Very few doping positives during the Armstrong years. How come?

I find it interesting that from 1999-2005, the Tour de France had only a couple minor doping issues, and so far this year nothing to speak of. (Which sucks, as a positive test seems to make it more interesting). But look at the three years LA was out, and all doping hell broke loose.

Why is this? Most smart people know that Lance has always ridden clean, so maybe his presence influences the other riders to stay clean??

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Lance Armstrong’s Last Words, August 10, 2007 - “We're proud of our record. We won eight Tours, a Vuelta, a Giro and other races and not one positive test," Armstrong said. “I’m not sure if there are many other teams who can say that right now. Couple that with our ethical record, despite all the gossip and nonsense that goes on.”

That's an interesting question.. one I alluded to in a post earlier this week. It's almost like the issues started as if a switch had been flipped, then have mysteriously gone away.

I think one of the answers you'll hear is that supposedly LA had Ferrari tied up in an exclusive contract for much of that time.... hence he wasn't available to others. While he may very well have been tied up in contract, I don't think it had a large effect on other people doping...they want it they'll get it somewhere.


I disagree with you on one point. I don't think most "smart" people know that Lance rides/rode clean. I think most "smart" people look and the body of evidence and conclude that while he may not have been officially sanctioned, there is very good reason to believe or at least highly suspect that he did dope.

A piece of advice: NP is trolling in this subject matter - just ignore.

By the past Lance rode with Pantani, Virenque, Riis, the festina boys, the Puerto boys, Ullrich, Basso, Landis, Herras, Hamilton, .... all those guys were so clean...with their doping that UCI was not worried until extern entities came!

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6 +2 (according Ashenden) samples with EPO should have banned Lance Armstrong to start next TDF !

Tee hee! Replace smart with naive and it would be more accurate.

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Rebellion with no point or purpose is worse than conformity.

so in real life, you're like a crazy person, right?

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"Kick over the statues and the tyrants die. Wave bye bye to their heroes with a hammer."
--The Redskins, Kick Over the Statues

Classic.

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My wife influences me to stay clean. She says" you smell like s**t, go take a shower". I can hear Lance saying these words to the boys in the peloton. Truly inspirational!

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Dope,when training and talent just aren't enough.

You guys are the trolls. On every thread it's "Armstrong doped" "Armstrong doped." Even though he has never tested positive, it's "Armstrong doped." At least my comments are based on hundreds of negative tests. Yours are circumstantial.

Trolls=BadDeal, TheDumbLord, TonyCrackery, Putter, Poopidor, peehs, Slovakgirl, Lamerickman

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Lance Armstrong’s Last Words, August 10, 2007 - “We're proud of our record. We won eight Tours, a Vuelta, a Giro and other races and not one positive test," Armstrong said. “I’m not sure if there are many other teams who can say that right now. Couple that with our ethical record, despite all the gossip and nonsense that goes on.”

very good.

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.."But finally the last thing I’ll say to the people who don’t believe in cycling, the cynics and the sceptics. I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. [I]I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles. You should believe in these athletes, and you should believe in these people. I'll be a fan of the Tour de France for as long as I live. And there are no secrets - this is a hard sporting event and hard work wins it" - Armstrong 2005 TDF
morelike hypocrisy.

Are you speaking of hundreds negative tests passed by Marion Jones, Chambers, Kohl, Schumacher,...

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6 +2 (according Ashenden) samples with EPO should have banned Lance Armstrong to start next TDF !

NP, even your quote's a lie. Discounting the testing of the '99 samples, Armstrong has had teammates test positive nearly as soon as they left the comforting wings of the Armstrong money machine.

Also, there's that cortisone non-negative that a cool $500K helped to disappear.

But you're not here to discuss or to even think, you're here to put out the fire with gasoline.

at least no positives respects j huskey. didn't see fit to include him in the list. then again, he always was teacher's pet.

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"Kick over the statues and the tyrants die. Wave bye bye to their heroes with a hammer."
--The Redskins, Kick Over the Statues

"he always was teacher's pet".

This one has me confused.

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Dope,when training and talent just aren't enough.

"I think one of the answers you'll hear is that supposedly LA had Ferrari tied up in an exclusive contract for much of that time.... "

I really don't think LA had an exlusive contract with a doping doctor. That concept is so lame. If he broke the contract what would happen? Would LA take him to court for violating his exclusive dopping contract? This is another one of those mindless rumors started by some loser. If Ferrari was helping him dope and he very well could have, he was not just helping LA.