Disc Jockey Bob Dumas Allegedly Advocates killing Bicycle Riders For Fun! - Page 2

Ah yes.. free speech. Just not for DJ's.

Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com

"Kevan Smith" <Kevan@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:42:41 -0500, "Mike Beauchamp" <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> from
> http://extra.newsguy.com wrote:
>
> >Well maybe the DJ thinks that running over cyclists is an expression of
his
> >interest... it's not your personal job to figure out what is wrong and
what
> >is more wrong for the world.
>
> It certtainoly is my right, and I get to talk about it to. If you don't
like it,
> vote Republican. They hate free thought and free speech.
>
>
> >I only own a bicycle and I'm attempting to go my whole life without ever getting my licence or
> >owning a motor vehicle. I don't like SUV's (or how
you
> >put it, nazi ****wagons), and I express that interest by not owning one.
Not
> >by destroying property that other people have a right to own.
>
> Slapping a bumper sticker on an SUV is not destroying property. Get some perspective.
>
> destroy
>
> To ruin completely; spoil.
>
> To tear down or break up; demolish.
>
> To do away with; put an end to.
>
> To kill: destroy a rabid dog.
>
> To subdue or defeat completely; crush.
>
> To render useless or ineffective.
>
> What a mighty thing a bumper sticker is that it can do any of that to 3
tons of
> metal. IF only they could.
>
>
> --
> real e-mail addy: kevansmith23 at yahoo dot com Concentrate on th'cute, li'l CARTOON GUYS!
> Remember the SERIAL NUMBERS!! Follow the WHIPPLE AVE. EXIT!! Have a FREE PEPSI!! Turn LEFT at
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On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:58:13 -0500, "Mike Beauchamp" <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> from
http://extra.newsguy.com wrote:

>Ah yes.. free speech. Just not for DJ's.

You haven't seen _me_ in that clear channel thread(s).

I'm a radio announcer, too.

Of course, my show is more tasteful than clear channel shows, because I am a classical music
host. Woo!

--
real e-mail addy: kevansmith23 at yahoo dot com MERYL STREEP is my obstetrician!

That's cool... I did a rock type show with a lot of spoken stuff and callers and all that.
Very fun..

Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com

"Kevan Smith" <Kevan@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 23:58:13 -0500, "Mike Beauchamp" <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> from
> http://extra.newsguy.com wrote:
>
> >Ah yes.. free speech. Just not for DJ's.
>
> You haven't seen _me_ in that clear channel thread(s).
>
> I'm a radio announcer, too.
>
> Of course, my show is more tasteful than clear channel shows, because I am
a
> classical music host. Woo!
>
>
> --
> real e-mail addy: kevansmith23 at yahoo dot com MERYL STREEP is my obstetrician!

>I'm a radio announcer, too.

>Of course, my show is more tasteful than clear channel shows, because I am a classical music
>host. Woo!

It's 12:45 in the morning in beautiful downtown Shreveport. I'm your host, Kevan, and that was
Bach's "Christus lag in doodszwachtels", one of my personal favorite cantatas.

stupid name if I ever heard one. Probably he was a cop, all he ever wrote music about was dictators
and shooting perps.

Anyhow, Woo Hoo, we have a commercial coming up for NAZI ****WAGONS, you'll breathe a lot easier
after that one is over.

And I want to remind all you radio listeners out there, if you send me a thousand dollars I won't
post for a month.

--

_______________________ALL AMIGA IN MY MIND_______________________ ------------------"Buddy Holly,
the Texas Elvis"------------------
__________306.350.357.38>>cwhitman@texastwr.utaustin.edu__________

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 01:43:08 -0500, "Eric S. Sande" <esande@erols.com> from Realtime Limited wrote:

>>I'm a radio announcer, too.
>
>>Of course, my show is more tasteful than clear channel shows, because I am a classical music
>>host. Woo!
>
>It's 12:45 in the morning in beautiful downtown Shreveport. I'm your host, Kevan, and that was
>Bach's "Christus lag in doodszwachtels", one of my personal favorite cantatas.
>

>stupid name if I ever heard one. Probably he was a cop, all he ever wrote music about was dictators
>and shooting perps.
>
>Anyhow, Woo Hoo, we have a commercial coming up for NAZI ****WAGONS, you'll breathe a lot easier
>after that one is over.
>
>And I want to remind all you radio listeners out there, if you send me a thousand dollars I won't
>post for a month.

