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And for you, Natasha: Extract: Lost Worlds, What Have We Lost, & Where Did It Go? by Michael Bywater | Books | The Guardian

Go down to the bit headed, "Ancients, Wisdom of the" for the pertinent section.

Aw, but hell. This book is great. The first sampled entry, by way of example:
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From the Shulamite of the Song Of Solomon, via the Beautiful Youth of ancient Greek poetry, to the 20th century, with its clean-limbed heroes, its gods of the playing field and coyly bountiful goddesses of the Parisian hat shop or Californian drive-in, and taking in every poetical and artistic venture between the two - the swoonful amours of Courtly Love, Juliet on her balcony, Donne's lethal love-bunnies, the intolerable posturing of the Romantics, big-chinned pouting Pre-Raphaelites and all the rest - a constant of our species has been its yearning envy of youth: the liminal land between childhood and the groaning yoke of adult life, when everything is possible. Everything, on the whole, meaning hope and passion.

Not any more.

The old envy was based on an ancient asymmetry: we gave you all this, and you repay the debt by being younger? By outliving us? By having opportunities which we have lost?

But the bargain has been broken, the debt called in. Look at the world we have left to the hapless adolescents of the early 21st century. A world of food fads and neuroses, of exploitation through mass media. The affectless uniformity of the web. Danger lurking: perverts round every corner, terrorists in the shadows. A world where the sea kills fish, rain dissolves trees and sex means death. Of crumbling infrastructures, gridlock, collapsing health services. A world where only a few will be able to afford a house. A world of McJobs or no jobs or insane jobs which eat the whole of life. Where illusions are buried, childhood torn short, innocence drowned. A world of gendering and relativism, of spyware and databases, of political correctness.

Hell of a world. As if adolescence weren't a hell of a world enough already. The Observer writer Euan Ferguson once drew a terrible picture of the Lynx-reeking, unspeakable-groined young male, hunched in its room, expressing itself in verse:

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
I hate my parents.

But the true horror is that they don't hate their parents, poor things. Most of them seem to quite like their parents, because their parents, realising the world they will inherit, don't envy them any more. Almost the reverse. The baby boomers know that nobody ever will have it so good again, young (as they were) in the magical times between the invention of the pill and the advent of Aids: a two-decade golden age, a Saturnalia, where the laws did not run.

Poor adolescents. Bored by their music, stunned by their entertainment, living at home with parents who think of themselves as "friends", they are deprived of adventure, self-invention and the great treasure of being envied; and, worst of all, they are understood.

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
My parents are OK really.

And so the world goes to hell.
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Cool, I had similar thoughts as to why.
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This is utterly hilarious: Dock Ellis & The LSD No-No from NoMasTV - Video
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Great lesson for kids! Do LSD and pitch a no-hitter.
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And for you, Natasha: Extract: Lost Worlds, What Have We Lost, & Where Did It Go? by Michael Bywater | Books | The Guardian

Go down to the bit headed, "Ancients, Wisdom of the" for the pertinent section.

Aw, but hell. This book is great. The first sampled entry, by way of example:
Interesting...I do think it's funny when people wax rhapsodic about the ancient wisdom. Sells a lot of books.

As for the stuff about teenagers...well, teenagers are teenagers. I also think it's funny to listen to baby boomers talk about them. Boomers think they were the ultimate teenagers. Seriously, it was teens in the 80's. That was the peak of teenagerhood.
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And, just in time for the holiday (if you're in America, the rest of you can save it for Christmas or Festivus or whatever)....

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I thought this forum is active? :/
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I thought this forum is active? :/
Once upon a time, the forum was kind of dying...and this thread turned into a silly social thread in the meantime. Eventually the forum came back to life, and ironically, the thread died.

Steve keeps it up here just to be nice, I think. Just a place to post whatever. So post something if you want. Doesn't have to relate to anything else.
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Once upon a time, the forum was kind of dying...and this thread turned into a silly social thread in the meantime. Eventually the forum came back to life, and ironically, the thread died.

Steve keeps it up here just to be nice, I think. Just a place to post whatever. So post something if you want. Doesn't have to relate to anything else.
Sounds like it's time to move this thread to the Cafe...
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Sounds like it's time to move this thread to the Cafe...
You think a thread with over 23000 posts is in the wrong place? No. Though many of the protagonists have retired, this is where it belongs.

Perhaps it has the wrong name, though. We always just shortened it to 'the FID' anyway; maybe it should be called that?
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And, just in time for the holiday (if you're in America, the rest of you can save it for Christmas or Festivus or whatever)....

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That looks like a winner! Some of it would need translation for my neck of the woods: 'The South will rise again' for example.

There's that proverb that I first come across in a children's book, of all things: 'After three days, fish and visitors begin to stink.' Never truer than of family gatherings at Christmas-time.
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Perhaps it has the wrong name, though. We always just shortened it to 'the FID' anyway; maybe it should be called that?
That's a good idea, but since the forum is much improved, I'm thinking that 'FIND' might be a bit better...

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You think a thread with over 23000 posts is in the wrong place? No. Though many of the protagonists have retired, this is where it belongs.
I'm suggesting moving this thread because it has taken on many other subjects besides pro cycling.
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The thread was merged a while back and my memory is not always great but I recall posting "This forum is not dying" in the Cafe but when it was merged it was pulled to where it is now.
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