Somehow, I can't get excited about it this year - Page 2

helmutRoole2 · #16 07-04.-2009

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Originally Posted by Geoff Vadar

To be honest its because of people like you (uneducated, immoral, slightly mentally retarded) ...

If you posted this on your own pos forum you'd have to ban yourself.

However, I have to say, I think this could be the best Tour in quite some time.

pantani_lives · #17 07-04.-2009

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Originally Posted by Bro Deal

Yup. Armstrong in the race makes it a farce. Does anyone really think he won't be doped to the eyballs just like he was before?

I agree. The hero worship he's treated with is repulsive. My only hope is that he will finally be caught officially, but I suppose that will never happen.

Klodifan · #18 07-05.-2009

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Originally Posted by Cobblestones

Klodifan,

Nice of you to say that.

You know, when I made my avatar on this forum, I was considering something similar as 'Klodifan'. I always thought that Kloden was a particularly stylish rider. I'm kind of glad I reconsidered (mostly because there already was a Klodifan). I chose a more neutral name because I feared that whichever rider I professed a particular interest in by my choice of a username, might at one point become discredited. I feel like as you might have felt when the Freiburg scandal broke. Except, for me it's not about any particular rider, it's about cycling in general.

Maybe I get into the spirit again. BroDeal wrote once an excellent post on the cycling news forum about how we all know what's going on, but in some schizophrenic way, we can still enjoy the actual racing. I'll try to dig it up. I haven't posted much the last 2 weeks neither here nor at cyclingnews. I read some of what is written over there, but they have now split the actual racing discussion section from the doping discussion section, which I think is a mistake. Anyway, maybe as you say, I might be back posting at one time. I'll go out for a spin now and watch the fireworks with my kids tonight.

Have a nice holiday weekend!

You have a great screename and avatar, Cobblestones.

I wasn't too disappointed with the accusations implicating Klodi. I've accepted that they all dope to some degree. I'm also an avid baseball fan and my favorite team, the Dodgers, also have their share of doping scandals. As a result, I've become a cynical fan. No sport is immune and all athletes suspect. I can almost accept that it is what it is, but when egregious arrogance is thrown in the mix, it becomes so off-putting that I can barely follow the sport... barely...

helmutRoole2 · #19 07-05.-2009

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Originally Posted by Klodifan

You have a great screename and avatar, Cobblestones.

I wasn't too disappointed with the accusations implicating Klodi. I've accepted that they all dope to some degree. I'm also an avid baseball fan and my favorite team, the Dodgers, also have their share of doping scandals. As a result, I've become a cynical fan. No sport is immune and all athletes suspect. I can almost accept that it is what it is, but when egregious arrogance is thrown in the mix, it becomes so off-putting that I can barely follow the sport... barely...

Okay,let me expound on my previous post. I think this will be the best Tour ever in terms of entertainment value. I find it hard to believe that Kloden will support another Tour winner if he feels he has a shot at the overall. I have to think that Armschlong wouldn't enter the race if he didn't think he could win, so it goes without saying, all syringes on are on the table. Cantadope is the best of the three but talent alone won't win the race. Lipohiniehole can't win with or without dope but I get the feeling he's not above manipulation by Armschlong (to be referred to as just Schlong for the sake of character conservation from this point on.)

I won't predict a winner, but I will predict a backroom deal wins it.

swampy1970 · #20 07-06.-2009

Personally, If any of you ***** were so against doping (especially blood doping and EPO) then you started watching the wrong sport. It's not like blood doping wasn't going great guns in the mid 80's (the US, Italians, Mosers hour record, East Germans and the Russians) and then EPO hit the lights during the late 80's.

Save your cries for, oh, 20 years ago....

Someone call the whaaammmmbulance.

I'm not saying it's right, far from it... but it's like y'all had your head up your asses until 1999.

thebluetrain · #21 07-06.-2009

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Originally Posted by swampy1970

I'm not saying it's right, far from it... but it's like y'all had your head up your asses until 1999.

Thats cause they all had their blinders on until someone they disliked started winning.
This race is going to come down to AC and LA (and possibly Kloden)with Leipheimer, Sastre, one of the Schlecks, and Evans picking up the scraps. Sastre is already over a minute down on LA. Evans doesnt have what it takes to win the mountains. Rogers and Kirchen are wishful thinking.
Kloden is a darkhorse and is hard to predict where he will end up. It all depends on if he is going to sacrifice himself for AC & LA or if he is going for the podium.
At the end I dont think LA has enough left to stay with AC in the mountains, but we'll see. Thats why they race.

Cobblestones · #22 07-06.-2009

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Originally Posted by helmutRoole2

Okay,let me expound on my previous post. I think this will be the best Tour ever in terms of entertainment value. I find it hard to believe that Kloden will support another Tour winner if he feels he has a shot at the overall. I have to think that Armschlong wouldn't enter the race if he didn't think he could win, so it goes without saying, all syringes on are on the table. Cantadope is the best of the three but talent alone won't win the race. Lipohiniehole can't win with or without dope but I get the feeling he's not above manipulation by Armschlong (to be referred to as just Schlong for the sake of character conservation from this point on.)

I won't predict a winner, but I will predict a backroom deal wins it.

I watched today's recap, just tuned in a few minutes before the split happened. I see now what you're saying and why you're excited. Was Schlong tipped off by Big G before the attack? Was Zubeldia reluctant to pull with Popo?

Anyway, brilliant riding by Columbia.

Green points classification:
Manx missile: 70,
Cokehead: 0

Even Wheelsucker has more points.

What are the sprinters going to do?

