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tomk2003@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote in message news:<e3pscc.p3c.ln@bud.garden.local>...
> In article
> <6ee79d82.0407111627.7cba638e@posting.google.com>,
> jcq9000@yahoo.com (Jonathan Quist) writes:
>
> > Gawd, is Reveen still on the circuit?
>
> I don't think so. Here's some blast-from-the-past pix of
> him (commercial site): http://walker-
> entertainment.20megsfree.com/photo.html
>
> And here's Ricky, et al:
> http://www.showcase.ca/trailerparkboys/about/
>

> > driving and see someone riding on it. Sort of a
> > counterpoint the the "GET OFF THE STREET!" that some
> > morons yell...
>
> Truth be told, I hate yelling. It just seems like too much
> effort for so little gain. And it puts a hurt on my ears.
>
>
> cheers, Tom

Well, I'm pretty "confrontationally inhibited" so I wouldn't
actually yell at someone like that, but the impulse is
there. And it wouldn't do any good anyway. The point is a
bit to counter-intuitive to get across that way...

Badger_South <Badger@South.net> wrote in message news:<0vs3f0hhu9se399ocvasl17cjeip39ps1o@4ax.com>...
> On 11 Jul 2004 17:27:15 -0700, jcq9000@yahoo.com (Jonathan
> Quist) wrote:
>

> >driving and see someone riding on it. Sort of a
> >counterpoint the the "GET OFF THE STREET!" that some
> >morons yell...
> >
> >Jonathan
>
> Don't hollar at me, we have double wide sidewalks here
> with bike path signs and easy ramps and divider lines
> painted on 'em.
>
> -B

I wouldn't! (See previous post)

Interesting design idea. Is it very effective at providing
any separation between the walkers and cyclists?

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 01:08:49 -0400, Luigi de Guzman
<luigi12081@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 22:14:49 -0400, Badger_South
><Badger@South.net> wrote:
>
>>On 11 Jul 2004 17:27:15 -0700, jcq9000@yahoo.com (Jonathan
>>Quist) wrote:
>>

>>>driving and see someone riding on it. Sort of a
>>>counterpoint the the "GET OFF THE STREET!" that some
>>>morons yell...
>>>
>>>Jonathan
>>
>>Don't hollar at me, we have double wide sidewalks here
>>with bike path signs and easy ramps and divider lines
>>painted on 'em.
>>
>
>Where are you? I seem to remember you're in
>Charlottesville, Va?
>
>Man it's been a while since I've been to Cville, obviously
>(if I remember right)
>
>I remember there were bike lanes painted on the *road* on
>JPA and JPA extension (I think? My directions are always
>muddled when I go visit my friends there). Any rate its'
>down by the hospital & behind Cabell Hall. But doublewide
>sidewalks??
>
>I don't know how I feel about the whole bicycle segregation
>thing. Separate but equal often isn't in America....and I
>like riding on the road too much to give the yahoos any
>reason to shout me off the road.
>
>-Luigi
>
>>-B

Naw, Hookville is not that great for road riding, I'm on
vacation in Va Bch. with "137 miles of bike trails, or extra
wide highway sections, or double wide sidewalks". You can
get a cool map detailing all the routes, which are in
segments across the city. We have a bunch where my brother
lives, and a nice, if windy 20 mile route that incorporates
these features. you can get a brochure at the Seashore park
ranger station showing them all if supplies last.

The morons in Cville just took the streets (with on street
parking) and striped a 1/2 width bike lane cutting the width
for cars but not providing enough (really) for the bikes.
The city busses cut into them and trophy wives on cell
phones weave into them - it's quite dangerous in places. IOW
the roads are not built for bike trails - they just striped
existing roads, but cut back the standard bike lane width.
(Duh). Go figure.

Used to be a good place to bike when I was doing it back in
school (Uva - CLAS-'72), but now too many cars and SUVs.
Even the back country roads which used to be nice are too
dangerous, IMO, b/c nuts in sports cars and tourists just
fly down the center and around corners and aren't looking.
It's nerve wracking to drive 'em, let alone bike in many of
the places I used to ride in the 60s and 70s.

