The most comfortable seat I've had was...? (For roadies)

Hello;

I'm pretty sick of spending nearly $100 for a saddle, only to have my butt feel like it was beat
with a meat-tenderizer when I'm done riding! My current saddle is a Selle Italia Flite Ti (non-Gel)
and I hate it (although it looks cool I, like many of you, don't have a ton of body fat so I
don't have much "natural cushion" which makes this decision pretty important (I'm 6'1" and weigh 165
lbs.) My typical ride (on my Trek 5200) is about 35 miles long, yet every time I ride, I come back
with a really sore rear!

Anyway, what are some saddles that you roadies are having good luck with? I'm considering try this
Aireon SL Suspension saddle from SuperGo: http://www.supergo.com/static/item_21113.asp

For $30, I figure it's worth it and the rubber dampers look promising!

I'm a guy, so don't suggest any women's saddles

Thanks, Todd "Sore Butt" Taylor

"Todd M. Taylor" <flygtiguy@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5F7Ia.31137
> Hello;
>
> I'm pretty sick of spending nearly $100 for a saddle, only to have my butt feel like it was beat
> with a meat-tenderizer when I'm done riding! My current saddle is a Selle Italia Flite Ti
> (non-Gel) and I hate it
(although
> it looks cool I, like many of you, don't have a ton of body fat so I don't have much "natural
> cushion" which makes this decision pretty
important

The "natural cushion" is a bad thing when it comes to saddles. You are supposed to be sitting on
your sit bones (ischial tuberosities), not soft tissue. If your saddle doesn't match your sit bones
well, then you are likely compressing soft tissue, leading to pain in your ****.

Saddles are something that has to fit right to be comfortable. My favorites right now are an old
Serfas and a no-name saddle that I found in the LBS seat bin for $10. The trick to finding the right
saddle is to just keep trying different ones until you get it right. It helps if you can get a few
friends involved. Each buy one saddle, then trade them around until each of you find the one that
works best for you.

Good luck, Buck

Most comfortable seats I've had were on Lufthansa.

My most comfortable saddle is an Ideale 90 like this.
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Fra...le_alloy90.htm
--
zk

"Todd M. Taylor" <flygtiguy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5F7Ia.31137$fe.590679@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Hello;
>
> I'm pretty sick of spending nearly $100 for a saddle, only to have my
butt
> feel like it was beat with a meat-tenderizer when I'm done riding! My current saddle is a Selle
> Italia Flite Ti (non-Gel)

That is by far my most comfortable saddle. You might want to stay away from the Fizik Pave since I
also find that to be comfortable. For me hard and flat make a saddle comfortable. That way my sit
bones are the only thing in contact with the saddle. They do get sore if I am riding for the first
few times in a while, but it doesn't take long for them to build up a toughness. When I use a soft
saddle I can never get used to the numbness and soreness.

and I hate it (although
> it looks cool I, like many of you, don't have a ton of body fat so I don't have much "natural
> cushion" which makes this decision pretty
important
> (I'm 6'1" and weigh 165 lbs.) My typical ride (on my Trek 5200) is about
35
> miles long, yet every time I ride, I come back with a really sore rear!
>
> Anyway, what are some saddles that you roadies are having good luck with? I'm considering try this
> Aireon SL Suspension saddle from SuperGo: http://www.supergo.com/static/item_21113.asp
>
> For $30, I figure it's worth it and the rubber dampers look promising!
>
> I'm a guy, so don't suggest any women's saddles
>
> Thanks, Todd "Sore Butt" Taylor

> My most comfortable saddle is an Ideale 90 like this.
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Fra...le_alloy90.htm
> --
> zk

Same saddle I have on my rain bike. Surprisingly comfortable, even with the sag that it's
acquired across the middle (due to mistreatment; it is a rain bike, after all!). Can't even guess
how far back that saddle & I go. My first choice today is my Flite Trans Am, but back in the day,
that Ideale 90IR was one heck of a lot more comfortable than the Cinelli Unicanitors that were
popular then!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

Thu, 19 Jun 2003 06:44:29 GMT, <hZcIa.384$%d4.67079362@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, "Mike
Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Fra...le_alloy90.htm

>
>Same saddle I have on my rain bike. Surprisingly comfortable, even with the sag that it's acquired
>across the middle (due to mistreatment; it is a rain bike, after all!).

