Mendrisio elite road race - Page 7

Another bronze medal for spoc

Not only are you a monger, you have reading comprehension problems. If you could actually read properly you would have seen that I wrote that they should not have bet on Rodruguez. It's a simple concept, backed up by the end result of the race, not some retarded line of 'logic'. I don't need to write eighteen pages of rubbish, waffle and nonsense to express a point of view or sustain my position. Anyone who watched the race and could comprehend what was going on could see Rodriguez was never going to win.

Go ahead and continue to argue from an unsustainable position though. I'm sure you will.

It's cuter than a rainbow jersey. Unfortunately we'll have to wait for its horn to grow (reminds me of my prepubescent years) before we can make powder out of it.

No no no,
I know as someone who races, a lot, that letting it go was not a good idea at that instant. Throw hindsight out the window, I am sitting on canc's whheel, my guy (who is the sacrificial lamb) has just been up the road with 2 others, he is the weakest of those two.

Canc has spent some energy bringing them back, good. Now all I have to do is roll over and grab the wheel and we can try and hold it together for a sprint or get me or valverde away with canc the strong man and sit on him then roll him.

NOT send the bloke who has been in the break ALL DAY away again.

clear this time?

That is called a fault.
A mistake
Not flawless
Hence bronze medal.
clicked yet?

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Sprogc - I bet your amps go to 11.

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My cassette goes to 11...

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OH, MY F!CKING GOD!! LMAO!!! ok, i gave you WAY too much credit... obviously!

So let me see if i have this right, LMAO again... sorry.. almost fell off my chair reading your idiotic post... lol.. so you think that the collective wisdom of Sammy Sanchez, Alejandro Valverde and Rodriguez, and their DS allowed Rodriguez to go in the break because they thought he had some kind of chance of taking the gold? we're talking about guys that have, under their belts, a grand tour win and podiums, olympic champ, numerous classics wins etc, etc, etc couldn't figure that out that, it might be a bad idea, but a moron like you could? is that what you are saying?? can anyone, really be that frigg'n stupid to come to that idiotic conclusion? honestly... you think that?? you think that they couldn't figure out that maybe it's not a good idea to bet the bank on a guy that had been in a break for 100km.. please tell me you don't think that.. because that would make you so stupid.. i can't even describe how stupid that would make you... LOL...

here's a clue... that break was not supposed to succeed... the weakest man on the team was allowed in the break to draw out the competition, so that they would have to do some work and would make AVs and SS's chances of success better... that break was meant to be brought back by the competition and then SS and AV were going to either go on the attack or be in a better position for the sprint... do you know anything about cycling tactics at all?? that break could have been nullified easy had someone just had the good sense to jump around sanchez when the gap was just a few meters..

ok, i think i'm done responding to you.. no offence or anything, but i can't waste my time any longer having a conversation like this, with someone who obviously has some serious mental deficiencies... it's not fair first of all and second of all, it's the kind of the debating equivalent of beating your head up against a brick wall... kind of painful..

wow.. unreal...

i have been racing for over 20 years myself... i have done this exact thing for my team mates on numerous occasion and it's worked perfectly. if i'm feeling, not up to it and my team mates are.. i go on a flyer early.. force others to chase earlier than they want to... as soon as i get brought back BOOM, they go... you don't send the strong guy out first to fight against the competition in their freshest state.. you work them over a bit first, and you do that with the weakest rider first and strongest rider last. that way the strongest guy has the best chance of succeeding since he will go against diminished competition....

c'mon guys, this is the kind of thing you learn as a 16 year old cadet.. this is not overly complex stuff we're talking about here..

Wow unreal indeed. I'm not laughing at you. I feel sorry for you.

What fcuking part of your brain is stopping you from understanding that letting Rodriguez get away with anyone was a monumentally stupid move? Once the gap went nobody was going to chase and drag Sanchez or Valverde across, and Rodriguez was shot. And WTF was Rodriguez doing turns for just before the climb instead of just rollng up to second wheel and propping? Fcuk me you are dumb. The Spanish team botched it big time, the Spanish tactics were flawed in the extreme. Maybe you could apply for the position of Spanish monger/manager?

I'm done with this thread. My head hurts from trying to explain simple concepts to argumentative fools.

Which they did - witness Cunego and Gilbert
Except - boom - they didn't go. They sat on. Race over.

If it was dumb to let Kolobnev and Evans go - and it was - even by your own reasoning it was monumentally stupid not to attack when Cunego and Gilbert went and then Cancellara towed them back up to that pair.

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read what runitout posted above.

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No, he's talking at you but you're too busy doing one handed clapping...

Tom Boonen reads Dr Spocs post... The expression says it all.

look at 8:43 of this video (below).. cancellara fills the gap to Evans, Kolobnev and Rodriguez and then it's actually cancellara himself that immediately lets go of the wheel, allowing the gap that he just finished filling to form again.. all cancellara had to do was to hold the wheel.. he's in the draft.. just frig'n sit there.. this is where the race was lost.


and no counter attack because..
a) this was not the opportune time to attack (on the flat).. the place for a decisive attack was near the top of the climb... either that or just wait it out for the bunch sprint..
b) Evans and Kolobnev were going full speed.. you don't attack until he or they slow down.. never happened.. cancellara didn't stay on the wheel long enough for then to even notice they were caught and have time to give up and slow down... when you race do you attack guys who are going full out? that's stupid!
c) they were not going to compromise rodriguez's chances for a medal after they day he had put in up the that point.. that was very plain from Sanchez's interview.. if they were going to get towed up fine.. but they were not going to do it..

even if you can get away cleanly bridging that gap, you still entice others to follow and if you make it, then others know it is possible to fill the gap.. the only reason that i personally will cross a gap like that is if i'm pretty sure the team mate is in over his head and will likely get dropped or i have to REALLY, REALLY sure that others aren't or can't follow.. don't think that was the case here. the others couldn't close down the gap themselves, but they could follow. and you can leave valverde out of the equation, he had nothing.. you can tell by his actions/inaction and sanchez said he heard that valv was not on good legs from valv himself on the road so they were not going to get any work out of him..

i still say that cancellara rode a terrible race and is the reason for things not ending up as they should or could have... for himself and for the spanish..

Oh mate seriously just shut the fcuk up. You are mind numbing. Relax. We all get things wrong a bit. Even me. Its bloody rare though!

Anyway for any would be course designers out there take note. IMO the course was a ball tearer and should get some credit for enabling good racing. It presented just enough opportunities for everyone without unduly favouring any specialist types.

I liked it anyway!

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