First off: NO CHORAL MUSIC.

Second: No Commercials!

Third: Don't ask for money like that until pledge drive.

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>First off: NO CHORAL MUSIC.

I like choral music.

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_______________________ALL AMIGA IN MY MIND_______________________ ------------------"Buddy Holly,
the Texas Elvis"------------------
__________306.350.357.38>>cwhitman@texastwr.utaustin.edu__________

On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:09:59 -0500, "Eric Vey" <junk@ericvey.com> wrote:
>--Natural occurrences, such as the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo--
>
>A Rush fan. Can I ask a stupid question?

Actually, while I understand that Rush has said that, I do not listen to Rush.

>Does it matter how much naturally occurring events cause things to happen as much as it does what
>we cause? We can't affect what Mt Pinatubo does, but we can affect what we do . . .

The point was that we are insignificant. We are NOT powerful enough to change anything, even by
carelessly abusing.

The most we could possibly do is exterminate ourselves, and let the earth go on without us, probably
better for everybody anyway. I'm not convinced that we could even do that, except by massive war.

>I am a grey hair and I remember when the same argument of Mt Pinatubo was used about the poor
>condition of the sewage treatment plants all across the country -- when it was pointed out that
>they would regularly dump raw sewage out into a lake, the powers that be said, "What little that we
>contribute to the lake's demise is small . . . our few hundred thousand gallons would be diluted by
>the millions of gallons in that

That lake doesn't have a natural source of similar sewage; the analogy is broken.

>lake." Same argument was used for the ocean. And litterbugs use the same rational "This one little
>can means beans in the big picture. All those acres of land, so my can doesn't matter."

That land doesn't have a natural source of similar sewage; the analogy is broken. Besides,

The point wasn't only that our contribution is insignificant compared to the amount of air in which
it is diluted, but more importantly, that it is insignificant compared to magnitudally (is that a
word?) larger contributions from nature.

>While we can't control nature, we can control ourselves. It is poor form to admit that we can't or
>that it doesn't matter.

Why does it matter if we do a small amount of something that nature does on such a huge scale?

--
Rick Onanian

>"Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:itsdqvkav50hh7em2088f50l8eehvi6nnn@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 12:15:53 -0600, Kevan Smith <Kevan@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>> >bumper sticker on your nazi ****wagon telling you that it's ruining
>our air and
>>
>> Kevan, you are quite proud of the human race, aren't you? You believe that we can have such a
>> profound effect in such a short time -- ruining out air in about 100 years. Here's a piece of a
>> post I've previously made on this subject:
>>
>> -=- Natural occurrences, such as the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo (more widely known for it's
>> temporary cooling effect caused by ash and dust in the air), have spewed forth more greenhouse
>> gases than mankind has ever caused. Additionally, Mt. Pinatubo's eruption resulted in
>> "Unprecedented size of 1993 Antarctic ozone hole by lofting ozone destroying species into the
>> stratosphere", according to http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~bruce/m1239702.html as well as rapid
>> climate fluctuations caused by the temporary cooling effect. All of these things, both warming
>> and cooling, are part of the natural system of Earth. This planet will survive and prosper no
>> matter what we do to it, and it will absorb most of what we do without becoming unbearable. The
>> biggest problem we pose is our overpopulation, and that will likely reach critical mass and
>> result in major dying off sooner or later...whether by disease or war/violence. -=-
>>
>> >guzzling a scarce resource is an expression of that interest.
>>
>> Err...what difference does it make to you if we use up our dinosaur juice? Then we'll all be
>> forced to do what YOU think is right -- give up automobiles for bikes.
>> --
>> Rick Onanian

On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:07:27 -0600, Kevan Smith <Kevan@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 21:36:54 -0500, Rick Onanian <spamsink@cox.net> from The Esoteric c0wz
>Society wrote:
>>Kevan, you are quite proud of the human race, aren't you? You
>
>I ride on city streets with those SUVs, their tailpipes a few feet from my face. The SUV in front
>of me might not be ruining _your_ air, but it sure is making

Ah, I see we have here one of your more intelligent posts. I'd suggest not drafting the "nazi
****wagons", or even riding on roads with less automotive traffic. Oh, wait, you live deep in the
city. Well, good luck with all that...looks like you'll have to take a dinosaur-juice-powered
vehicle out to the country so you can have some nice roads to ride.

