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Is it sporting fraud? Or does it go by a different name?

Just interested.
Don't know the name of the law specifically - but it was the law which allowed the French Gendarmerie to take several riders away for questioning during last years Tour de France : (Italian cyclist - name escapes me - was filmed being led away by the French police).
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morelike hypocrisy.
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It's more than a fraud, doping is unhealthy, so encourage it, it's like wounded someone or to put the live in jeopardy (?).

A (machine translation) excerpt from http://www.santesport.gouv.fr/conten...iciels/loi.asp

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Article L. 232-26
The fact of prescribing in violation of the provisions of the second and third subparagraphs of the article L. 232-2 of this code, to yield, offer, manage or apply to a sportsman mentioned with the article L. 232-9, a substance or a process mentioned to that the article, to facilitate its use or to encourage, in some manner that it is, this sportsman with their use is punished five years of imprisonment and 75 000 euros fine. The sorrows envisaged with the first subparagraph are increased at seven years of imprisonment and 150 000 euros of fine when the facts are made in organized band, within the meaning of article 132-71 of the penal code, or when they are made with regard to a minor.
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It's more than a fraud, doping is unhealthy, so encourage it, it's like wounded someone or to put the live in jeopardy (?).

A (machine translation) excerpt from http://www.santesport.gouv.fr/conten...iciels/loi.asp

This is the law in France?
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This is the law in France?
Yes, it's a part of the law.
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Yes, it's a part of the law.
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Thanks.
I think you've got to go there this July helmut for your research...
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Thanks.
De rien.

Now if you have to bring with you on Tour de France a shoe box for some of your pro cycling friends, you know why you will open that box!
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I think all thise sports fraud stuff is bogus. Every country already has laws against regular run of the mill fraud, and that is exactly what doping in sport is. The athletes are defrauding sponsors, race organizers, companies they have personal endorement contracts with, people stupid enough to contribute to defense funds, etc. Just charge them with regular criminal fraud.
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Which makes sense.

WADA has been signed up to most sovereign goverments (IOC made signing up compulsory prior to 2004 Olympics, if nations wanted to take part in the Olympics).

Perhaps WADA need to present a template legal document via UN - then it might quicken the entire process??
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2008/feb08/feb08news
US closer to signing anti-doping treaty

The United States took one step closer to signing a treaty intended to help fight doping in sport when President Bush asked the Senate to ratify the International Convention Against Doping in Sport on Thursday. The World Anti-doping Agency (WADA)-backed agreement, which was drawn up under the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO), has already been ratified by more than 70 other nations.

The UNESCO treaty formalizes global anti-doping rules under the WADA code, getting around issues which prevented some governments, such as the United States, from being legally bound by documents of non-governmental organizations such as WADA.

The White House statement noted that the treaty was in agreement with existing US laws and policies, but the aim was to "solidify our Nation's place as a leader in the worldwide effort to rid athletics of cheating through chemistry."

The latest WADA code, which will go into effect on January 1, 2009, restricts the International Olympic Committee (IOC) to selecting host cities only in countries which have ratified the UNESCO treaty.

The accord, which was due to go into effect last year, could aid in the punishment of those who aid the athletes in procuring or using the doping products and to punish physicians based on their involvement in doping practices.
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A wonderful success of Floyd's campaign. A real winner or whiner!
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The accord, which was due to go into effect last year, could aid in the punishment of those who aid the athletes in procuring or using the doping products and to punish physicians based on their involvement in doping practices.
This is where the real breakthrough will occur IMO.

An analogy IMO would be that the fight against smoking didn't make any inroads until they switched to non-smokers as their target.
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