Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm not training for
anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and be faster on the bike next summer, and
more fit in general.

I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight lifting excercises. The problem
with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing hockey) and had a few knee
surguries. My knee definately feels stable now, but some of the leg excercises just plain scare
me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting action with my leg (raising my
foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I really hate, and feel like
they are very damaging. So I hate doing that movement, and would definately NOT want to do it
with weight on my leg.

Squats seem scary, especially with a lot of weight. With a bit of weight, I don't mind them. Calf
raises are no problem, and neither are the leg curls that work the hamstring. I'm not familiar
with the names of the muscle groups, or much about the excercises, but, it seems like the main
muscles used in cycling would be in the front of the thigh.. so, not wanting to do leg extensions,
I don't really know how else to develop those muscles. Leg presses maybe? (although I don't have
equipment for that)

For equipment, I really only have rollers. My guess is that the lack of resistance on rollers
wouldnt' really lend themselves towards building muscle mass... Maybe if I had something with a lot
of resistance, sort of like climbing a really steep hill?

As you can see, I'm new to the whole body/physical side.. I usually just ride.

Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com

In article <bo7g33013oc@enews2.newsguy.com>, "Mike Beauchamp" <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> wrote:

> Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm not training for
> anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and be faster on the bike next summer, and
> more fit in general.
>
> I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight lifting excercises. The
> problem with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing hockey) and had
> a few knee surguries. My knee definately feels stable now, but some of the leg excercises just
> plain scare
> me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting action with my leg (raising
> my foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I really hate, and feel
> like they are very damaging. So I hate doing that movement, and would definately NOT want to
> do it with weight on my leg.

> Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com

Aiee! I'm not a doctor or even much of an exerciser, but you of all people really need to talk to a
physiotherapist or similar expert about the appropriate plan of action. For one thing, maybe they
can come up with something that will stop those noises from happening.

Stamp out patellar tendonitis,
--
Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

Thanks for the reply, I've had them since surgury and all through physiotherapy. They aren't NOISES
really, I guess I described them wrong. It's just a bit of a grinding I can feel at one point in the
kneecap's travel. I remember the physiotherapist saying something about it, and that it would either
stay like that or eventually stop in time..

I agree that I should talk to a physiotherapist though, but since I'm not in therapy any more, I'm
not quite sure how to go talk to one..

Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com

"Ryan Cousineau" <rcousine@sfu.ca> wrote in message
news:rcousine-E476FF.23044003112003@morgoth.sfu.ca...
> In article <bo7g33013oc@enews2.newsguy.com>, "Mike Beauchamp"
> <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm
not
> > training for anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and
be
> > faster on the bike next summer, and more fit in general.
> >
> > I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight
lifting
> > excercises. The problem with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing
> > hockey) and had a few knee surguries. My
knee
> > definately feels stable now, but some of the leg excercises just plain
scare
> > me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting
action
> > with my leg (raising my foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I
> > really hate, and feel like they are very
damaging. So
> > I hate doing that movement, and would definately NOT want to do it with weight on my leg.
>
> > Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com
>
> Aiee! I'm not a doctor or even much of an exerciser, but you of all people really need to talk to
> a physiotherapist or similar expert about the appropriate plan of action. For one thing, maybe
> they can come up with something that will stop those noises from happening.
>
> Stamp out patellar tendonitis,
> --
> Ryan Cousineau, rcousine@sfu.ca http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine President, Fabrizio Mazzoleni Fan Club

In article <bo7g33013oc@enews2.newsguy.com>, newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com says...
> Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm not training for
> anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and be faster on the bike next summer, and
> more fit in general.
>
> I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight lifting excercises. The
> problem with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing hockey) and had
> a few knee surguries. My knee definately feels stable now, but some of the leg excercises just
> plain scare
> me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting action with my leg (raising
> my foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I really hate, and feel
> like they are very damaging. So I hate doing that movement, and would definately NOT want to
> do it with weight on my leg.
>
> Squats seem scary, especially with a lot of weight. With a bit of weight, I don't mind them. Calf
> raises are no problem, and neither are the leg curls that work the hamstring. I'm not familiar
> with the names of the muscle groups, or much about the excercises, but, it seems like the main
> muscles used in cycling would be in the front of the thigh.. so, not wanting to do leg extensions,
> I don't really know how else to develop those muscles. Leg presses maybe? (although I don't have
> equipment for that)
>
> For equipment, I really only have rollers. My guess is that the lack of resistance on rollers
> wouldnt' really lend themselves towards building muscle mass... Maybe if I had something with a
> lot of resistance, sort of like climbing a really steep hill?

