Shoe/Cleat/Axle Pedal Question

I'm planning on buying regular roadie pedals for my road bike (I've been using Shimano mtb pedals).
My question is this: which road pedals/cleats bring the bottom of the foot closest to the axle? From
what I've seen of Look-type pedals, the cleat seems to raise the bottom of the sole almost a cm
above the axle. This would make me change my seat height and swap out my stem (and possibly cables)
to retain my current position, which I'd like to avoid. Thanks!

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supabonbon wrote:
> I'm planning on buying regular roadie pedals for my road bike (I've been using Shimano mtb
> pedals). My question is this: which road pedals/cleats bring the bottom of the foot closest to the
> axle? From what I've seen of Look-type pedals, the cleat seems to raise the bottom of the sole
> almost a cm above the axle. This would make me change my seat height and swap out my stem (and
> possibly cables) to retain my current position, which I'd like to avoid.

For Looks, you would not need to change cables, maybe not even stem if there's room for a 2mm
spacer. Yes, the stack height is quite high but feet are not right on axle with SPDs either so the
difference may be less than you fear.

I understand Speedplay pedals place feet very near axle, and SPD-R nearer than Look.

~PB

"Pete Biggs" <pLime{remove_fruit}@biggs.tc> wrote in message
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> supabonbon wrote:
> > I'm planning on buying regular roadie pedals for my road bike (I've been using Shimano mtb
> > pedals). My question is this: which road pedals/cleats bring the bottom of the foot closest to
> > the axle? From what I've seen of Look-type pedals, the cleat seems to raise the bottom of the
> > sole almost a cm above the axle. This would make me change my seat height and swap out my stem
> > (and possibly cables) to retain my current position, which I'd like to avoid.
>
> For Looks, you would not need to change cables, maybe not even stem if there's room for a 2mm
> spacer. Yes, the stack height is quite high but feet are not right on axle with SPDs either so the
> difference may be less than you fear.
>
> I understand Speedplay pedals place feet very near axle, and SPD-R nearer than Look. ~PB

Thanks PB. How are Speedplays for 'foot burn'? It's the main reason* why I'm getting away from SPDs.
(FYI: I'm using them with Sidi Dominators, and I'll probably pick up a pair of Genius.) And what is
it with SPD-Rs that riders seem to dislike? I guess another part of my question regards adaptors.
I'd imagine that if I bought a pair of Shimano shoes with Shimano pedals, I'd avoid an adaptor and
thereby bring my foot closer to the axle. So, the pedal I chose would influence the choice of shoe,
and vice versa. Also: I'm about maxxed out on my steerer. It's steel, though, so I'd trust it
enought to get a 2mm in there. But if I'm raising my feet a cm, that 2mm wouldn't be helping much.

/s

* That, and, of course, the 'Will To Upgrade'.