It sure is nice out here where we depend on our polluting "nazi ****wagons" but somehow manage to
breathe clean air.
--
Rick Onanian

In article <8s3fqv0jcbjnm70oj1fgvtrg9o4346495d@4ax.com>, spamsink@cox.net says...
> On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:09:59 -0500, "Eric Vey" <junk@ericvey.com> wrote:
> >--Natural occurrences, such as the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo--
> >
> >A Rush fan. Can I ask a stupid question?
>
> Actually, while I understand that Rush has said that, I do not listen to Rush.

Oh, you mean Rush Limbaugh? I thought you were talking Geddy Lee and the boys <GGG>.

> >Does it matter how much naturally occurring events cause things to happen as much as it does what
> >we cause? We can't affect what Mt Pinatubo does, but we can affect what we do . . .
>
> The point was that we are insignificant. We are NOT powerful enough to change anything, even by
> carelessly abusing.

Individually, no. Collectively, we certainly are!

> The most we could possibly do is exterminate ourselves, and let the earth go on without us,
> probably better for everybody anyway. I'm not convinced that we could even do that, except by
> massive war.

Massive nuclear war could disrupt the earth's ecology for at least several thousand years, if not
destroy it completely.

> >I am a grey hair and I remember when the same argument of Mt Pinatubo was used about the poor
> >condition of the sewage treatment plants all across the country -- when it was pointed out that
> >they would regularly dump raw sewage out into a lake, the powers that be said, "What little that
> >we contribute to the lake's demise is small . . . our few hundred thousand gallons would be
> >diluted by the millions of gallons in that
>
> That lake doesn't have a natural source of similar sewage; the analogy is broken.
>
> >lake." Same argument was used for the ocean. And litterbugs use the same rational "This one
> >little can means beans in the big picture. All those acres of land, so my can doesn't matter."
>
> That land doesn't have a natural source of similar sewage; the analogy is broken. Besides,
>
> The point wasn't only that our contribution is insignificant compared to the amount of air in
> which it is diluted, but more importantly, that it is insignificant compared to magnitudally (is
> that a word?) larger contributions from nature.

Nature has had millions of years to adapt to its own sources of pullution and disruption. The 200
years or so that humans have been doing this are not enough time for things to adapt.

> >While we can't control nature, we can control ourselves. It is poor form to admit that we can't
> >or that it doesn't matter.
>
> Why does it matter if we do a small amount of something that nature does on such a huge scale?

Volcano's are episodic; there are long periods of time between that kind of eruption, and there is a
lot of time for natural processes to clean things up.

>
> --
> Rick Onanian

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"Eric S. Sande" <esande@erols.com> wrote in message news:3FA7675C.EEA90244@erols.com...
> >First off: NO CHORAL MUSIC.
>
> I like choral music.

Me too. I'm also fond of opera. Then again, I'm the big advocate of singing on the bike, too.

--
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On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 08:15:42 -0500, Rick Onanian <spamsink@cox.net> from The Esoteric c0wz
Society wrote:

>It sure is nice out here where we depend on our polluting "nazi ****wagons" but somehow manage to
>breathe clean air.

Are you sure your air is "clean?" How do you know? How many carcinogens spewed by cars and factories
and other man-made sources are you willing to inhale and still call your air clean?

--
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millions? It's th' MOUSTACHE ... Have you ever noticed th' way it radiates SINCERITY, HONESTY &
WARMTH? It's a MOUSTACHE you want to take HOME and introduce to NANCY SINATRA!

gOn Tue, 04 Nov 2003 03:46:20 -0500, "Eric S. Sande" <esande@erols.com> from Realtime Limited wrote:

>>First off: NO CHORAL MUSIC.
>
>I like choral music.

Then listen on Sunday mornings when we schedule the stuff. It doesn't do well in weekday ratings,
and I'm on weekdays.