Some rollers allow you to add resistance, such as a magnetic module or a wind-resistance module. Is
that an option for you? If you're looking at spending money anyway, what about getting a trainer
with an adjustable resistance?

--
Dave Kerber Fight spam: remove the ns_ from the return address before replying!

REAL programmers write self-modifying code.

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:11:55 -0500, "Mike Beauchamp" <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> wrote:

>Thanks for the reply, I've had them since surgury and all through physiotherapy. They aren't NOISES
>really, I guess I described them wrong. It's just a bit of a grinding I can feel at one point in
>the kneecap's travel. I remember the physiotherapist saying something about it, and that it would
>either stay like that or eventually stop in time..
>
>I agree that I should talk to a physiotherapist though, but since I'm not in therapy any more, I'm
>not quite sure how to go talk to one..

I know where you're coming from. I shattered my heel three years ago and the end result was having
my subtalar joint fused. I have limited movement in my ankle now and the single joint I have is
crunchy at times. Every time I ask my ankle to do something strenuous, I get that "am I going to
break it again?" feeling. I was told by my surgeon that the only way to resolve the "crunchy" feel
was arthroscopic surgery to clean out the joint. No, thanks. I've had enough surgery on my ankle to
last me a lifetime.

Recently, I had a rare complication of diabetes (high glucose levels) in which I had grand mal
seizures, most likely non stop over a eight hour period. When I was transported to the hospital,
I was strapped to the stretcher and continued to have seizures in which my arms were pulling
against the restraints. Now both of my shoulders have that "crunchy" thing going on. I never had
that before.

So anymore, riding my bike is about the only thing I dare do. It's pain free, unless I ride too long
and it's helping me get fit again.


*´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> Ratz O. Fratzo

> Thanks for the reply, I've had them since surgury and all through physiotherapy. They aren't
> NOISES really, I guess I described them wrong. It's just a bit of a grinding I can feel at one
> point in the kneecap's travel. I remember the physiotherapist saying something about it, and that
> it would either stay like that or eventually stop in time..
>
> I agree that I should talk to a physiotherapist though, but since I'm not
in
> therapy any more, I'm not quite sure how to go talk to one..
>
> Mike

Go talk to the one who treated you earlier. She/he will be flattered most likely. Once, when I was
in therapy, a man walked in off the street and started asking questions. Later, my therapist told me
that it's some kind of regulation that they have to answer questions even if people aren't their
patients. Besides, she said they were glad to do it.

Also, my Ortho doc told me stair climbing is good. He said, "Go up but ride the elevator down."
Maybe you can find a building and do that a bit every day.

Pat in TX

Mike Beauchamp wrote:
:: Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm not training for
:: anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and be faster on the bike next summer, and
:: more fit in general.
::
:: I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight lifting excercises. The
:: problem with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing hockey) and had
:: a few knee surguries. My knee definately feels stable now, but some of the leg excercises just
:: plain scare me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting action with my
:: leg (raising my foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I really hate,
:: and feel like they are very damaging. So I hate doing that movement, and would definately NOT
:: want to do it with weight on my leg.
::
:: Squats seem scary, especially with a lot of weight. With a bit of weight, I don't mind them. Calf
:: raises are no problem, and neither are the leg curls that work the hamstring. I'm not familiar
:: with the names of the muscle groups, or much about the excercises, but, it seems like the main
:: muscles used in cycling would be in the front of the thigh.. so, not wanting to do leg
:: extensions, I don't really know how else to develop those muscles. Leg presses maybe? (although I
:: don't have equipment for that)
::
:: For equipment, I really only have rollers. My guess is that the lack of resistance on rollers
:: wouldnt' really lend themselves towards building muscle mass... Maybe if I had something with a
:: lot of resistance, sort of like climbing a really steep hill?
::
:: As you can see, I'm new to the whole body/physical side.. I usually just ride.

