Is Armstrong paying people to spread his lies on forums?

[jimmypop]

Originally Posted by TheDangerMan

No i think it geniuely does backfire on Lemond that he is now demanding that Contador take his special Lemond tests as well. It's becoming a joke.

The testing regime this year has taken a very significant step forward. The idea that whoever is winning for the Tour should volenteer to take Lemond's own special tests, or be branded a cheat, is completely absurd.

Yes Lemond did a good job at helping to reveal the institutionalised doping of the 1990s, but the authorities have completely tranformed since then. A period of silence might be in order from Mr Lemond instead of smearing a rider who is fast becoming, if not already, an all time great.

There has to be a process - we can't have this man attacking nearly every single yellow jersy holder. He's living in the past.

red herrings and strawmen

[Grater]

Lance tried to hire me. He told me that he would throw in an Olsen twin. I told him to f*** off!

[chainstretched]

What's the going rate? I could do with some extra $$

[Grater]

Lance said he'd pay you a sum of US10000 and he'll throw an Olsen twin your way twice for two weekends! He also said that if you do a good job, he'll throw in all of Sheryl Crow's albums and his missing testicle!

[JAPANic]

I'm available.

---> Pay here!

[DV1976]

I dont know whether he pays people or not but what has been proven time and time again here is that there is an army of cheerleaders that will log with various nicknames and repeat the same things over and over again. What is really annoying, however, is when they distort or alter the facts to suit them. They do misinform, i dont know whether they do it on purpose or whether themeselves want to believe it, but they lie and lie repeatedly. And it is frustrating, because they cant be reasoned with, they ask for evidence and when they are given it, they dont even read it, so its only logical to assume that they are either retarded LA worshipers/stalkers or they have some interest in mudding the waters and not letting the truth come out.

[Andrija]

Have you noticed how No Positives is keeping itself out of this thread? The best example of bad PR agent is ignoring this thread, trying to maintain its: "I'm cycling fan, not some hired troll" credibility.

[lucybears]

Originally Posted by Grater

Lance said he'd pay you a sum of US10000 and he'll throw an Olsen twin your way twice for two weekends! He also said that if you do a good job, he'll throw in all of Sheryl Crow's albums and his missing testicle!

accept & do a bad job !

[Grater]

Originally Posted by lucybears

accept & do a bad job !

haha!

[azdroptop]

Originally Posted by jimmypop

Armstrong doesn't personally pay individuals to post on forums, but he certainly has some close associates who anonymously post on forums to counter the doping argument. He even has friends who post to defend other riders, lest one rider's doping be linked to Armstrong.

But, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that Stapleton is having people who are already on the payroll spread the "clean" drivel on forums.

Yep. And we didn't land on the moon either.

[slovakguy]

Originally Posted by Bro Deal

Armstrong's ex-wife was subpoenaed by Lemond's lawyers because she was present at a dinner party where Armstrong discussed a plan to damage Lemond's business interests and his reputation. She tried to quash the subpoena, but the judge refused.

interesting point, this one. as an ex-wife is she still covered by the constitutional immunity granted to husbands and wives in which they cannot be compelled to testify against each other? or would that be allowed because they were married at that time?

[jimmypop]

Originally Posted by azdroptop

Yep. And we didn't land on the moon either.

I just don't believe in miracles, I guess.

You're giving Armstrong too much credit. He's a bit of a thug, really.

[Bro Deal]

Originally Posted by slovakguy

interesting point, this one. as an ex-wife is she still covered by the constitutional immunity granted to husbands and wives in which they cannot be compelled to testify against each other? or would that be allowed because they were married at that time?

There were other people present, so it was not a private conversation.

[Eldron]

Originally Posted by poulidor

On this forum and, even on afrench forum, there is people posting clearly messages of Lance propaganda denying evidences already known and verified.
Their messages are enough different of the true Lance's fans to be detected. We have a lot of experiences of fanboys that we can smell them form very far.

Am I wrong?

We all have our favourites...

Poulidor thinks all french riders are clean. French fanboy!
Zander thinks Sastre is clean. Sastre fanboy!
Jimmypop thinks nobody is clean. Nodoby fanboy!
I think Kloden is cleanish. Sort of. Kloden fanboy!
Some people think Armstrong is/was clean. Armstrong fanboys!
Likewise Lemond. Ok - he's just a ****.
Hell - some people even think the Badger was clean - although he admitted he wasn't. Animal fanboy!

Everybody is somebody's ***** Poulidor...

Edit: stupid ***** - the first one is D!ck and the second one is B1tch. Man I gotta learn to use "code"...

[Grater]

Everyone cheats in this sport. You can't do this sport without drugs. You can, if you were on a level playing field. 90 - 99% of the peloton dope!

I'm huge Columbia - as people know, but I am not stupid. I know what goes on in amongst that team like every other team. Most ride juiced up, some don't. It's near impossible working out who is clean or dirty.

Milram are a team for example that could be predominantly clean. Ever since Gerds and Ciolek left Columbia, they havn't produced results like they were at Columbia. That's some sort of indication.

I think you will find, most, if not all the top 10 in this years Tour de France were juiced!

You then draw the parallels. The Giro for example. Di Luca came second and he was on Cera. Menchov beat him and ever since Vienna was shut down, Menchov and his crew havn't produced results since that time. Yes, some riders were implicated there, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work out what's really going on.

From that conclusion, most, if not all the Top 10 in the Giro were juiced up!

It's hard saying who is clean because most are doing something!