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real e-mail addy: kevansmith23 at yahoo dot com Yow! I just went below the poverty line!

--We are NOT powerful enough to change anything, even by carelessly abusing.--

I am sorry, but you deny reality. We routinely cause whole species to become extinct. They taught
this to you in Primary School, did you forget? Did you forget how the Dodo bird and the passenger
pigeon became extinct? Perhaps you think it doesn't matter. "Insignificant" -- we will revisit
that word.

--The most we could possibly do is exterminate ourselves--

Possibly do? See above. "Extinct" means "never coming back -- ever." A permanent change.

--and let the earth go on without us, probably better for everybody anyway--

Oh, a fatalist. Listen, do me a favor, will ya? If you are going to kill yourself, don't do anything
that kills me, too. Thanks!

--That land doesn't have a natural source of similar sewage; the analogy is broken.--

I will explain this in basic terms since you seem to think that humans don't have the power to
affect nature.

Does a bear **** in the woods?

If your complaint is that nature usually does not concentrate things the way we do, then you are
adding to the idea that we affect nature in deleterious (defined as: harmful often in a subtle or
unexpected) ways.

Nature, in general, does not concentrate populations the way we do unless they are nomadic. Nature,
in general, does not take something that is generally beneficial as a fertilizer and concentrate it
to the point of toxicity. When nature does things like that, it is in the news (disasters) or
pointed out as unusual on TV nature shows, such as the walrus rooks.

But your complaint that nature has no natural source like the sewage treatment plant fails as well.

Floods, do indeed concentrate toxic wastes and cause them to flow into lakes and rivers. Generally,
an unusual occurrence, floods naturally pollute the water. An unusual, unavoidable event, unlike
the daily doses from the sewage treatment plants. The argument was w-a-y back then in the olden
days I remember, "We won't hurt the lake (or river) because we aren't adding enough to hurt it. How
could we pollute the whole (lake/river/ocean)?" Some people believed it, generally the people that
believe that milk comes from the store, water comes from the tap and garbage disappears when taken
to the curb.

--that it is insignificant compared to magnitudally (is that a word?) larger contributions
from nature.--

An old argument as I have tried to demonstrate. What exactly would you call "significant" anyway?

I suppose that when they break out the masks in Mexico City and Japan due to auto smog, you would
say that is insignificant because it is really a thermal inversion causing the trouble. I suppose
that when only the lakes downwind of coal plants suddenly turn acidic, while others that are not
downwind, (but in the same area) don't, it is by co-incidence. But the number of acidic lakes is
insignificant. What's a few lakes anyway? We have so many.

Oops. I forgot. We couldn't have done those things. What was it you said? "We are NOT powerful
enough to change anything, even by carelessly abusing."

When fish are killed over and over in a lake due to pollution, we should ignore it? Many people when
I was growing up did just that. If they ack'd there was a problem (hard to ignore the smell of the
rotting fish), they said it was too expensive to do anything about it.

Those events have absolutely nothing to do with Mt Pinatubo, and are not naturally occurring events.
At the turn of the last century, London was choking on smog and people couldn't hang clothes out to
dry without them coming in sooty, yet there are no volcanoes near there. What caused the smog? Now
the air is clear. How did that happen? By inaction?

__Ooops__ I forgot that you slept in school. Here:
http://www.doc.mmu.ac.uk/aric/eae/Ai...ndon_Smog.html

I have no doubt that when the internal combustion engine was invented, no thought was given to air
pollution. It caused very little pollution, neither did 50,000 engines, or even 500,000, but when
the number gets into the hundreds of millions, well . . .

I have no doubt that people thought that dumping raw sewage into a lake would not cause it to become
a large cesspool, and it didn't while the town's population was in the hundreds. Thousands of people
and hundreds of thousands people are another matter.

It didn't take many years at all to see the fish being killed, nor the air clouding up in Los
Angeles. At that point, the question is no longer "What is happening", but "What do we do about it."

Your argument is to do nothing since bad things are naturally occurring events anyway. I have
pointed out many things we have done. To point out that nature does things that are not good for us,
denies the reality that we can exacerbate those bad things. In particular, our population super
concentrates things and anything that is super concentrated, becomes toxic.

