Pashley Sovereign in the USA? - Page 2

Claire Petersky wrote:
> "Luigi de Guzman" <luigi12081@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
>
>>To wander slightly off-topic, have you noticed that you've begun to
>>recognize all the *bicycles*, if not the cyclists, in your neighborhood?
>
> I
>
>>see the same bunch of guys riding around town, and even if I don't know
>>them personally, I can recognize them by their bikes: The guy on the
>>Independent Fabrications bike; the guy on the Trek 2200, and so on.
>
>
> There's a guy who I've seen now for years who comes down the minor arterial
> that leads out of our immediate little neighborhood. He's usually there
> about 8:00 AM, and I've seen him maybe on average about once every three
> weeks or so -- the timing has to be just right for me to be coming out of
> the neighborhood and him to be riding by. Then I've seen him on the reverse
> commute much less -- maybe about 2 or 3 instances in total. At this point we
> recognize each other on the bikes and do the friendly wave thing.
>
> I made up a whole story about him. He lives in Issaquah and works at
> Microsoft, and rides along the lake every morning -- a pleasant 8 mile
> commute or so. He's coming up this way because he's rather have a steeper
> hill and less traffic.
>
> Then, one morning, about a month ago, I saw him actually turning on to our
> minor arterial, and he was coming from the northwest, not the southeast as
> if he were coming from Issaquah. My little story was completely blown out of
> the water. My new story -- he actually lives quite close by to me -- one of
> the adjacent neighborhoods. He works in downtown Redmond. One day I'll
> double back, sprint, catch up to him, and ask him really what his story is,
> as opposed to the one I've made up for him.
>
> There's other folks I see all the time on the way to work. Some I only see
> on certain portions of the route, like the Asian guy on the Klein who I only
> see on Lake Hills Blvd., or the the woman who walks her husky dog just in
> one particular neighborhood. On the I-90 trail I see the young fellow with
> the little round glasses and the black pannier -- he shouldn't be growing
> that goatee, it doesn't suit him; and the guy with a hi-vis yellow jacket on
> the bent with the flag.
>
> I also often see Dane J. of our newsgroup, too, coming the other way -- I
> yelled at him just last week as he was coming up to Eastgate, but he was
> oblivious (as usual :-) ).

You've got the soul of a poet, Claire.

-km

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"the black rose" <blackrosequilts@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> Claire Petersky wrote:

[some free-form musings]

> You've got the soul of a poet, Claire.

Thank you for saying so, since I blather on so much around here, I hope that
my posts aren't immediately marked as "read" without actually having been
so.

Hey, did I tell everyone it looks like I'm going to get one of my essays
published in a literary magazine? Woo-hoo!


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Claire Petersky wrote:

> "the black rose" <blackrosequilts@netscape.net> wrote in message
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>> Claire Petersky wrote:
>
> [some free-form musings]
>
>> You've got the soul of a poet, Claire.
>
> Thank you for saying so, since I blather on so much around here, I hope
> that my posts aren't immediately marked as "read" without actually having
> been so.

I suspect mine are, largely. But mine aren't as uniformly good as yours,
usually.

>
> Hey, did I tell everyone it looks like I'm going to get one of my essays
> published in a literary magazine? Woo-hoo!

Many congrats. where and when?

-Luigi

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>Hey, did I tell everyone it looks like I'm going to get one of my essays
>published in a literary magazine? Woo-hoo!

That's great!

Although I find your writings a bit lacking in the action/adventure
vein, I do enjoy your spiritual take on things.

You are always a pleasure to read, try to get more actual blood and
guts into the story.

I remember your commute into the city with the compromised brake
wire, that had a degreee of suspense and anticipation that was
hard to beat.

And the ambiguous resolution was pure Zen.

I thought that was one of your most effective literary statements,
I'd like to see what other essay was better.


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Claire Petersky wrote:
> "the black rose" <blackrosequilts@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:aoJ0d.63662$Kt5.59376@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>>Claire Petersky wrote:
>
>
> [some free-form musings]
>
>
>>You've got the soul of a poet, Claire.
>
>
> Thank you for saying so,

Yer welcome. :-)

> Hey, did I tell everyone it looks like I'm going to get one of my essays
> published in a literary magazine? Woo-hoo!

Which? When? Give us the details!

-km

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"Eric S. Sande" <esande@erols.com> wrote in message
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> >Hey, did I tell everyone it looks like I'm going to get one of my essays
> >published in a literary magazine? Woo-hoo!

> I remember your commute into the city with the compromised brake
> wire, that had a degreee of suspense and anticipation that was
> hard to beat.

And you were the one who never would have gotten into that situation -- you
would have noticed the frayed cable days before the ride ever happened.

> And the ambiguous resolution was pure Zen.

D3 was the way I went.