The nice places in Va Bch have super double wide road lanes
in a few places that are just sweet. I like those the best.
That's why I'm here, visiting, plus riding during the Tour de France.
It's all good! ;-D

-B

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 23:01:18 -0700, Bernie <bmcilvan@mouse-potato.com>
wrote:

>Hold your line Luigi! It's only your own human will that
>maintains your place on the road. Not laws or rules or good
>manners. Be assertive and be safe!

This is true. The funny thing about cycling properly is
that the cars are more scared of the cyclist than the
cyclist is of the cars-- I often find myself having to hand-
signal a lot to indicate what I would normally expect a
motorist to do (pass safely, for instance, or take the
right of way where I have been obliged by law to yield it).
It's kind of amusing.

>Very best regards, Bernie
>PS: I am on a Fuji, not a Jamis, but I did use your input.

Y'know, I had been looking at the Fuji back in the day, too.
How's it working out for you?

It's all about the touring bikes. Even if I don't really
ever tour on mine. ever.

-Luigi

On 12 Jul 2004 00:40:12 -0700, jcq9000@yahoo.com (Jonathan Quist)
wrote:

>Badger_South <Badger@South.net> wrote in message
>news:<0vs3f0hhu9se399ocvasl17cjeip39ps1o@4ax.com>...
>> On 11 Jul 2004 17:27:15 -0700, jcq9000@yahoo.com
>> (Jonathan Quist) wrote:
>>

>> >driving and see someone riding on it. Sort of a
>> >counterpoint the the "GET OFF THE STREET!" that some
>> >morons yell...
>> >
>> >Jonathan
>>
>> Don't hollar at me, we have double wide sidewalks here
>> with bike path signs and easy ramps and divider lines
>> painted on 'em.
>>
>> -B
>
>I wouldn't! (See previous post)
>
>Interesting design idea. Is it very effective at providing
>any separation between the walkers and cyclists?

Like you I prefer the gracious sharing and integration of
the roads 'concept', but I like the super double wide roads
that are in some places - they're not striped , but marked
as a bike rout and the cars have one lane each way, but it's
so wide that they're no conflict or over-lap whatsoever.

The peds and mommys with triple-wide baby carriages like to
share the double wide sidewalks, and there's usually plenty
of space, but the bikers can typically zip down a driveway
ramp into the streets if it's clear and avoid 'em, and then
go back up at the next driveway. Little conflict b/c of
that. Except for rush hour, it's quiet residential mostly,
although the delivery boxes lke to try and ride over you on
Sat mornngs! ;-D

The best part is long straight, scenic and flat (some
inclines and dips, enough for variation). Think spin and
grin... ;-)

-B

In article <6ee79d82.0407112337.a4e8e76@posting.google.com>,
jcq9000@yahoo.com (Jonathan Quist) writes:

>> Truth be told, I hate yelling. It just seems like too
>> much effort for so little gain. And it puts a hurt on
>> my ears.

...

> Well, I'm pretty "confrontationally inhibited" so I
> wouldn't actually yell at someone like that, but the
> impulse is there. And it wouldn't do any good anyway.
> The point is a bit to counter-intuitive to get across
> that way...

Sometimes I consider rigging up an electronic "horn", as a
home hobbyist sort of project. Some of these newfangled
little speakers can be pretty loud. It shouldn't be too much
of a stretch to add megaphone functionality. Maybe even build-
in some pre-recorded messages, while the horn could play pre-
recorded samples.

cheers, Tom

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In article <1pd5f0d66asl8bo6ghifscn8oa7am6ooo5@4ax.com>,
Luigi de Guzman <luigi12081@cox.net> writes:

>>Sometimes I consider rigging up an electronic "horn", as a
>>home hobbyist sort of project. Some of these newfangled
>>little speakers can be pretty loud. It shouldn't be too
>>much of a stretch to add megaphone functionality. Maybe
>>even build-in some pre-recorded messages, while the horn
>>could play pre-recorded samples.
>
>
> Air Zound?

But that's ready-made, not an home electronics
hobbyist project.