We can control this. . . . We should control this.

"Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
news:8s3fqv0jcbjnm70oj1fgvtrg9o4346495d@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:09:59 -0500, "Eric Vey" <junk@ericvey.com> wrote:
> >--Natural occurrences, such as the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo--
> >
> >A Rush fan. Can I ask a stupid question?
>
> Actually, while I understand that Rush has said that, I do not listen to Rush.
>
> >Does it matter how much naturally occurring events cause things to happen as much as it does what
> >we cause? We can't affect what Mt Pinatubo does, but we can affect what we do . . .
>
> The point was that we are insignificant. We are NOT powerful enough to change anything, even by
> carelessly abusing.
>
> The most we could possibly do is exterminate ourselves, and let the earth go on without us,
> probably better for everybody anyway. I'm not convinced that we could even do that, except by
> massive war.
>
> >I am a grey hair and I remember when the same argument of Mt Pinatubo was used about the poor
> >condition of the sewage treatment plants all across the country -- when it was pointed out that
> >they would
regularly
> >dump raw sewage out into a lake, the powers that be said, "What
little
> >that we contribute to the lake's demise is small . . . our few
hundred
> >thousand gallons would be diluted by the millions of gallons in that
>
> That lake doesn't have a natural source of similar sewage; the analogy is broken.
>
> >lake." Same argument was used for the ocean. And litterbugs use the
same
> >rational "This one little can means beans in the big picture. All
those
> >acres of land, so my can doesn't matter."
>
> That land doesn't have a natural source of similar sewage; the analogy is broken. Besides,
>
> The point wasn't only that our contribution is insignificant compared to the amount of air in
> which it is diluted, but more importantly, that it is insignificant compared to magnitudally (is
> that a word?) larger contributions from nature.
>
> >While we can't control nature, we can control ourselves. It is poor
form
> >to admit that we can't or that it doesn't matter.
>
> Why does it matter if we do a small amount of something that nature does on such a huge scale?
>
> --
> Rick Onanian
>
> >"Rick Onanian" <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:itsdqvkav50hh7em2088f50l8eehvi6nnn@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 12:15:53 -0600, Kevan Smith <Kevan@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> >> >bumper sticker on your nazi ****wagon telling you that it's
ruining
> >our air and
> >>
> >> Kevan, you are quite proud of the human race, aren't you? You believe that we can have such a
> >> profound effect in such a short
time
> >> -- ruining out air in about 100 years. Here's a piece of a post I've previously made on this
> >> subject:
> >>
> >> -=- Natural occurrences, such as the eruption of Mt. Pinatubo (more widely known for it's
> >> temporary cooling effect caused by ash and dust in the air), have spewed forth more greenhouse
> >> gases than mankind has ever caused. Additionally, Mt. Pinatubo's eruption resulted in
> >> "Unprecedented size of 1993 Antarctic ozone hole by lofting ozone destroying species into the
> >> stratosphere", according to http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~bruce/m1239702.html as well as rapid
> >> climate fluctuations caused by the temporary cooling effect. All of these things, both warming
> >> and cooling, are part of the natural system of Earth. This planet will survive and prosper no
> >> matter what we do to it, and it will absorb most of what we do without becoming unbearable. The
> >> biggest problem we pose is our overpopulation, and that will likely reach critical mass and
> >> result in major dying off sooner or later...whether by disease or war/violence. -=-
> >>
> >> >guzzling a scarce resource is an expression of that interest.
> >>
> >> Err...what difference does it make to you if we use up our dinosaur juice? Then we'll all be
> >> forced to do what YOU think is right -- give up automobiles for bikes.
> >> --
> >> Rick Onanian

Kevan Smith <Kevan@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
: Third: Don't ask for money like that until pledge drive.

four: set up a paypal account.

five: ask for money in more affordable chunks. $40 and i won't post for a day. $2/hr. payable
by paypal.

i'll write ya a web front-end for scheduling if you're interested. special rbm rates (pro bono).
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"Claire Petersky" <cpetersky@mouse-potato.com> wrote in news:RIPpb.103953$Fm2.88721@attbi_s04:

> Then again, I'm the big advocate of singing on the bike, too.
>
Humm, so am I...my buddy isn't though.