DiLuca positive for EPO (CERA) ?? - Page 4

Are you certain you're not one of his lawyers? he soes have a few hundred (very busy) lawyers after all. Lance is guilty, we all know it, except, seemingly, you.
1/ failed for corticosteroids and produced a presrcitpion written after drug test.
2/ failed for EPO. if EPO dissipates over time, doesnt this mean he was doing way way more than was found in the 2005 samples??
3/ admitted in hospital to Frankie Andreu and Stephanie McIlvainhe that he used Steroids, EPO and Human Growth Hormones during competitions (one of reasons cancer got so far before being detected)
5/ Asked his Irish nurse to dispose of syringes 40km away from his base.
4/ pulled out all the stops to get michele ferrari as his "doctor". Quote from ferarri: "If it doesn't show up in the drug controls, then it's not doping. EPO is not dangerous. It's also dangerous to drink ten liters of orange juice." Let me repeat, Lance Armstrong employed this man as his doctor.
5/ his treatment of Filippo Simeoni
5/ his treatment of the bravest man in Tour de France history, christophe Bassons.

You forgot sightings of the Loch Ness Monster and the UFO-made crop circles. Plenty more have claimed to have witnessed those, so they must be true as well.

It's circumstantial.

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Originally Posted by Flyer:
It is a matter of reading comprehension that you challenged by.

haha you're in trouble now. the loch ness monster argument comes out with people are stumped. feeble feeble response

A mention of butt cream and a few he saids/she saids isn't worthy of a serious response.

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Originally Posted by Flyer:
It is a matter of reading comprehension that you challenged by.

ferrari? bassons? simeoni? andreu?
you see im a serious fan. you probably dont know these names so go do some research and get back to me

LOL, I'm a little older than you and remember them all (and many who came well before them). I suppose we'll go hunt down whomever you didn't get along with over the years and take whatever they have to say about you as judgment.

I'm sorry, you're wasting my time. Bye.

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Originally Posted by Flyer:
It is a matter of reading comprehension that you challenged by.

oh please enlighten me with your opinion on ferrari before you leave us. you weren't shy about offering your opinion before he came up

I'm not leaving, I just choose to ignore circumstantial conspiracy theories, which are all you've contributed to this board thus far. But since you asked about Ferrari, I don't know him personally, but he's made contributions to the sport on one hand, and he's negatively impacted the sport on the other. But as you know, guilt by association doesn't hold water.

And there you have it. Enjoy!

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Originally Posted by Flyer:
It is a matter of reading comprehension that you challenged by.

i think you're about as convince with that argument as the rest of us. i suppose hitler did some good for the german economy, not that i think about it. what about bassons? why did armstrong ask the cleanest rider in the race to leave?

At the end of the day it doesn't matter. It has cost him not one thing. Nobody has ripped his awards away. Nobody has pursued him in court. The cycling authorities haven't bothered. Whatever the rights or wrongs are ultimately LA comes up as good as innocent whatever he may have done. Finally if the virulent anti dopers on this forum show anything resembling consistency in their arguments, given that for anyone to even be in the same ballpark as LA would have taken dope they were all doping so they're all as bad as one another.

Lest anyone decides to come back at me with all the usual so that makes it alright then. No it doesn't but get real. Its happening. They aren't catching them and when they do they don't do enough to put the others off doing it. To me the real disgrace is that the cycling authorities are essentially condoing dopimg by not beign really hard nosed and hard hitting with it.

Protocol stopped LA's samples beign retested. Either the guy cheated and committed an offence outwith the cycling regulations or he didn't. If he didn't fine but then stop persecuting the guy. If he did then throw the book at him.

How many of this witnesses have done testimonies in a trial?

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6 +2 (according Ashenden) samples with EPO should have banned Lance Armstrong to start next TDF !

Ha Ha ... Are you ... ha ha ...suggesting that ... ha ha LA never doped ... ha ha.

Well come on. On the one hand the LA is doping brigade use the argument that patchy performance is one of the signs so when you point out that LA hasn't had particularly patchy performance then the repsonse become childish.

Make up your minds.

Don't be so blinded by your rage and hatred that you also lose the plot.

LA probably doped. He has made lots of money and gained lots of publicity as has Mercx, Anquetil and most of the greats. He's just done it better than the rest. I don't hear the anti doping brigade castigating Mercx and co.Perhaps Contador will go one better.

You're not really sure what the word 'circumstantial' means, are you?

Let's not forget that that 1999 samples were re-tested anonymously, and it took an enterprising journalist to link the positive samples (not just Armstrong's) to the actual riders.

Really, there's no denying that Armstrong used EPO in 1999. Why would he stop using after that, and why would he stop riding in the same year that testing was finally catching up with doping (though doping once again surged ahead shortly after).

But, yeah, many of these riders are cheating. Armstrong's cheating bothers me the most because he's very, very wealthy due to the cheating. More to the point, his charade has sucked in millions of cancer sufferers, and it's impossible to separate his doping from his charity because he's explicitly linked the two. It's disgusting, really.