Have fianlly sorted out the payout for bikes stolen in December. Taken a long time as Xmas and me
getting my finger out and there was a period of confusion when their tame supplier quoted for
bikes only and did not include all the bolted on extras. It could have been doen in a few days if
i'd wanted.

Their offer was like for like replacemtns for the 4 bikes and all the kit from their tame mail order
supplier, or a cheque to the same value as they would have paid said tame supplier - £1200

I wanted to deal with a local shop rahter than mail order, have all the bolt ons bolted on AND
upgrade to different spec bikes. So i opted for the cheque after contacting the Insurance
replacement guy at Evan's HQ, through whom a far better discout is available than in the shops. So,
I'm throwing in a few hundred to get the deal and bikes *I* want.

Am going to collect all 4 bikes (Specailized Rockhopper and 3xHardrock on Saturday)

Excellent deal and personlised service from Evans both in shop selceting bikes and kit and from
the HQ guy.

Excllent value insurance policy too! I'm not going to say who just in case too many of you think it
is too good a deal to miss and they take fright: £45 per year to cover all bikes up to a value of
£650 per bike (we specified the value) it used to be £28 till i got a kona nu nu last year!

I've also spent £260 on ground anchors and motorcycle quality security chains in the Garage!
Drilling 4" holes in the concrete floor this morning was not fun

Roll on sunday morning!

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PK
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PK wrote:
> Have fianlly sorted out the payout for bikes stolen in December.

oops wrong group!

pk

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:27:49 +0000 (UTC), "PK"
<spam.trap100@btinternet.com> wrote:

>PK wrote:
>> Have fianlly sorted out the payout for bikes stolen in December.
>
>oops wrong group!

no worries.

>
>pk

PK <spam.trap100@btinternet.com> wrote:
> PK wrote:
>> Have fianlly sorted out the payout for bikes stolen in December.

> oops wrong group!

I don't know, I thought it was interesting anyway. So, tell me about the anchors you're setting up
for the garage. I might be buying a used tandem from someone soon, and it would live in the garage
most likely. But I don't wish to leave it in there without some decent locking up.

Pics would be even nicer.

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives.

Dane Jackson wrote:
> PK <spam.trap100@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> PK wrote:
>>> Have fianlly sorted out the payout for bikes stolen in December.
>
>> oops wrong group!
>
> I don't know, I thought it was interesting anyway. So, tell me about the anchors you're setting up
> for the garage. I might be buying a used tandem from someone soon, and it would live in the garage
> most likely. But I don't wish to leave it in there without some decent locking up.
>
> Pics would be even nicer.

http://www.accessinsurance.co.uk/hardiesecure.htm

Single 4inch expanding 12mm bolt into the concrete floor. Very solid construction and bolt head
hidden behind non removable cover.

pk

On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:53:13 GMT in rec.bicycles.misc, Dane
Jackson <dane@unseen.edu> wrote:

> I don't know, I thought it was interesting anyway. So, tell me about the anchors you're setting up
> for the garage. I might be buying a used tandem from someone soon, and it would live in the garage
> most likely. But I don't wish to leave it in there without some decent locking up.
>
i don't understand you guys. why would anyone live where your bike isn't safe IN YOUR OWN GARAGE?

On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:53:46 -0900, NO_SPAM_TO_dpharris@gci.net
(Dennis P. Harris) wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:53:13 GMT in rec.bicycles.misc, Dane Jackson <dane@unseen.edu> wrote:
>
>> I don't know, I thought it was interesting anyway. So, tell me about the anchors you're setting
>> up for the garage. I might be buying a used tandem from someone soon, and it would live in the
>> garage most likely. But I don't wish to leave it in there without some decent locking up.
>>
>i don't understand you guys. why would anyone live where your bike isn't safe IN YOUR OWN GARAGE?

because housing costs are high in Britain.

Regular readers of CyclingPlus will note that that particular publication takes its lock tests
*seriously*. Wall anchors and floor anchors are likewise reviewed.

