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[TheDarkLord]

Originally Posted by Crankyfeet

They look like they've been pasted in to me... but this is the problem I have with alteration... the stunningness of a photo is often that it is a real image that underlies it. Once alteration begins... how does one know it's not just CGI?

Agree. IMO, it is fine to crop the picture, play around with levels to bring out shadows/highlights, sharpness, etc. But beyond a certain point, one has to ask whether the photo is more CGI than real.

[Malkmus]

Originally Posted by nns1400

I went to a really nice Art Fair today...supposed to be ranked best in the nation. I was going to go yesterday but never got around to it. Anyway, the photography exhibits are what really captured my attention. This guy's work was just phenomenal... I know some of you are into photography, so I thought you might be interested.

I'm afraid of course that some of the impact is lost looking at it over the net..but oh well...

http://www.vanscoyphotography.com/color/index.html

I fell in love with his stuff... especially the one titled We All Draw Circles. Also really liked Crows Landing and You Gave Me Rain. They are all great though.


And Cranky and Eden, he will be at an Art Fair in Bellevue at the end of June...isn't that part of Seattle?

Reminds me of a cross between Ansel Adams and one of the Wyaths. In fact, check out the similarity between his dunes and Adam's dunes.

http://www.anseladams.com/ansel-adams-photography.html

[Malkmus]

My two favorite artists.

Willem DeKooning: http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...-8&sa=N&tab=wi


Sidney Goodman:
http://images.google.com/images?q=si...-revision&cd=1

[Malkmus]

My son was watching the Flyers/Penquins game today. Its nice to see Sergei Gontchar bounce back and have a career after cycling.

[Bro Deal]

Originally Posted by Malkmus

My two favorite artists.

Willem DeKooning: http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&hs=gku&resnum=0&q=willem%20de%20kooning&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi


Sidney Goodman:
http://images.google.com/images?q=sidney+goodman&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi&oi=property_suggestions&resnum=0&ct=property-revision&cd=1

I like Thomas Moran.
http://images.google.com/images?um=1...=Search+Images

And J. M. W. Turner
http://images.google.com/images?um=1...=Search+Images

[Malkmus]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WCRk8bvNiE

[Bro Deal]

I also think that when the revolution comes, Thomas Kinkade should be one of the first put against the wall.

[thoughtforfood]

Originally Posted by Malkmus

My son was watching the Flyers/Penquins game today. Its nice to see Sergei Gontchar bounce back and have a career after cycling.

I thought that EXACT thing...

[Bro Deal]

Holy ****. I don't think Obama will have a problem winning Oregon.

[thoughtforfood]

Originally Posted by TheDarkLord

Agree. IMO, it is fine to crop the picture, play around with levels to bring out shadows/highlights, sharpness, etc. But beyond a certain point, one has to ask whether the photo is more CGI than real.

Actually, what he does is EXTREMELY difficult. He takes an image from a large format camera (think of is as a 10,000 megapixil camera that takes years to learn to operate artistically, and has no automatic functions), digitizes them (file sizes that will take up the space on your HD in a couple of photos), and then goes to work in the same manner that a traditional photographer would use other devices to burn and wash certain parts of a picture. After that, he colorizes certain parts of the photo to achieve the desired result. I would not doubt that he has literally hundreds of hours in each photo. On top of that, it is obvious that he knows precisely what he wants from his photo, and how to get it (may seem easy, but get Photoshop CS3 and see if you can understand how to use 10% of what it is capable of). What he does is extremely difficult. It may not seem so, and I can understand why you might think that, but trust me, it is brilliant work. Ad that to the fact that the equipment alone to do what he does probably costs into the hundreds of thousands of dollars, (in fact, I would love to see the computing power in his shop. He could run NORAD if he needed to) and what you have is someone who deserves praise in my opinion. Adams did similar things in the darkroom to his photos. In fact, it was found that he touched up some very famous works. The black sun being one. Nope, that guy is an artist of the finest quality in terms of using modern photographic techniques.

[thoughtforfood]

Originally Posted by nns1400

First of all...it's "art" not just photography...

Secondly...according to his website, he added some color to B&W...and may have altered the original image in that way, but I don't think it's cut and paste as you guys are talking about...

Thirdly... haven't you ever taken a photo, especially of a landscape, and thought, well, ****, that isn't what it looked like... I think these images capture the almost spiritual aspect of what you see sometimes...with the light streaming down just so in just a certain moment. If you have to fiddle with the image to get to what it was really like...well that's that.

The one I loved so much...of the beach...the reason I loved it, is because, OMG....that's what it's like at twilight, at low tide...with the rivulets making patterns in the almost purple sand.... but I can't take a picture of that...

Also...did you click on the "archived" category on the left? Some great ones there as well, especially the last one in that series!

Lastly...if you had seen these in 32x32...your jaw would have dropped like mine did...

Whew...gotta go make dinner..

On this subject, you are correct nns.

[Crankyfeet]

Originally Posted by thoughtforfood

On this subject, you are correct nns.

On this subject, I look to you guys for guidance. Thanks for the explanation of his art/craft TFF. I had no idea.

[Crankyfeet]

Sorry. But unless people are allowed to join this forum, it's farked.

One month now. No new members allowed to post.

[coneofsilence]

Originally Posted by Crankyfeet

Cut to the chase. Dee is on the other forum...

Yes she is... but even shes too smart for me. I need to get learned more.

[Bro Deal]

Originally Posted by Crankyfeet

Sorry. But unless people are allowed to join this forum, it's farked.

One month now. No new members allowed to post.

The new username I registered about a month ago is still waiting in the queue to get posting permissions. (Checked it yesterday.)

Not allowing people to join and post during a prime event like the Giro is a death sentence for the forum.

Steve is an asshole. I guess we could send him e-mail instead of a PM, but I doubt it will change anything.