And you can't really use an Air Zound to yell at
people with ;-)

cheers, Tom

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On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:19:52 -0700, tomk2003@hotmail.com (Tom Keats)
wrote:

> In article
> <6ee79d82.0407112337.a4e8e76@posting.google.com>,
> jcq9000@yahoo.com (Jonathan Quist) writes:
>
>>> Truth be told, I hate yelling. It just seems like too
>>> much effort for so little gain. And it puts a hurt on
>>> my ears.
>
>...
>
>> Well, I'm pretty "confrontationally inhibited" so I
>> wouldn't actually yell at someone like that, but the
>> impulse is there. And it wouldn't do any good anyway.
>> The point is a bit to counter-intuitive to get across
>> that way...
>
>Sometimes I consider rigging up an electronic "horn", as a
>home hobbyist sort of project. Some of these newfangled
>little speakers can be pretty loud. It shouldn't be too
>much of a stretch to add megaphone functionality. Maybe
>even build-in some pre-recorded messages, while the horn
>could play pre-recorded samples.

Air Zound?

-Luigi

Luigi de Guzman wrote:
>
> Bernie <bmcilvan@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>
> >Hold your line Luigi! It's only your own human will that
> >maintains your place on the road. Not laws or rules or
> >good manners. Be assertive and be safe!

If I hear a big truck coming up fast behind me I pull as far
to the right as I can. The bow-wave of some of those suckers
can knock a car off the jack, I sure don't want to see what
one could do to me.

> This is true. The funny thing about cycling properly is
> that the cars are more scared of the cyclist than the
> cyclist is of the cars-- I often find myself having to hand-
> signal a lot to indicate what I would normally expect a
> motorist to do (pass safely, for instance, or take the
> right of way where I have been obliged by law to yield
> it). It's kind of amusing.

I put their general panic at the sight of a bicyle down
to stupidity. Remember, half the people you see are
below average.

> >Very best regards, Bernie
> >PS: I am on a Fuji, not a Jamis, but I did use your
> > input.
>
> Y'know, I had been looking at the Fuji back in the day,
> too. How's it working out for you?

My husband has a Fuji MTB which he actually has to pedal
downhill or it will stop. The wheels turn freely when you
spin them, the brakes aren't dragging, and he keeps 65
pounds of air in his admittedly knobby tires. He rides it on
the street, it's probably way worse in actual dirt. Is a
puzzlement.

--
Cheers, Bev
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Jan Plugge

tomk2003@hotmail.com (Tom Keats) wrote in
news:8qfucc.he2.ln@bud.garden.local:

> In article <1pd5f0d66asl8bo6ghifscn8oa7am6ooo5@4ax.com>,
> Luigi de Guzman <luigi12081@cox.net> writes:
>
>>>Sometimes I consider rigging up an electronic "horn", as
>>>a home hobbyist sort of project. Some of these newfangled
>>>little speakers can be pretty loud. It shouldn't be too
>>>much of a stretch to add megaphone functionality. Maybe
>>>even build-in some pre-recorded messages, while the horn
>>>could play pre-recorded samples.
>>
>>
>> Air Zound?
>
> But that's ready-made, not an home electronics hobbyist
> project.
>
> And you can't really use an Air Zound to yell at people
> with ;-)

Get one of these, strap it to your rear rack, add a boom mic
on your helmet, and crank the volume to "11":

http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--PIG7200

But that still probably won't penetrate the acoustic
isolation of a soccer mom talking on a cell phone in a big
SUV. What you need is some way to do a blanket jamming
broadcast on all the local cell phone frequencies.

--
Mike Barrs

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:37:04 -0000, foldedpath
<mbarrs@NOSPAM.nightviewer.com> wrote:

>Get one of these, strap it to your rear rack, add a boom
>mic on your helmet, and crank the volume to "11":
>
>http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--PIG7200
>
>But that still probably won't penetrate the acoustic
>isolation of a soccer mom talking on a cell phone in a big
>SUV. What you need is some way to do a blanket jamming
>broadcast on all the local cell phone frequencies.
>
>--
>Mike Barrs

Echo on

"HEY Hey hey YOU You you..."

" IN In in THE The the..."

"SUV-Vee-vee."

"YEAH Yeah yeah..."

"YOU U U!"

-B

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 17:37:04 -0000, foldedpath
<mbarrs@NOSPAM.nightviewer.com> wrote:

>But that still probably won't penetrate the acoustic
>isolation of a soccer mom talking on a cell phone in a big
>SUV. What you need is some way to do a blanket jamming
>broadcast on all the local cell phone frequencies.

What you need is a rocket-propelled grenade.

-Luigi