this team is patently false. We have won our races (including 7 Tours de France, 1 Tour of Italy, 1 Tour of Spain, and many others) with regard for sportsmanship and fair play.

Team management will be investigating this issue and considering all legal options and trust that the relevant authorities (USA Cycling, USADA and the UCI) will be doing the same.

tcklyde · #57 09-14.-2006

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Originally Posted by hombredesubaru

RESPONDS TO ANDREU DOPING ADMISSION

The US Postal and Discovery Channel Professional Cycling Teams have had a long standing "no tolerance" policy with respect to the use of performance enhancing drugs. No rider has ever had a positive test during the 10 years these teams have competed. However, it has recently come to light that a former rider, Frankie Andreu, has admitted to the use of a banned substance while he was a member of the team.

We are saddened and disappointed by this recent revelation. Any suggestion that any form of doping has ever been encouraged or tolerated on this team is patently false. We have won our races (including 7 Tours de France, 1 Tour of Italy, 1 Tour of Spain, and many others) with regard for sportsmanship and fair play.

Team management will be investigating this issue and considering all legal options and trust that the relevant authorities (USA Cycling, USADA and the UCI) will be doing the same.

What a load of crap.

http://groups.msn.com/fatimabl/marzo...to&PhotoID=307

Meek One · #58 09-14.-2006

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Originally Posted by tcklyde

What a load of crap.

http://groups.msn.com/fatimabl/marzo...to&PhotoID=307

+1.

hombredesubaru · #59 09-14.-2006

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Originally Posted by tcklyde

What a load of crap.

http://groups.msn.com/fatimabl/marzo...to&PhotoID=307

Yeah, too bad Postal and Disco are so full of crap.
Meantime, Jan goes down....the real doper

German authorities secured samples of former Tour de France winner Jan Ullrich's DNA when they raided his Swiss residence Wednesday, according to a report released Thursday.

Germany's Sueddeutsche Zeitung said in an advance release of its Friday edition that authorities plan to compare the German rider's DNA with frozen blood seized at a Madrid clinic as part of a doping investigation that forced Ullrich and eight other riders to withdraw from this year's Tour.

fscyclist · #60 09-14.-2006

I think the reaction of many cycling officials to Andreu's statement is very telling. It's getting easier to sort out where people really stand.

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