You want the leg press. It will develop mainly your quads, but your hams and glutes factor in as
well. There will be no lifting action at your knee like in a leg extension (please avoid these --
they can cause serious problems if done incorrectly). The leg press with strengthen your knees, too,
and help improve your biking. Just start with very light weight and work up slowly. Pay attention to
form, too.

Leg press is sometimes recommended for cyclist in some books.

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...5LegPress.html

"Mike Beauchamp" <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> wrote in message
news:<bo7g33013oc@enews2.newsguy.com>...
> Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm not training for
> anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and be faster on the bike next summer, and
> more fit in general.
>
> I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight lifting excercises. The
> problem with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing hockey) and had
> a few knee surguries. My knee definately feels stable now, but some of the leg excercises just
> plain scare
> me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting action with my leg (raising
> my foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I really hate, and feel
> like they are very damaging. So I hate doing that movement, and would definately NOT want to
> do it with weight on my leg.
>
> Squats seem scary, especially with a lot of weight. With a bit of weight, I don't mind them. Calf
> raises are no problem, and neither are the leg curls that work the hamstring. I'm not familiar
> with the names of the muscle groups, or much about the excercises, but, it seems like the main
> muscles used in cycling would be in the front of the thigh.. so, not wanting to do leg extensions,
> I don't really know how else to develop those muscles. Leg presses maybe? (although I don't have
> equipment for that)

I'm no doctor, and don't know much about your problem, but it looks like anything you could do to
gain muscle may cause knee problems. If you want to work out those muscles, your knee is going to
have stess on it in one way or another, I just don't see any way around that.

You are on the right track to lose weight and increase your fitness with weights, but you still will
need some form of cardio for optimum results.

I would definately stay away from any leg extensions (like you described as sitting on the chair and
lifting your leg), as they put a lot of force on the knee. You are better off with squats,
deadlifts, and to a lesser extent, presses. Squats are not as dangerous as many people think if done
correctly. I would argue they are the best and most important lift of any weight program. If higher
weights bother you, you can make up for that somewhat with higher reps. The key is to only do as
much weight as you can maintain proper form with, and not to use machines, which don't allow for
proper form. Again, I am unsure of your specific problem, you will need to seek a professional
rather than internet help there.

You might want to check out misc.fitness.weights as well. There are a lot of jerks there, but a lot
of very knowledgable people as well and a lot of great advice.

On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 01:13:56 -0500, "Mike Beauchamp" <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> wrote:

>Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm not training for
>anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and be faster on the bike next summer, and
>more fit in general.
>
>I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight lifting excercises. The
>problem with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing hockey) and had
>a few knee surguries. My knee definately feels stable now, but some of the leg excercises just
>plain scare
>me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting action with my leg (raising
> my foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I really hate, and feel
> like they are very damaging. So I hate doing that movement, and would definately NOT want to do
> it with weight on my leg.
>
>Squats seem scary, especially with a lot of weight. With a bit of weight, I don't mind them. Calf
>raises are no problem, and neither are the leg curls that work the hamstring. I'm not familiar with
>the names of the muscle groups, or much about the excercises, but, it seems like the main muscles
>used in cycling would be in the front of the thigh.. so, not wanting to do leg extensions, I don't
>really know how else to develop those muscles. Leg presses maybe? (although I don't have equipment
>for that)

http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q...-8&as_ugroup=-
misc.fitness.weights&lr=&num=100&hl=en

--
Scott Johnson "Always with the excuses for small legs. People like you are why they only open the
top half of caskets." -Tommy Bowen

Go see a physio. Although avoiding leg extensions may seem like a good idea because of the way they
feel when you do them, they may in fact be just what you need to compensate for your knee infirmity
(done properly and with the right weight of course). I've had quite a a bit of knee problems and
surgery (though not your specific complaints)- different ligaments and bones broken- and extensions
were always part of my therapy. The theory being that if the muscles (quads in this case) are
strengthened, it takes pressure off the knee and ligaments. Again, talk to a physiotherapist, not
just those of us who play one in ngs.