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the black rose wrote:

> Luigi de Guzman wrote:
> --snip--
>> There are always a bunch of BMX guys tricking in front of the skate shop
>> here in town. They're pretty neat.
>
> I think it's pretty cool what these guys can do with those little bikes.
> Once in a while, my 13-yr-old son tries to imitate them, with rather
> messy results. I had to restock the first aid kid last time.
>
> --snip--
>> To wander slightly off-topic, have you noticed that you've begun to
>> recognize all the *bicycles*, if not the cyclists, in your neighborhood?
>
> This afternoon, the DH and I went out riding, and some guy in lycra
> passed us. We kept tooling along. He passed us again.
>
> *blink*
>
> We never saw him at the side of the road or anything. I'm sure it was
> the same guy. That was weird.
>
>> IF I had the skill, it would be amusing to attempt to construct a "light
>> heavyweight" roadster. Maybe a Reynolds 853 main triangle and fork, but
>> in
>> roadster lines. Or, for even more comedy value, how about a carbon-fiber
>> roadster frame? You wouldn't even have to paint it, and, if it held up
>> well to roadster use, it would definitely make me a carbon fiber
>> believer.
>
> The thing that concerns me about carbon fiber is, I've heard that any
> damage to the frame and it will deteriorate quickly from the point of
> damage. I have no idea if that's true, but if it is, it would
> definitely put me off carbon fiber.

I was trying to launch a few roadster-based flights of fancy. Chalo's fancy
cruisers probably aren't used enough or roughly enough to scratch their
groovy paintjobs (not something I can say of any of my bicycles). So a CF
roadster would fit that category.

Probably the closest thing to what I'm talking about are the A.N.T.
roadsters:

http://www.antbikemike.com/Big%20Bik...onroadbig.html

I haven't seen one up close and personal yet (chances of that are rare,
given where I live), but I think it's a pretty bike. But then, I favour
dark suits and sober* ties, too.

-Luigi

*the sobriety of the wearer, however, is not similarly guaranteed.

>
> -km
>

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Luigi de Guzman wrote:
> Probably the closest thing to what I'm talking about are the A.N.T.
> roadsters:
>
> http://www.antbikemike.com/Big%20Bik...onroadbig.html

Oooh, that is so cool.

If I get a separate bike for touring (DH and I are seriously considering
doing some loaded touring, maybe next summer, maybe the one after), I've
got just enough of the retrogrouch in me to be tempted by the Rivendell
Atlantis. Those are *pretty* bikes.

We found a T800 hiding in our LBS. It's been there a while and it's on
a good discount. And it fits DH, and he needs a new bike, and he wants
a tourer. Can you say, "Christmas present"? *grin*

> I haven't seen one up close and personal yet (chances of that are rare,
> given where I live), but I think it's a pretty bike. But then, I favour
> dark suits and sober* ties, too.
>
> -Luigi
>
> *the sobriety of the wearer, however, is not similarly guaranteed.

*snorfle*

-km

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In article <_B_0d.1282$Xc.591@lakeread01>,
Luigi de Guzman <luigi12081@cox.net> wrote:

> the black rose wrote:
>
> > Luigi de Guzman wrote:

> Probably the closest thing to what I'm talking about are the A.N.T.
> roadsters:
>
> http://www.antbikemike.com/Big%20Bik...onroadbig.html
>
> I haven't seen one up close and personal yet (chances of that are rare,
> given where I live), but I think it's a pretty bike. But then, I favour
> dark suits and sober* ties, too.
>
> -Luigi
>
> *the sobriety of the wearer, however, is not similarly guaranteed.

Beautiful bike. Sort of a perfect reinterpretation of the English
roadster but with 7 speeds and less weight.

That puts something to mind for me...I just picked up an AW hub attached
to a Phillips lady's frame. That, plus a nice old cro-moly MTB frame,
and I could really make a cheap fun town bike.


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Luigi de Guzman <luigi12081@cox.net> wrote in message news:<_B_0d.1282$Xc.591@lakeread01>...

> Probably the closest thing to what I'm talking about are the A.N.T.
> roadsters:
>
> http://www.antbikemike.com/Big%20Bik...onroadbig.html
>

Interestingly, I prefer the Major Taylor
http://www.antbikemike.com/antique.html
Love the sprocket and one piece crank on that. Perhaps this bike
harkens back to a time when the roadster and cantilever frame formed
separate branches on the evolutionary chain.

BTW, my experience with cruisers has been much different. In my area,
the cantilever frame is a serious mode of transportation. The LBS
sells some fancy ones, but the ones I see folks riding on are
typically well used. One, three and five speeds are very common. Like
it or not, they are pretty much the American roadster. And they are
very popular with the local college students, moreso than classic
roadsters, but less than *mart MTBs.