>Can't even guess how far back that saddle & I go.

I believe it was my first experience of blind bike lust.

It was 1971 and I was working in a bicycle shop. Europe couldn't keep up with the demand. Bikes and
parts were scarce. Another shop up the street was able to get six Ideale 90 Rebour signature models.
I wasn't high enough in the pecking order of mechanics and racers to get one. I rationalised that my
garden variety model 90 would just be getting broken-in while their pre-softened ones were starting
to wear out but I sure wanted one.

I was building up my semi-pro Mercier by changing a few parts to Campagnolo. I had the pedals
swapped and was praying the next shipment from Italy would have a seat post my size when the bike
was stolen. One of the last remaining pro frames in the city was a Mercian, in my size and a
gawdawful metallic orchid colour. I needed a bike so I bought it and started scrounging parts.

I used Campy everywhere, some new, some second hand. I went to buy another Ideale 90 but they were
all gone. Believing that the French know more about comfort than the British I didn't want to settle
for a Brooks Pro.

Through the grapevine I heard one of the local hot shots had finally gotten his Bob Jackson but
couldn't locate a Campy seat post for it. As it happened, he had one of those six saddles I coveted.
My seat post fit his frame but, of course,it wouldn't fit the saddle. We traded. To him it was more
important to have a reliable seat post.

I rode that bike hard for about three years before the clamp broke and about two years with jury
rigged clamps until I gave-up and switched to Italian plastic. That bike was stolen.

When I built up my next bikes I couldn't get to get a new clamp or Zeus seat post so the Ideale sat
unused from about 1977 until July 2000.

That's when I fitted it with a steel clamp off a saddle that had molded plastic rails and stuck it
on my tourer.

It's in excellent shape for a saddle thirty two years old.
--
zk

On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 00:41:37 GMT, "Todd M. Taylor" <flygtiguy@hotmail.com> wrote:

> My current saddle is a Selle Italia Flite Ti

Which is the most comfortable saddle I've ever owned. <G>

Moral of the story: Saddles are different, asses are different. Buy your saddles where you can
return them if they don't work out after a ride or two. Only you can tell us what saddle will work
best for you, not the other way around.

You are wearing good cycling shorts?

Barry

"Todd M. Taylor" <flygtiguy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5F7Ia.31137$fe.590679@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> Hello;
>
> I'm pretty sick of spending nearly $100 for a saddle, only to have my butt feel like it was beat
> with a meat-tenderizer when I'm done riding! My current saddle is a Selle Italia Flite Ti
> (non-Gel) and I hate it
(although
> it looks cool I, like many of you, don't have a ton of body fat so I don't have much "natural
> cushion" which makes this decision pretty
important
> (I'm 6'1" and weigh 165 lbs.) My typical ride (on my Trek 5200) is about
35
> miles long, yet every time I ride, I come back with a really sore rear!
>
> Anyway, what are some saddles that you roadies are having good luck with? I'm considering try this
> Aireon SL Suspension saddle from SuperGo: http://www.supergo.com/static/item_21113.asp
>
> For $30, I figure it's worth it and the rubber dampers look promising!
>
> I'm a guy, so don't suggest any women's saddles
>
> Thanks, Todd "Sore Butt" Taylor
>
>
I solved my problem with the Max Flite Gel because it has somewhat of a suspendion built into the
back of it. It may not work for you, though.

Fred

"Zoot Katz" <zootkatz@operamail.com> wrote in message .look.ca...
> .
>
> My most comfortable saddle is an Ideale 90 like this.
> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Fra...le_alloy90.htm

Zoot, I've long ago learned never to click on any of your lame links. What is a Ideale, another of
your beloved hunks of cowhide?

