Trek ends relationship with Lemond - Page 2

Tim Lamkin · #16 04-08.-2008

Funny how fanaticism can destroy ones business .....career and the view others might have of you

thoughtforfood · #17 04-08.-2008

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Originally Posted by Bro Deal

I won't buy a frame from a large company. I don't see a reason to do so at the high end. Most of the companies do their manufacturing in asia, yet they want to charge the same amount as a frame made in the U.S. by a small builder. I look at it as ripping off the customer. Why the fark would anyone buy a top end Specialized when for the same price you can buy a custom Parlee or Moots, made by people you can talk to before its built to your specification and those people make a living wage?

And I don't understand Trek's has naming strategy at all. It seems like nearly every bike they make is some variation of "Madone." Plus they now look like knockoffs of Giant frames.

Come to think of it, Trek has lost some of their desireability over the last few years. They have become so successful that their bikes are too common. I am sure they are making a killing in the low and mid-level markets, but at the high end they are no longer lustworthy. The people who previously would have bought high end Treks are now buying Cervelos and such.

Agree completely.

There are some amazing companies building bikes in the US and Canada, spend the same money and buy one if you are in the market.

I got my Alibi in the late '90's when I called Ibis one day to see if they had an employee purchase program for bike shop employees who worked for a shop that didn't carry their line in-house.(we had ordered) I talked to one of the guys, and he told me about this one-off Alibi they had that was painted "young asparagus" and that they would sell it to me for the employee discount. Well, it took me about 1 second to decide. He had me at "young asparagus." That bike looks better with dirt on it than any bike I have ever ridden.

I also have a Brew hardtail that rides amazingly well after all these years.

Give me custom or give me Lazyboy!

thoughtforfood · #18 04-08.-2008

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Originally Posted by Bro Deal

Interesting that they are using a mentality from about 2005 to view the situation. Most of the serious fans who were pissed off about Lemond have been forced to acknowledge that he was right. My gut feeling is that Lemond has garnered a lot of respect recently as Hamilton, Landis, Heras, OP, et cetera have been revealed. He is on the up. Armstrong, as he tries to disconnect himself from pro cycling, is sinking.

This might be a good time to get away from Trek.

Did you catch that VS is airing the Boston Marathon and advertising it as "Lance Armstrong's first Boston Marathon."

Bro Deal · #19 04-08.-2008

I would not be surprised if Lemond has his own set of saved e-mails from Trek...

TheDarkLord · #20 04-08.-2008

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Originally Posted by Bro Deal

I would not be surprised if Lemond has his own set of saved e-mails from Trek...

Yes, he should have his stash if he is as successful in lawsuits as he is reputed to be.

huboon · #21 04-08.-2008

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Originally Posted by thoughtforfood

Read this ****: http://www.trekbikes.com/pdf/media/e..._PPT_FINAL.pdf
This is the presentation Trek made to its employees. What a ******* joke.

The last frame is priceless. All the Trek employees are so happy that Evil Greg is gone. It truly is a great day!

Bro Deal · #22 04-08.-2008

Lemond and other plaintiffs (mostly relatives if I remember right) win $38 million in another suit.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/eur...lub_to_settle/

fscyclist · #23 04-08.-2008

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Originally Posted by thoughtforfood

OK, I was with you right up until you dissed mountain biking....there is no better aggression release than bombing through the woods in excess of 20 mph, NONE. Actually, I have hated Trek since they bought Bontrager. He used to make sweet hard tails, then the mass market slimebags got a hold of the company and turned it into just another cookie cutter bike.

Give me a bunch of potheads with some Reynolds 953 and a jig, and I will buy your bike....ok, Vanilla and Seven probably don't have a bunch of potheads hanging around, and Ibis now makes carbon (Still have my Alibi, and am looking for a Mojo purchased by a little old lady who only rode it to church.) I might be in for a Pegoretti in the next few years in terms of road. The rest of the Specialgianttreck'ojunks can all be thrown off a large cliff...so long as someone hikes down and cleans up the mess..as far as I am concerned.

