Cycling Europe

Hello to everyone from this group who visited my site before. I have pictures on it now! I've
survived the former war zone (it was amazing in fact). I'm just hope I get through Romania and the
Ukraine... it's going OK so far.

Graham B

www.cycleeurope.gb.com

GB <gbrown@go.com> wrote in message news:a07e07ac.0307140200.4e08ac50@posting.google.com...
> Hello to everyone from this group who visited my site before. I have pictures on it now! I've
> survived the former war zone (it was amazing in fact). I'm just hope I get through Romania and the
> Ukraine... it's going OK so far.

The whole of Europe is a former warzone!

Romania should be interesting (although Bucharest is completely ****). Horse and cart is the primary
form of transport there. A very, very beautiful and tragic country. Are you going through Moldova?
Now THATS a poor country!

As for the Balkans, did you go through Albania? It's a mad place, especially the north.

Hope its all ok!
---
DFM

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:36:17 +1000, "Deep Floyd Mars" <deepfloydmars@yDONTaBEhSHYoNOWo.co.uk> wrote:

>The whole of Europe is a former warzone!

Where isn't?

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:36:17 +1000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
> <deepfloydmars@yDONTaBEhSHYoNOWo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>The whole of Europe is a former warzone!
>
>
> Where isn't?

Antarctica and the moon spring to mind. In more populated areas, Thailand has done reasonably well,
I believe.

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Conscientious objection is hard work in an economic war.

Aye!.

Jim Price <maxxard@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:36:17 +1000, "Deep Floyd Mars" <deepfloydmars@yDONTaBEhSHYoNOWo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >>The whole of Europe is a former warzone!
> >
> >
> > Where isn't?
>
> Antarctica and the moon spring to mind. In more populated areas, Thailand has done reasonably
> well, I believe.

my memory's bad, but I seem to recall there were a number of wars between Siamese and Khmer rulers.
wish I had my references easily at hand.

More recently, the Thai made out extremely well from the Second World War, siding at first with the
Japanese (and of their own initiative carving out bits of British Malaya and French Indochina) and
then switching sides and favouring the allies.

I would have gone somewhere more remote, like, say, Bhutan, but I doubt even then that there hasn't
been a war at some time or other through that particular bit of the world.

Among the more populated places in the world, Switzerland has done remarkably well over the past
several hundred years, in the sense that there has been no war contested within its territory, nor
has it been an active belligerent in any.

-Luigi

trivium: "War" in the social science literature requires two indentifiable political communities to
be in conflict with each other, and that that same conflict should result in more than 1,000 deaths
on both sides.

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <guy.chapman@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:36:17 +1000, "Deep Floyd Mars"
> <deepfloydmars@yDONTaBEhSHYoNOWo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >The whole of Europe is a former warzone!
>
> Where isn't?

Depends where you want to draw the line on what disappears off into history. Perhaps a good
one would be when there are quite a lot of people who still remember what invading armies,
nightly bombing, men being rounded up and sent away etc. actually feels like in their own
towns and villages.

"W K" <hyagillot@tesco.net> wrote in message news:<bf3414$rhn$1@hercules.btinternet.com>...
> "Just zis Guy, you know?" <guy.chapman@spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:2rm8hv8am3isj52r2480fp68qd7fn58srl@4ax.com...
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:36:17 +1000, "Deep Floyd Mars" <deepfloydmars@yDONTaBEhSHYoNOWo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >The whole of Europe is a former warzone!
> >
> > Where isn't?
>
> Depends where you want to draw the line on what disappears off into history. Perhaps a good one
> would be when there are quite a lot of people who still remember what invading armies, nightly
> bombing, men being rounded up and sent away etc. actually feels like in their own towns and
> villages.

I recommend anyone to travel through the former Yugoslavia. The people there are very welcoming but
there is no chance of the war there "disappearing off into history". It's beautiful, educating and
sad all at once.