After living in London for a year, I returned to the US and was amazed that no motorcyclists seemed
to be locking up their machines--in London, Kryptonite hardened chains seem to be the state of the
art, at minimum looped through the front wheel to render the thing unrideable. Most of the couriers'
motorcycles had the chain running through the disc brake; likewise the sports, tourers, and
sports/tourers ridden by the City gent types.

Bicycles are of course universally locked. They are either the barely-serviceable rusting hulk used
for transport with minimal theft appeal (my solution), the 'q-ships' (my term for fancy bikes
elaborately uglified with gaffer tape, inner tubes, etc) or the soon-to be stolen.

Even in the bicycle heaven (Fietsens nirvana?) of the Netherlands, people are constantly worried
about their bikes. looking over my UglyBike and U-lock, a Dutch friend shook her head and scolded
me--only one lock? in Holland, the bike would be stolen already!

What is probably more amazing to me is that people live in places where they don't seriously have to
worry about their things being taken if not nailed down....

As regards bike theft, well, here where I live, there seems to be so little demand for bicycles that
most cyclists are safe. I've seen unlocked bicycles at the public library--but there are few of
these. Grocery-store workers who ride their bicycles to work (often on the sidewalks, but there's no
way to make them vehicular cyclists when the only time you talk to them is when you're stopped at
lights) do put weak chains on their bikes to deter ride-away thieves, since oftentime the bike is
their only link to a job....

<g>

-Luigi solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short.

www.livejournal.com/users/ouij Photos, Rants, Raves

Dennis P. Harris <NO_SPAM_TO_dpharris@gci.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:53:13 GMT in rec.bicycles.misc, Dane Jackson <dane@unseen.edu> wrote:

>> I don't know, I thought it was interesting anyway. So, tell me about the anchors you're setting
>> up for the garage. I might be buying a used tandem from someone soon, and it would live in the
>> garage most likely. But I don't wish to leave it in there without some decent locking up.
>
> i don't understand you guys. why would anyone live where your bike isn't safe IN YOUR OWN GARAGE?

What, you mean like on an island with no-one else on it? It doesn't matter where you live, things
can be stolen. Is it necessarily likely? Maybe / maybe not. I know in King county, with the economy
still pretty crappy, burglary has been going up over the last couple years. Could I leave my shiny
new tandem in the garage without it getting stolen? Probably. Does it hurt to sink a U-bolt into the
concrete and lock it up? No.

ObBikeStuff: Woohoo! My co-worker dropped off the Burley Duet he sold me, plus kid-cranks, and a
tandem mount for a roof-rack last night. Huzzah! Now I can ride with my wife, without feeling like
I'm dying of impatience waiting for her. Plus riding on a tandem is just more fun.



Anyone know what a good roof rack for a Chevy Prizm 2001 is? I am totally without clue on
this subject.

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g "Death is a once in a lifetime
experience."

Luigi de Guzman <luigi12081@cox.net> wrote:

> Regular readers of CyclingPlus will note that that particular publication takes its lock tests
> *seriously*. Wall anchors and floor anchors are likewise reviewed.

I really do need to get a subscription. I balked at the $60, but I picked one up while I was visting
my brother in Philadelphia, and it was awfully good. Everytime I see an issue of Buycycling, that
$60 seems less and less of an obstacle.

--
Dane Jackson - z u v e m b i @ u n i x b i g o t s . o r g Barth's Distinction: There are two types
of people: those who divide people into two types, and those who don't.

"Dennis P. Harris" <NO_SPAM_TO_dpharris@gci.net> wrote in message
news:07i040luqnjkdge7g1jracea9jgshknqa0@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 21:53:13 GMT in rec.bicycles.misc, Dane Jackson <dane@unseen.edu> wrote:
>
> > I don't know, I thought it was interesting anyway. So, tell me about the anchors you're setting
> > up for the garage. I might be buying a used tandem from someone soon, and it would live in the
> > garage most likely. But I don't wish to leave it in there without some decent locking up.
> >
> i don't understand you guys. why would anyone live where your bike isn't safe IN YOUR OWN GARAGE?

garage is 50m away at the far end of the garden.

It's one of the penalties of living in a prosperous bit of london, it acts as a magnet for the
scrote from adjacent run down areas.

Fact of london life I'm afraid.

pk