Maybe I overstate things on occasion.... I was a roadie long before the MTB scene exploded then died. I enjoy MTB'ing but am a roadie at heart. Not a fan of the MTB crossover racers, if you haven't noticed. Their technique is abysmal, they have a habit of sucking wheels, staring at their front wheel when they climb, and of course the incessant whining.

I strongly considered a Pegoretti for my last frame as he makes some sweet steel bikes, but I never liked his paint schemes. There are some good framebuilders in the US and I've always liked Waterfords, especially when they were making Paramounts back in the day. I'm a little partial to Italian frames, though, as you need some style in addition to performance.

thoughtforfood · #24 04-08.-2008

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Originally Posted by fscyclist

Maybe I overstate things on occasion.... I was a roadie long before the MTB scene exploded then died. I enjoy MTB'ing but am a roadie at heart. Not a fan of the MTB crossover racers, if you haven't noticed. Their technique is abysmal, they have a habit of sucking wheels, staring at their front wheel when they climb, and of course the incessant whining.

I strongly considered a Pegoretti for my last frame as he makes some sweet steel bikes, but I never liked his paint schemes. There are some good framebuilders in the US and I've always liked Waterfords, especially when they were making Paramounts back in the day. I'm a little partial to Italian frames, though, as you need some style in addition to performance.

I agree about the crossovers, they suck...wheels especially. Actually, I am glad MTB craze died down too. The trails are in better condition.

Serafino · #25 04-08.-2008

Despite a decent product during the past year, Lemonds lanquished unsold at a variety of dealers (Trek and otherwise). I spoke to a few shop owners, and they said that they were excited by the product but shocked that it just wouldn't sell AT ALL.

Whatever you think of his comments re: LA, Lemond was an idiot commercially.

Malkmus · #26 04-08.-2008

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Originally Posted by kennf

Yeah, that slide show pissed me off. Nice use of "anonymous" e-mails in a published presentation.

We should all email Trek and tell them we won't buy Trek because they've dropped Lemond. That way Lemond can get them in discovery and shove them back in their face at trial.

Malkmus · #27 04-08.-2008

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Originally Posted by thoughtforfood

Agree completely.

There are some amazing companies building bikes in the US and Canada, spend the same money and buy one if you are in the market.

I got my Alibi in the late '90's when I called Ibis one day to see if they had an employee purchase program for bike shop employees who worked for a shop that didn't carry their line in-house.(we had ordered) I talked to one of the guys, and he told me about this one-off Alibi they had that was painted "young asparagus" and that they would sell it to me for the employee discount. Well, it took me about 1 second to decide. He had me at "young asparagus." That bike looks better with dirt on it than any bike I have ever ridden.

I also have a Brew hardtail that rides amazingly well after all these years.

Give me custom or give me Lazyboy!

I love my Cannondales. Just a little concerned about the new owner.

Malkmus · #28 04-08.-2008

**** Trek. They are just lieing bull**** PR spin. Don't believe a word Trek says. When Connie Ryland, their spokesperson lies through her teeth, you can't believe anything the company says. Zero.

Connie, you know you are full of bull**** over Rebelin's "prototype" Klien. You admitted to me that you were lieing. Come on Connie. Admit it.

fscyclist · #29 04-08.-2008

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Originally Posted by huboon

The last frame is priceless. All the Trek employees are so happy that Evil Greg is gone. It truly is a great day!

Finally looked at the slide show. My favorite are all the quotes. I'm sure that is a representative sample and they never received any comments in favor of LeMond or negative comments about LA.

My favorite is "Why would you ride a LeMond bike?" Lemond Customer email. That's a bright fellow. You think he would've remembered himself.

I think I will email their customer service and cc: Lemond.

kennf · #30 04-08.-2008

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Originally Posted by Serafino

Despite a decent product during the past year, Lemonds lanquished unsold at a variety of dealers (Trek and otherwise). I spoke to a few shop owners, and they said that they were excited by the product but shocked that it just wouldn't sell AT ALL.

Whatever you think of his comments re: LA, Lemond was an idiot commercially.

Really? All the shops I've spoken to weren't stocking the Lemonds. Not because of lack of interest, they just had to keep space for the 2,000 Treks lining the floor. That can happen when you forbid the company rep (Lemond) from showing up at the trade shows. Interesting way to promote a brand.

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