My city's gone arctic!

This has been a bad winter for bicycling here Check out our temperature
today:

Winnipeg, MB, Canada Temp.: -40 C -41 F WindChill: -52 C -62 F High -32 C -26 F

NOT FUN.

--
Jem Berkes http://www.sysdesign.ca/

In article <Xns947F5855331B7jbuserspc9org@130.179.16.24>, jb@users.pc9.org says...
> This has been a bad winter for bicycling here Check out our temperature today:
>
> Winnipeg, MB, Canada Temp.: -40 C -41 F WindChill: -52 C -62 F High -32 C -26 F
>
> NOT FUN.

Nope. I've been out in wind chills that low before, but never an air temperature that low; my
personal record is -33F.

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"Jem Berkes" <jb@users.pc9.org> wrote in message
news:Xns947F5855331B7jbuserspc9org@130.179.16.24...
> This has been a bad winter for bicycling here Check out our temperature today:
>
> Winnipeg, MB, Canada Temp.: -40 C -41 F WindChill: -52 C -62 F High -32 C -26 F
>
> NOT FUN.

Britain is having really bad and disruptive weather at the moment. Right here its 4C (39F?) and
bright with blue sky, and the snow has melted.

I'm also about 4 degrees further north than Winnipeg.

In article <bvb947$apk$1@sparta.btinternet.com>, hyagillot@tesco.net says...
>
> "Jem Berkes" <jb@users.pc9.org> wrote in message
> news:Xns947F5855331B7jbuserspc9org@130.179.16.24...
> > This has been a bad winter for bicycling here Check out our temperature today:
> >
> > Winnipeg, MB, Canada Temp.: -40 C -41 F WindChill: -52 C -62 F High -32 C -26 F
> >
> > NOT FUN.
>
> Britain is having really bad and disruptive weather at the moment. Right here its 4C (39F?) and
> bright with blue sky, and the snow has melted.
>
> I'm also about 4 degrees further north than Winnipeg.

If the Gulf Stream stops due to global warming, you'll also be about 4 degrees colder <GGG>.

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"David Kerber" <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote in message
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> In article <bvb947$apk$1@sparta.btinternet.com>, hyagillot@tesco.net says...
> >
> > "Jem Berkes" <jb@users.pc9.org> wrote in message
> > news:Xns947F5855331B7jbuserspc9org@130.179.16.24...
> > > This has been a bad winter for bicycling here Check out our
temperature
> > > today:
> > >
> > > Winnipeg, MB, Canada Temp.: -40 C -41 F WindChill: -52 C -62 F High -32 C -26 F
> > >
> > > NOT FUN.
> >
> > Britain is having really bad and disruptive weather at the moment. Right here its 4C (39F?) and
> > bright with blue sky, and the snow has
melted.
> >
> > I'm also about 4 degrees further north than Winnipeg.
>
> If the Gulf Stream stops due to global warming, you'll also be about 4 degrees colder <GGG>.

Thats why Kyoto would be bad for the US economy.

No more competition from european farm products.

In article <bvbe1r$t5q$1@titan.btinternet.com>, hyagillot@tesco.net says...

...

> > > I'm also about 4 degrees further north than Winnipeg.
> >
> > If the Gulf Stream stops due to global warming, you'll also be about 4 degrees colder <GGG>.
>
> Thats why Kyoto would be bad for the US economy.
>
> No more competition from european farm products.

;-)

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>> Winnipeg, MB, Canada Temp.: -40 C -41 F WindChill: -52 C -62 F High -32 C -26 F
>>
>> NOT FUN.
>
> Britain is having really bad and disruptive weather at the moment. Right here its 4C (39F?) and
> bright with blue sky, and the snow has melted.

Sounds beautiful!

> I'm also about 4 degrees further north than Winnipeg.

Apparently latitude means very little

Here's something I just tried tonight that might give you an idea of what can happen at -50. I took
a cup full of boiling water and threw its contents straight up in the air. It's so cold out that the
water froze before it hit the ground -- ice rained down on me. I kid you not!

--
Jem Berkes http://www.sysdesign.ca/

> Here's something I just tried tonight that might give you an idea of what can happen at -50. I
> took a cup full of boiling water and threw its contents straight up in the air. It's so cold out
> that the water froze before it hit the ground -- ice rained down on me. I kid you not!

Show us a video clip next time. I want to believe

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Red_74 http://linx.by/red_74

Jem Berkes wrote:

> Here's something I just tried tonight that might give you an idea of what can happen at -50. I
> took a cup full of boiling water and threw its contents straight up in the air. It's so cold out
> that the water froze before it hit the ground -- ice rained down on me. I kid you not!

On top of Mt Washington in NH, they do that trick for weathermen visiting from local and regional TV
stations quite frequently.

Mt. Washington is supposed to have the most severe weather in the world, including the highest winds
recorded on earth (233 mph IIRC, and excluding outright hurricanes and tornadoes).

