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Maybe he thinks that if he announces his retirement then there is less of a chance that the UCI will appeal his one year suspension to CAS. He can come out of retirement right before the Olympics.
If he retires his ban is unvalidated until he comes out, so the only possibility is to do it for have just one year and no retirement if he wants to race at JO
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Bruyneel will be officially reporting to him very soon now
Yes maybe one year ban means Vino will join team as management next summer.
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Yes maybe one year ban means Vino will join team as management next summer.
He's done: http://velonews.com/news/fea/13769.0.html

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No more Vino': 'I don't want this sport anymore'
By Agence France Presse
Filed: December 7, 2007

Alexander Vinokourov, suspended for blood doping by his national federation, announced his retirement from the sport at a press conference in Almaty, Kazakhstan, on Friday.

The 34-year-old and his Astana team were kicked out of the 2007 Tour de France after he tested positive for homologous blood doping.

"I am stopping competition ... It's a definitive decision," he told a news conference. "I don't want this sport anymore ... I'm slamming the door and I'm leaving."

Vinokourov was fired by his Kazakh-financed, Swiss-registered team following the positive test, which indicated the presence of a secondary population of red blood cells, evidence that he had injected blood from a donor in order to enhance his endurance. Following the result, the entire team pulled out of the Tour.

The following month, teammate Andrey Kashechkin was found positive for the same infraction. Kashechkin, too, has denied guilt and has filed a law suit, challenging the UCI's authority to demand blood and urine samples from riders.

Despite his decision to retire, Vinokourov said he is considering an appeal of Thursday's ruling by the Kazakh Cycling Federation to suspend him for a year.

"It's sad that my career is ending like this but I want to restore my honor ... I will prove that I'm not guilty and get the results of this test rescinded," he said.

The Kazakh cycling federation banned Vinokourov for one year, a decision that would have allowed him to compete at the Beijing Olympics as his suspension runs up to July 2008, the month before the games start.

But officials from the UCI, cycling's international governing body, expressed concern over the light penalty as cycling rules - in keeping with the World Anti-Doping Code - call for a two-year suspension for a first offense and a life-time ban for subsequent violations.

Vinokourov, who said that he would be consulting his American attorney, Maurice Suh, regarding an appeal of his suspension, blamed anti-Kazakh bias for his problems.

"When we built the Astana team people started to talk behind our backs asking where are these Kazakhs coming from?" he said. "They told us they didn't want us in Europe."

Vinokourov, long considered a Tour de France contender and winner of the 2006 Vuelta a España, claimed that doping was not more rife in cycling than in other, more high-profile, sports which were protected from scandals by their financial clout.

"I don't think cycling is dirtier than any other sport," he said. "We're 150 people, where are the others? Where is tennis, where is football? They've been told not to touch them.

"I've the impression that cycling is an orchestra with very good musicians but a bad conductor. That's the reason the sport is a mess."
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Thank you, helm. Vino will not go down without a stiff fight...
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I never knew that Astana was kicked out of the tour. I thought they retired after Vino was kicked out.
Vino is 34 and would need one the greatest come backs of all time to compete which would include intensive training and the ability to compete in some early tune up races in 2008 which can't happen because of his suspension.
Retirement is the best direction he can take.IMO
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funny, he more or less admits they all dope in the end.
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Vinokourov, who said that he would be consulting his American attorney, Maurice Suh, regarding an appeal of his suspension, blamed anti-Kazakh bias for his problems.
man that sounds familiar.

Amazing, that the UCI/ADA hired anti-Americans and anti-Kazakh folks, you;d think they'd be hard to find
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It looks like Suh is building quite a career for himself. If it were me I would hire a lawyer who had shown he could win a case. Or maybe I would hire TTF if he could keep fromlaughing at own his arguments.
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If he retires his ban is unvalidated until he comes out, so the only possibility is to do it for have just one year and no retirement if he wants to race at JO
I did not know that. It does make sense.
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ALMATY, Dec 11 (Reuters) - Cycling is as clean as other professional sports but low budgets and a weak federation have made it an easy target for the media and anti-doping crusaders, according to banned rider Alexander Vinokourov.

The 34-year-old Kazakh announced his retirement from the sport last week after he was suspended by the country's cycling federation for a year following a positive test for a homologous blood transfusion during the 2007 Tour de France.

"Cycling is a scapegoat now," he told Reuters in an interview. "I don't think bike racing is any dirtier than other sports -- soccer, tennis.
"It's just popular to sensationalise bike racing these days, and they are just trying to do it as often as possible."

The pre-Tour favourite, who won two stages of this year's race, was sacked by his Astana team in July following the positive test.

Vinokourov said budget disparities made the International Cycling Union (UCI) an easy target for the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).

"In all of cycling there is a budget of maybe 200 million euros ($293.3 million). But if you take soccer for example, at Chelsea alone there might be 300 million euros. It's just completely different money," Vinokourov said.

Vinokourov said WADA was closing its eyes to suspected doping in other sports because the professional federations running them were too powerful and would not submit in the way cycling had.

"If WADA is really fighting for clean sport, then why is it that if in Spain (doctor Eufemiano) Fuentes has a list of 150 athletes, they only announce the cyclists?" he said.

Fuentes was at the centre of the Operation Puerto investigation, which was launched after police found anabolic steroids, blood transfusion equipment and more than 200 bags of blood at addresses in Madrid and Zaragoza in May 2006.

The case was closed in March without any charges laid, although the Spanish government has appealed against the ruling.


Vinokourov thought cycling was risking its livelihood and status by constantly bowing to pressure from WADA.

"What I see is that cycling is moving in this direction where it's going to be tough to fight, and if it continues it's possible that it could be excluded from the Olympics, and then bike racing will just die."

He said riders were less to blame for the current state of cycling, which has been hit by a number of doping scandals this season, than the administration running the sport and the managers who surround it.

"I see us as a good group of people with a bad conductor. Everybody plays their own music and in the end you just end up with a complete mess," he said.

Former Tour de France winner Bjarne Riis admitted to doping, saying he took performance enhancing substances during 1996, the year of his race victory.
In September, 2006 Tour winner American Floyd Landis was stripped of his title and suspended for two years for a positive test for synthetic testosterone during his victorious ride. Landis is appealing the punishment.
Michael Rasmussen was sacked by his Rabobank team, while leading the 2007 Tour for lying about his training schedule, an allegation the Dane denies, and Italian Cristian Moreni failed a dope test for testosterone.
Vinokourov has maintained his innocence and is appealing against his ban.

"Of course I want to lodge an appeal. Nobody would allow his image, something built up over years, to be pulled down in one day," he said.
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