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Lance is not safe yet. Riis had retired. People talk. The truth has an uncanny ability to work its way to the surface. Any deal he's made with witnesses or cohorts to gag the truth is vulnerable in the future.
I agree. It's very possible that in ten years time. Most of the riders Lance rode with during his 7 wins will have confessed to using doping, while riding for USP/Disco. That will put a lot of pressure on Lance.
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The retrotested urine proved that fairly conclusively. It is one of the things that makes the Beltran situation interesting. His retrotested urine from the 1999 prologue was also positive for EPO, and now he has been busted for EPO years later it lends further credence to the retrotesting.

The problem with Lance homers is that they insist on "beyond a shadow of a doubt" evidence. There is really nothing other than video that would satisfy them. Even that might not be enough. They would probably claim the video was doctored. There is more than enough evidence to produce a "beyond a reasonable doubt" conclusion.

It is my view that while Armstrong (and many others) doped, the tolerance to allow widespread doping is the responsibility of the UCI.
Armstrong and the rest of them were allowed dope, by the UCI.
That's my view.

And in stating that this doesn't mitigate Armstrong and the rest of them in terms of their guilt.
They're guilty.
The UCI is equally culpable in my view.
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Small update:

His B sample is positive as predictable...
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I agree. It's very possible that in ten years time. Most of the riders Lance rode with during his 7 wins will have confessed to using doping, while riding for USP/Disco. That will put a lot of pressure on Lance.
To be honest he's doesn't care. His life outside cycling is bigger than it ever was in cycling.
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To be honest he's doesn't care. His life outside cycling is bigger than it ever was in cycling.
He's coming back to Astana to ride a few races next year. He cannot stand being out of the limelight.
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He's coming back to Astana to ride a few races next year. He cannot stand being out of the limelight.

No chance. I saw him ride Paris-Nice & Flanders in 2005 and he was ****e. There is no way he'll chance his arm minus the dope in piss hand small races. He'll get killed. His fanbase thinks he can win everything.
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If One Ball comes back it would be in US only, too much risk to see 6 EPO samples in front of european newspapers.
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No chance. I saw him ride Paris-Nice & Flanders in 2005 and he was ****e. There is no way he'll chance his arm minus the dope in piss hand small races. He'll get killed. His fanbase thinks he can win everything.
If he comes back then it will be a pure publicity stunt, like running New York and Boston. He would probably be aiming for something similar to Cipo at California. He does not need to win, just put in a semi-passable performance and sign autographs.

He could do California and Georgia. I don't think he cares about the European press, so if he raced there he would need something that would be covered by Versus. Maybe P-R. I don't think he would do the Tour de France.
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He's coming back to Astana to ride a few races next year. He cannot stand being out of the limelight.
So Bro how did you get this scoop a week before it happened ?
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