Phil wrote:
> "Mike Beauchamp" <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> wrote in message
> news:<bo7g33013oc@enews2.newsguy.com>...
>> Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm not training for
>> anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and be faster on the bike next summer, and
>> more fit in general.
>>
>> I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight lifting excercises. The
>> problem with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing hockey) and had
>> a few knee surguries. My knee definately feels stable now, but some of the leg excercises just
>> plain scare me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting action with my
>> leg (raising my foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I really hate,
>> and feel like they are very damaging. So I hate doing that movement, and would definately NOT
>> want to do it with weight on my leg.
>>
>> Squats seem scary, especially with a lot of weight. With a bit of weight, I don't mind them. Calf
>> raises are no problem, and neither are the leg curls that work the hamstring. I'm not familiar
>> with the names of the muscle groups, or much about the excercises, but, it seems like the main
>> muscles used in cycling would be in the front of the thigh.. so, not wanting to do leg
>> extensions, I don't really know how else to develop those muscles. Leg presses maybe? (although I
>> don't have equipment for that)
>
> I'm no doctor, and don't know much about your problem, but it looks like anything you could do to
> gain muscle may cause knee problems. If you want to work out those muscles, your knee is going to
> have stess on it in one way or another, I just don't see any way around that.
>
> You are on the right track to lose weight and increase your fitness with weights, but you still
> will need some form of cardio for optimum results.
>
> I would definately stay away from any leg extensions (like you described as sitting on the chair
> and lifting your leg), as they put a lot of force on the knee. You are better off with squats,
> deadlifts, and to a lesser extent, presses. Squats are not as dangerous as many people think if
> done correctly. I would argue they are the best and most important lift of any weight program. If
> higher weights bother you, you can make up for that somewhat with higher reps. The key is to only
> do as much weight as you can maintain proper form with, and not to use machines, which don't allow
> for proper form. Again, I am unsure of your specific problem, you will need to seek a professional
> rather than internet help there.
>
> You might want to check out misc.fitness.weights as well. There are a lot of jerks there, but a
> lot of very knowledgable people as well and a lot of great advice.

Thanks for the link, but I don't think I have Patellar Tendonitis, which seems to be defined as
"Patellar tendonitis is diagnosed when an athlete complains of pain in the front of the knee coupled
with tenderness over the area between the knee cap (Patella) and the shin bone (Tibia). "

I had a dislocated Patella, and two surguries. I don't have tenderness between my patella and shin
bone. When doing leg lifts, I sometimes can feel a bit of "grinding" behind the patella at a certain
point during it's travel..

Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com

"Top Sirloin" <scottjohnson@iamacrackho.kc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:q4jfqvcf965gdkealb1ci960fdhkr9b9ln@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 01:13:56 -0500, "Mike Beauchamp" <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> wrote:
>
> >Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm not training for
> >anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and
be
> >faster on the bike next summer, and more fit in general.
> >
> >I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight
lifting
> >excercises. The problem with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing
> >hockey) and had a few knee surguries. My knee definately feels stable now, but some of the leg
> >excercises just plain
scare
> >me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting
action
> >with my leg (raising my foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I
> >really hate, and feel like they are very damaging.
So
> >I hate doing that movement, and would definately NOT want to do it with weight on my leg.
> >
> >Squats seem scary, especially with a lot of weight. With a bit of weight,
I
> >don't mind them. Calf raises are no problem, and neither are the leg
curls
> >that work the hamstring. I'm not familiar with the names of the muscle groups, or much about the
> >excercises, but, it seems like the main muscles used in cycling would be in the front of the
> >thigh.. so, not wanting to
do
> >leg extensions, I don't really know how else to develop those muscles.
Leg
> >presses maybe? (although I don't have equipment for that)
>
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q...-8&as_ugroup=-
misc.fitness.weights&lr=&num=100&hl=en
>
>
> --
> Scott Johnson "Always with the excuses for small legs. People like you are why they only open the
> top half of caskets." -Tommy Bowen