Ah and swampy bluetrain: please go away. You're clueless.

swampy1970 · #23 07-06.-2009

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Originally Posted by Cobblestones

I watched today's recap, just tuned in a few minutes before the split happened. I see now what you're saying and why you're excited. Was Schlong tipped off by Big G before the attack? Was Zubeldia reluctant to pull with Popo?

Anyway, brilliant riding by Columbia.

Green points classification:
Manx missile: 70,
Cokehead: 0

Even Wheelsucker has more points.

What are the sprinters going to do?

Ah and swampy bluetrain: please go away. You're clueless.

Schlong isn't as stupid as Contador, Evans, the Schlecks etc etc - he has a clue that when you're riding into a headwind and the course turns you're gonna get a crosswind and in a strong wind you're gonna get echelons.

Clueless... no. I just don't have a raging hard-on when it comes to hating like many on here. I know it goes on and I deal with it.

We could even go back to 1905 and say "well, somehow I can't get to excited about this Tour because last year about 25% of the field was disqualified for cheating..."

Maybe I should start a thread next year for the Giro "... ever since Merckx tested positive, I could never really get excited about it..." whaaa whaaa whaaaa....

... oh, I forgot, it'd only be taken seriously if the thread was slagging off Lance.

classic1 · #24 07-07.-2009

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Originally Posted by swampy1970

Schlong isn't as stupid as Contador, Evans, the Schlecks etc etc - he has a clue that when you're riding into a headwind and the course turns you're gonna get a crosswind and in a strong wind you're gonna get echelons.

Correct. Uniballer is smart, professional and a racer. Any GC contender that missed the move on stage 3 is a dumbarse. It's kiddie stuff. I had this **** hammered in to me when I was racing in the schoolboy categories. So-called professionals should know it is absolutely fundemental to get to the front when a cross wind is coming up. Rogers and all the Colombia boys got it, Cancellara got it, Geiderman got it, the Skil boys got it, and Armstrong got it. Good on them.

Riding in an echelon is becoming a lost art, as is the ability for pros to think for themselves IMO.

Grater · #25 07-07.-2009

Let's hope Armstrong finally tests positive!

Scotttri · #26 07-07.-2009

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Originally Posted by Cobblestones

Klodifan,

Nice of you to say that.

You know, when I made my avatar on this forum, I was considering something similar as 'Klodifan'. I always thought that Kloden was a particularly stylish rider. I'm kind of glad I reconsidered (mostly because there already was a Klodifan). I chose a more neutral name because I feared that whichever rider I professed a particular interest in by my choice of a username, might at one point become discredited. I feel like as you might have felt when the Freiburg scandal broke. Except, for me it's not about any particular rider, it's about cycling in general.

Maybe I get into the spirit again. BroDeal wrote once an excellent post on the cycling news forum about how we all know what's going on, but in some schizophrenic way, we can still enjoy the actual racing. I'll try to dig it up. I haven't posted much the last 2 weeks neither here nor at cyclingnews. I read some of what is written over there, but they have now split the actual racing discussion section from the doping discussion section, which I think is a mistake. Anyway, maybe as you say, I might be back posting at one time. I'll go out for a spin now and watch the fireworks with my kids tonight.

Have a nice holiday weekend!

Firstly Cobblestones and Klodifan need to get a room!!! Secondly I'm not saying that cycling is clean, just saying it isn't as bad as some people like to point out. And as far as this years tour goes I think it's easy to gat into it, you've got 3 past winners, uncertainty with in a team, it's easy to get into. So what if the whole peleton is on drugs like some posters would have us believe, then it's an even race.

randochap · #27 07-07.-2009

IMO, it doesn't get much more exciting than today's team TT. Glad to see it back in le Tour!

I don't hero worship him, nor let his celebrity eclipse the performances of all the other extraordinary riders, but, speaking as a 2X cancer survivor, I respect everything Armstrong is doing.

Cobblestones · #28 07-07.-2009

rando: I watched it today, and there was definitely drama. There's always drama with a TTT.

Anyway, look at the final result. Basically, you have Menchov, Evans, and probably Sastre out of contention. The last serious contender standing beside the Astana guys is the Schlecklet. And he's already down about 1:30 on Bertie before they've seen a single mountain. Quite a few posters think it's over. Who knows, maybe it is, maybe it isn't.

Helmut has the right of it. The excitement is within Astana. At least let's hope so.

And swampy, you're clueless, because you have no idea where I'm coming from.

Geoff Vadar · #29 07-08.-2009

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Originally Posted by Scotttri

Firstly Cobblestones and Klodifan need to get a room!!! Secondly I'm not saying that cycling is clean, just saying it isn't as bad as some people like to point out. And as far as this years tour goes I think it's easy to gat into it, you've got 3 past winners, uncertainty with in a team, it's easy to get into. So what if the whole peleton is on drugs like some posters would have us believe, then it's an even race.

Scott this post is retarded. Not even slightly, its a full blown spaz attack.

**limerickman** · #30 07-08.-2009

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Originally Posted by classic1

Correct. Uniballer

is smart, professional and a racer. Any GC contender that missed the move on stage 3 is a dumbarse. It's kiddie stuff. I had this **** hammered in to me when I was racing in the schoolboy categories. So-called professionals should know it is absolutely fundemental to get to the front when a cross wind is coming up. Rogers and all the Colombia boys got it, Cancellara got it, Geiderman got it, the Skil boys got it, and Armstrong got it. Good on them.

Riding in an echelon is becoming a lost art, as is the ability for pros to think for themselves IMO.

Yep.
Basic stuff which every single professional ought to know.

I blame the increased use of radios - these so called pros cannot think for themselves,

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