Ricco positive for EPO - Page 4

Liquigas will have Basso at the helm so I reckon no. Barloworld did not defend their polka dots and have two EPO positives so I reckon no. Saunier Duval as a sponsor might well leave the sport after this, so that's another no. lol

Why do you think, WADA chose NOT to elect a Frenchman after **** Pound left?? He was too dangerous, too categoric in his actions.

Well the world (especially Americans) make fun of the French, because they are whimps and don't know how to take decisions. I can only say, well done ASO, AFLD and French authorities in this matter.

Edit: Ooh, and I say it again, I'm from Luxembourg, I'm proud of Kim, Frank and Andy, but if at any moment I realised one of them is cheating, don't want to see them again on a bike. But would still watch Tour de France, and cheer Garmin, Cadel, whoever is the best and "clean" out there...

I can only hope, that with so many Spaniards out, the Spanish justice and also the Spanish public will be tougher on their judgments concerning Puerto, and that that case might finally move on.

Oh, and other thing, if this Tour de France had been following PRO Tour rules, no chance ANY of these guys would have been caught !!!!

Very good point. For the UCI cleaning up the sport means preventing doping scandals, not preventing doping.

Whats interesting,according to eurosports, Ricco tested positive in the Time Trial, the one he was a decade behind everyone in. THis is just a shame and just makes it even harder for anyone to win a stage, because everyone will think the same thing, what is so and so on.

Really not a very big surprise that Ricco was doping...it'll be interesting to see the results from Piepoli's test. BTW what does this mean for the Giro standings and the Tour de France KOM points & stage wins?
But you can see that by not inviting Astana the Tour de France did everything to avoid a scandal...If SD stays onboard to 2009 it'll be interesting to see if they get an invite.

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It looks like AFLD is doing a good job so far. Keep up the good work, I say.

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agreed. this was on cyclingnews yesterday before the Ricco bust.

Concern voiced over doping controls

By Shane Stokes

Concern has been raised over doping controls held at this year’s Tour de France, with a manager from an un-named team contacting the UCI in relation to the selection of riders and the actual method of gathering samples.

The AFLD [French national anti-doping agency] has been appointed by race organiser ASO to carry out the tests in the aftermath of its split from the UCI. According to the team manager, only about fifty riders were tested thus far, with several being tested more than once. The Spanish are being examined most frequently, while testing of French riders was said to 'rarely occur.'

He gave an example of a lack of testing of a French team, saying that of the Crédit Agricole riders, only stage winner Thor Hushovd was tested since the start of the race.

In addition, concern was raised about the actual testing process. The chaperones were described as 'incapable,' with the manager saying that on the eleventh stage, one was unable to correctly fill out the required forms. Also, when large numbers of riders were required for testing, the area was said to be not sufficiently large and that some of the riders were required to wait outside beside journalists and photographers.

ASO and the AFLD said before the race that they would be focusing on targeted testing rather than a scattergun approach. Two Spanish riders have already tested non-negative for EPO and been ejected from the race, namely Manuel Beltran (Liquigas) and Moises Duenas Nevado (Barloworld).

Wow, does this mean A Luxembourger might have won a stage (Schleck)??? Wait, wait, they would need to find positives for Piepoli and Cobo first...!!! Hmmmm...

It's a bit disappointing. I was looking forward to some good tussles between Contador and Ricco over the next decade or so.

Ricco must have had it in his blood during the Giro. What pisses me off is that the events that are serious about testing are the ones that take the hit when a positive comes out.

The question has to be asked... why weren't the UCI using the sames tests and catching Ricco before now?

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You ARE joking, right??

We know the answer... but they should have to answer... publicly.

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The UCI would have to give back the bribe money, and Verbruggen refuses to give up his cut.

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+1. Cranky, if you are STILL under some sort of delusion about the UCI, wake up now!

A french poster on another site is saying that french police are preventing the SD buses and cars from leaving for Spain. They will probably be searched.

This could get ugly.

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I was never under any delusion about past corruption of the UCI. Get that straight. I was mistaken about the ASO it seems and my take on the French desire to have less scandal at their event.

The UCI to me seemed to be the best chance going forward (best of two evils), with the big assumption that changes had been made with the introduction of Anne Gripper.

So please TDL, don't simplify/corrupt what I was saying into a pro-UCI or pro-ASO dichotomy. The problem isn't that simple IMO.

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