Earlier this week it was -43F with a 70 mph "breeze". A bucket of water went up into the air, and
crystallized ice rained down, mostly horizontally!

Not bad for a mountain only 6000 something feet high!

SMH

Trust me on this one, it works. I did it myself a few years ago when we had our last extreme cold snap. Incidental cold water works better than hot.

Here in Minnesota we hit -25 below zero last night. I tried this trick again earlier this morning, (didn't work this time) guess it wasn't cold enough... As I recall the last time I did it, the temp. was closer to -40. The effect you see is a small white cloud with the water freezing virtually instantaneously.

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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:57:31 +0000 (UTC), "W K" <hyagillot@tesco.net> wrote:

>Thats why Kyoto would be bad for the US economy.

Kyoto would be bad for the US economy because global warming and cooling has nothing to do with CO2
emissions. :-)

--
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children who go to watch their school play basketball every Saturday and regard that as their week's
exercise."
- John F. Kennedy, 1962

Cipher wrote:

> Red_74 wrote:
> > > Here's something I just tried tonight that might give you an idea of what can happen at -50.
> > > I took a cup full of boiling water and threw its contents straight up in the air. It's so
> > > cold out that the water froze before it hit the ground -- ice rained down on me. I kid you
> > > not!
> > Show us a video clip next time. I want to believe
> > --
> > Red_74 http://linx.by/red_74http://linx.by/red_74
>
> Trust me on this one, it works. I did it myself a few years ago when we had our last extreme cold
> snap. Incidental cold water works better than hot.

So what happens if you take a pee? Or is that really really not recommended?

EFR %°> Ile de France

"Elisa Francesca Roselli" <Elisa.Francesca.Roselli@quadratec-software.com>
wrote in message news:401A7710.DE6923F0@quadratec-software.com...
> Cipher wrote:
[...]
> > Trust me on this one, it works. I did it myself a few years ago when we had our last extreme
> > cold snap. Incidental cold water works better than hot.
>
> So what happens if you take a pee? Or is that really really not
recommended?

It may be apocryphal but I recall an account from a German general on the Eastern front in WW2
relating how it was so cold some soldiers actually died from exposure while releaving themselves.

It's relatively rare for the temps to get that cold herabouts [Southern Ontario] . I think the
coldest it's been so far this year is -25C or so with windchills down to -35C or so.

But I have to wonder if it being colder gets to be inconsequential after a certain point. I mean,
would one really dress differently or feel colder with temps at -55C compared to -45C?

They don't call it Winterpeg for nothing.

--
'And then one day you find, Ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run You missed
the starting gun' -pink floyd

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:13:30 -0500, Stephen Harding
<harding@cs.umass.edu> wrote:
>Mt. Washington is supposed to have the most severe weather in the world, including the highest
> winds recorded on earth (233 mph IIRC, and excluding outright hurricanes and tornadoes).

Also a beautiful view when you're up there, if it's not excessively foggy. When I went, it was mid
summer, 90 degrees F or more on the ground; it was either 34 or 40 degrees F at the top, and the fog
was so thick that it felt like breathing underwater. (No, that was not the altitudinal low pressure;
I've felt that elsewhere).

I really ought to go back and try to get there on a day when it's a little clearer at the top...and
remember to bring appropriate clothing.

Current conditions, according to http://www.mountwashington.org/ : -6.5F, 42 mph wind with 50mph
gusts, -38F wind chill.

Up there, when they say 42mph wind with 50mph gusts, they mean a very steady 42mph wind, like riding
a bike at 42mph on a calm day, with the addition of 50mph gusts (not like where I live, where wind
is usually unsteady).
--
Rick Onanian

Cipher <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote:
: Here in Minnesota we hit -25 below zero last night. I tried this trick again earlier this morning,
: (didn't work this time) guess it wasn't cold enough... As I recall the last time I did it, the
: temp. was closer to -40. The effect you see is a small white cloud with the water freezing
: virtually instantaneously.

awwww, i'm getting homesick!

incidentally, this is the minnesota equivalent of the (mostly wisconsin) cow-tipping tales. kind of
an aprocryphal story passed around to scare the little kids into wearing snow pants to school.

it's quite possibly true, tho. it failed me in the 1995 (or 96?) day off when arne carlson closed
down the schools & U of M (and was lambasted in the press for not letting the kids toughen
themselves in the -34F temperature). & by kids i mean kindergarteners. i tried coffee, tho. it's
cooler than water in the neat-o sense.

minnesota is the only place i've ever lived where long underwear is cool (growing up in se wisconsin
you wouldn't be seen dead in it) and it's a fashion statement unto itself.

anyway, i saw a bald eagle on the way to work, today. & since i wasn't in minnesota it didn't fall
out of the sky frozen & ready for the fridge. it was sitting in a pond full of geese .. all of whom
gave a respectful distance. even more rare i spotted a new fixed gear rider in boise! on a green
nishiki! he was trackstanding while waiting for a red light. be still my heart! i suspect people who
can trackstand wait for red lights more often .. on account it's so fun to trackstand.
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