I'm never looking at spending money

I don't think I can add resistance to my rollers. They are fairly old, about 10 years and I don't
see any way I could attach anything to them. There isn't even an extra groove on any of the rollers
to add one of those cords (like the one going to the front roller) to any resistance device. Maybe I
can rig something up

Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com

"David Kerber" <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1a116c3dacaeaa1e989755@news.ids.net...
> In article <bo7g33013oc@enews2.newsguy.com>, newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com says...
> > Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm
not
> > training for anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and
be
> > faster on the bike next summer, and more fit in general.
> >
> > I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight
lifting
> > excercises. The problem with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing
> > hockey) and had a few knee surguries. My
knee
> > definately feels stable now, but some of the leg excercises just plain
scare
> > me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting
action
> > with my leg (raising my foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I
> > really hate, and feel like they are very
damaging. So
> > I hate doing that movement, and would definately NOT want to do it with weight on my leg.
> >
> > Squats seem scary, especially with a lot of weight. With a bit of
weight, I
> > don't mind them. Calf raises are no problem, and neither are the leg
curls
> > that work the hamstring. I'm not familiar with the names of the muscle groups, or much about the
> > excercises, but, it seems like the main
muscles
> > used in cycling would be in the front of the thigh.. so, not wanting to
do
> > leg extensions, I don't really know how else to develop those muscles.
Leg
> > presses maybe? (although I don't have equipment for that)
> >
> > For equipment, I really only have rollers. My guess is that the lack of resistance on rollers
> > wouldnt' really lend themselves towards building muscle mass... Maybe if I had something with a
> > lot of resistance, sort
of
> > like climbing a really steep hill?
>
> Some rollers allow you to add resistance, such as a magnetic module or a wind-resistance module.
> Is that an option for you? If you're looking at spending money anyway, what about getting a
> trainer with an adjustable resistance?
>
> --
> Dave Kerber Fight spam: remove the ns_ from the return address before replying!
>
> REAL programmers write self-modifying code.

I don't think I have one of those machines in my basement, but I can look..


Maybe a membership to the nearby gym is order... Thanks for the info!! That excercise definately
looks like it targets a lot of cycling muscles and also seems to be low impact when it comes to
the knees..

Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com

"Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bo8bp0$1aqhei$1@ID-166706.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Mike Beauchamp wrote:
> :: Hey all.. I'm trying to get a bit of an excercise plan set for this winter. I'm not training
> :: for anything specific, I just want to lose a bit of weight and be faster on the bike next
> :: summer, and more fit in general.
> ::
> :: I'd like to build up leg muscle, which I figure would require weight lifting excercises. The
> :: problem with that is that about 6 years ago, I had a dislocated patella (playing hockey) and
> :: had a few knee surguries. My knee definately feels stable now, but some of the leg excercises
> :: just plain scare me. It's probably a mental block, but still. Just doing a dry lifting action
> :: with my leg (raising my foot up while sitting in a chair) makes some cracking noises that I
> :: really hate, and feel like they are very damaging. So I hate doing that movement, and would
> :: definately NOT want to do it with weight on my leg.
> ::
> :: Squats seem scary, especially with a lot of weight. With a bit of weight, I don't mind them.
> :: Calf raises are no problem, and neither are the leg curls that work the hamstring. I'm not
> :: familiar with the names of the muscle groups, or much about the excercises, but, it seems like
> :: the main muscles used in cycling would be in the front of the thigh.. so, not wanting to do leg
> :: extensions, I don't really know how else to develop those muscles. Leg presses maybe? (although
> :: I don't have equipment for that)
> ::
> :: For equipment, I really only have rollers. My guess is that the lack of resistance on rollers
> :: wouldnt' really lend themselves towards building muscle mass... Maybe if I had something with a
> :: lot of resistance, sort of like climbing a really steep hill?
> ::
> :: As you can see, I'm new to the whole body/physical side.. I usually just ride.
>
> You want the leg press. It will develop mainly your quads, but your hams
and
> glutes factor in as well. There will be no lifting action at your knee
like
> in a leg extension (please avoid these -- they can cause serious problems
if
> done incorrectly). The leg press with strengthen your knees, too, and
help
> improve your biking. Just start with very light weight and work up
slowly.
> Pay attention to form, too.
>
> Leg press is sometimes recommended for cyclist in some books.
>
> http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...5LegPress.html

Wow man, those are some really unfortunate situations..