Anyway, this is what elite roadies like me are riding this year:

http://www.selleitalia.com/products/....php3?itemid=6

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:19:02 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <chipomarc@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Zoot, I've long ago learned never to click on any of your lame links. What is a Ideale, another of
>your beloved hunks of cowhide?
>
>Anyway, this is what elite roadies like me are riding this year:

So is the 'obnoxious racer' a role that you play or are you really like that?

Jasper

In article <r0p8fvs4h78p093b83fb545ice5sovvnhg@4ax.com>, Jasper Janssen <jasper@jjanssen.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:19:02 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <chipomarc@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Zoot, I've long ago learned never to click on any of your lame links. What is a Ideale, another
> >of your beloved hunks of cowhide?
> >
> >Anyway, this is what elite roadies like me are riding this year:
>
> So is the 'obnoxious racer' a role that you play or are you really like that?

Be respectful when you say that! Fabrizio has earned the right to be arrogant: he is the defending
champion of the Tour de Reves, among his numerous other virtual palmares.

That Fabrizio posts here is our honour, and his arrogance is his privilege.

Forza Fabrizio Mazzoleni,
--
Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

In article <pan.2003.06.21.17.13.26.266065@Sparky.spam>, "Bald Headed John Kane"
<bald@Sparky.spam> wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:19:02 +0000, Fabrizio Mazzoleni wrote:
>
> >
> > "Zoot Katz" <zootkatz@operamail.com> wrote in message .look.ca...
> >> .
> >>
> >> My most comfortable saddle is an Ideale 90 like this.
> >> http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Fra...le_alloy90.htm
> >
> > Zoot, I've long ago learned never to click on any of your lame links. What is a Ideale, another
> > of your beloved hunks of cowhide?
> >
> > Anyway, this is what elite roadies like me are riding this year:
> >
> > http://www.selleitalia.com/products/....php3?itemid=6
>
> Ugh, sounds so pretentious to declare oneself "elite", puhlese!

Fabrizio, 1; Bald Headed fish, 0. I really need to finish writing that Fabrizio Mazzoleni FAQ.

> Being a lame assed commuter I have found the Terry Fly comfortable. Only problem is the Ti model
> has thin leather which has never lasted over 5,000 miles for me and the CrMo version which is
> plastic covered squeeks when my lycra shorts become wet with sweat. Have switched to a <gasp!>
> Brooks Pro which I'm still not decided on.

It's amazing how different people are in their saddle preferences. I am very happy with a thin,
vinyl-covered plastic Selle Italia Nitrox. No groin-holes, no leather, not much padding, but it
suits me nicely.

--
Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:26:47 -0700, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote:
>
>That Fabrizio posts here is our honour, and his arrogance is his privilege.
>

I get a chill just knowing that Fabrizio is among us!

Barry

In article <r0p8fvs4h78p093b83fb545ice5sovvnhg@4ax.com>, jasper@jjanssen.org says...
> On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 01:19:02 GMT, "Fabrizio Mazzoleni" <chipomarc@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >Zoot, I've long ago learned never to click on any of your lame links. What is a Ideale, another
> >of your beloved hunks of cowhide?
> >
> >Anyway, this is what elite roadies like me are riding this year:
>
> So is the 'obnoxious racer' a role that you play or are you really like that?

Only the shadow knows!!!.....

--
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REAL programmers write self-modifying code.

On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 23:04:22 +0000, B a r r y B u r k e J r. wrote:

> On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:26:47 -0700, Ryan Cousineau <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote:
>>
>>That Fabrizio posts here is our honour, and his arrogance is his privilege.
>>
>
> I get a chill just knowing that Fabrizio is among us!

Take some aspirin, and it will go away.

--

David L. Johnson

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extreme, but that they are intolerant. (_)/ (_) | --Robert F. Kennedy