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Agreed, I enjoyed his performance this year.

If this result is for a test in June, I expect more Tour de France riders will be fingered before Autumn.
I think you're right, MF.

Yeah, I think there might be some further changes to 2009 Tour de France GC when all the dope test results are collated.
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I've defended Contador but I'm starting to be a little more suspicious of him. One of the main reasons Lance came back to the sport, in my view, was that he thought that the doping controls were so tight he could still win in a fair fight. So his remarks about Contador producing numbers that he never did, on the Swiss climb, after that stage, seem a rather coded attack. I think Armstrong may have a point.
The irony is so strong it just came through the internet and hit me in the face like a brick.
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Agreed, I enjoyed his performance this year.

If this result is for a test in June, I expect more Tour de France riders will be fingered before Autumn.
I'd rather see the podium girls fingered before autumn but that's just me...
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I've defended Contador but I'm starting to be a little more suspicious of him. One of the main reasons Lance came back to the sport, in my view, was that he thought that the doping controls were so tight he could still win in a fair fight. So his remarks about Contador producing numbers that he never did, on the Swiss climb, after that stage, seem a rather coded attack. I think Armstrong may have a point.
After Festina we were hopping that riders will leave EPO... and then Lance arrived in 1999 full of EPO , confirmed in 2005. We felt very disappointed.
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After Festina we were hopping that riders will leave EPO... and then Lance arrived in 1999 full of EPO , confirmed in 2005. We felt very disappointed.
So all the other guys who won races, such as the Tour, who blood doped and took EPO during the 90's didn't disappoint you?
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We can be sorry for Casar who deserved an other stage win.
Quite right - it's getting to the point where sprinting for 2nd or 3rd is really important juuuuuust in case you pick up the stage win on the post Tour de France busting...

A sad truth.
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Quite right - it's getting to the point where sprinting for 2nd or 3rd is really important juuuuuust in case you pick up the stage win on the post Tour de France busting...

A sad truth.
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So all the other guys who won races, such as the Tour, who blood doped and took EPO during the 90's didn't disappoint you?
Irrelevant.
As to your question: a) they were all doping like crazy (whereas in 99 people were hoping for a fresh start b) they were not portraying themselves as cancer survivors, miracle workers, whiter than white saviors of cycling...
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Irrelevant.
As to your question: a) they were all doping like crazy (whereas in 99 people were hoping for a fresh start b) they were not portraying themselves as cancer survivors, miracle workers, whiter than white saviors of cycling...
Agreed - the Festina Affair in '98 was the last straw that broke the donkeys back. We knew there was doping before (how could we not?) but the discovery that a professional team had a systematic program was pretty horrifying & indicated that things had got wildly out of control. The Peleton was given a clean slate in '99 but threw it back in our faces.
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