I know exactly what you mean about the whole mental block being afraid to injure yourself again,
especially after going through surguries. There are probably a lot of things I can do with my knee,
I just find myself afraid to do them sometimes... After my surgury I found just WATCHING hockey to
be very hard.. I kept concentrating on the player's knee areas and stuff.. it was really weird.

About the "crunchy" feeling... Do you know if it is bad for you? As in.. does it make things worse??
Or is it just a "crunchy" feeling that you have to live with? I can live with the crunchies no
problem, they don't cause discomfort physically. My only hang-up is that I'm afraid it is causing
more damage...

Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com

"-= Ratz O. Fratzo =-" <ratzofratzo@crapmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 03:11:55 -0500, "Mike Beauchamp" <newsgroups@mikebeauchamp.com> wrote:
>
> >Thanks for the reply, I've had them since surgury and all through physiotherapy. They aren't
> >NOISES really, I guess I described them wrong. It's just a bit of a grinding I can feel at one
> >point in the kneecap's travel. I remember the physiotherapist saying something about it, and
that
> >it would either stay like that or eventually stop in time..
> >
> >I agree that I should talk to a physiotherapist though, but since I'm not
in
> >therapy any more, I'm not quite sure how to go talk to one..
>
> I know where you're coming from. I shattered my heel three years ago and the end result was having
> my subtalar joint fused. I have limited movement in my ankle now and the single joint I have is
> crunchy at times. Every time I ask my ankle to do something strenuous, I get that "am I going to
> break it again?" feeling. I was told by my surgeon that the only way to resolve the "crunchy" feel
> was arthroscopic surgery to clean out the joint. No, thanks. I've had enough surgery on my ankle
> to last me a lifetime.
>
> Recently, I had a rare complication of diabetes (high glucose levels) in which I had grand mal
> seizures, most likely non stop over a eight hour period. When I was transported to the hospital,
> I was strapped to the stretcher and continued to have seizures in which my arms were pulling
> against the restraints. Now both of my shoulders have that "crunchy" thing going on. I never had
> that before.
>
> So anymore, riding my bike is about the only thing I dare do. It's pain free, unless I ride too
> long and it's helping me get fit again.
>
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> *´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·-> Ratz O. Fratzo

The physiotherapist's office is a short bike ride away, maybe I will go pay them a visit. I doubt
they would remember me because it has been so long...

I found your stair comment to be interesting... I take the stairs every time I can, and I have NO
troubles walking up the stairs, but I still have a limp going down stairs. My bad knee doesn't seem
to like the action of lowering me down a step onto the next foot. So I sort of skip down the stairs
in pairs, avoiding the slow lowering on that leg.. weird.

Mike http://mikebeauchamp.com

"Pat" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:bo88gk$1as62c$1@ID-194653.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> > Thanks for the reply, I've had them since surgury and all through physiotherapy. They aren't
> > NOISES really, I guess I described them
wrong.
> > It's just a bit of a grinding I can feel at one point in the kneecap's travel. I remember the
> > physiotherapist saying something about it, and
that
> > it would either stay like that or eventually stop in time..
> >
> > I agree that I should talk to a physiotherapist though, but since I'm
not
> in
> > therapy any more, I'm not quite sure how to go talk to one..
> >
> > Mike
>
>
> Go talk to the one who treated you earlier. She/he will be flattered most likely. Once, when I was
> in therapy, a man walked in off the street and started asking questions. Later, my therapist told
> me that it's some kind
of
> regulation that they have to answer questions even if people aren't their patients. Besides, she
> said they were glad to do it.
>
> Also, my Ortho doc told me stair climbing is good. He said, "Go up but
ride
> the elevator down." Maybe you can find a building and do that a bit every day.
>
> Pat in TX