I think one reason they are so popular among practical riders is that
the curvy cantilever frame is a nice contrast to the diamond frame of
the roadster/"ten speed". Schwinn made many one, two, three and five
speed roadsters. But they were the kind of bikes for old people. And
"ten speeds" were for masochists. I can understand the criticism of
their being percieved as toys. But really, there are plenty of very
expensive road/MTBs that are basically toys for their owners. In the
mean time, regular folks just want something to ride that doesn't need
babying.

Luigi de Guzman <luigi12081@cox.net> wrote:
>
> Chalo wrote:
> >
> > But the design intent of those bikes was for conditions in the USA of
> > the 1950s. At that time, you would have seen such bikes almost
> > exclusively.
>
> Sure. What I want to know is when the cantilevered frame became *the* North
> American bicycle, when there were so many production advantages to be had
> from straight tubes.

You've got me there. They look nice, but I can't imagine why any
mass-market manufacturer would have gone to the trouble of making them
in the first place. Once they gained market traction, well, folks
demand what they are conditioned to want. Especially young folks.

> There are always a bunch of BMX guys tricking in front of the skate shop
> here in town. They're pretty neat.

My favorite to watch is "flatland" riding. It's like a form of
artistic dance, but the presence of a bike keeps me interested.

> To wander slightly off-topic, have you noticed that you've begun to
> recognize all the *bicycles*, if not the cyclists, in your neighborhood?

Only a few. There are a lot of cyclists in central Seattle. There is
no clear best route from my house to my work either, so I ride a
different variation almost every time. That and the fact that I leave
at a different time each day means that it's difficult to notice
patterns other than a few familiar faces, or bikes. There are a
couple who ride together on 27" bikes with North Road bars (might be
Raleighs), and I'd recognize them at a glance.

It's easier for me to identify the regular local dog-walkers by their
pooches.

> see the same bunch of guys riding around town, and even if I don't know
> them personally, I can recognize them by their bikes: The guy on the
> Independent Fabrications bike; the guy on the Trek 2200, and so on.

To be honest, a bike would have to be pretty distinct for me to take
passing notice. I'm jaded enough to think of stock or stock-looking
late model bikes as mundane.

> IF I had the skill, it would be amusing to attempt to construct a "light
> heavyweight" roadster. Maybe a Reynolds 853 main triangle and fork, but in
> roadster lines. Or, for even more comedy value, how about a carbon-fiber
> roadster frame? You wouldn't even have to paint it, and, if it held up
> well to roadster use, it would definitely make me a carbon fiber believer.

A five pound CFRP roadster frame would probably withstand anything a
mortal city rider could subject it to, short of being run over by a
car.

This bike may or may not be light by your standards, but it's pretty
nice:

http://www.encycleopedia.com/index.c...1&type=Product

Chalo Colina

the black rose <blackrosequilts@netscape.net> wrote:
>
> The thing that concerns me about carbon fiber is, I've heard that any
> damage to the frame and it will deteriorate quickly from the point of
> damage. I have no idea if that's true, but if it is, it would
> definitely put me off carbon fiber.

It shouldn't deteriorate from damage. Damage to the structural fibers
will simply lower the amount of load at which the frame will fail.
When carbon fiber composite fails, it breaks suddenly. That isn't
confidence inspiring, but it isn't due to progressive degradation
either.

Chalo Colina

Claire Petersky <cpetersky@mousepotato.com> wrote:
>
> I also often see Dane J. of our newsgroup, too, coming the other way -- I
> yelled at him just last week as he was coming up to Eastgate, but he was
> oblivious (as usual :-) ).

Hey! I resemble that remark!

In my defense, Eastgate is pretty fuggin steep. I tend to be head down
cranking out the watts to attempt to get to work on time.

The rider I keep meaning to stop and say 'Hi' to is some fellow I pass
a couple times a week. He's one of the few people I see commuting on
his bike year round. He's an older guy usually wearing bright yellow
and/or reflective gear. We usually greet each other with a "Good
Morning" or "Good Evening" as appropriate, but haven't had a chance
to chat yet.

Still it's a nice plus to my commute ride when I can say hello.

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"Dane Jackson" <dane@unseen.edu> wrote in message
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> The rider I keep meaning to stop and say 'Hi' to is some fellow I pass
> a couple times a week. He's one of the few people I see commuting on
> his bike year round. He's an older guy usually wearing bright yellow
> and/or reflective gear. We usually greet each other with a "Good
> Morning" or "Good Evening" as appropriate, but haven't had a chance
> to chat yet.

Do you pass him, or is he coming the other way? If it's the other way, it
might be Geoff Hazel. You can see his picture here:

http://www.cascade.org/Community/for...&threadid=1758


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Claire Petersky <cpetersky@mousepotato.com> wrote:
> "Dane Jackson" <dane@unseen.edu> wrote:
>
>> The rider I keep meaning to stop and say 'Hi' to is some fellow I pass
>> a couple times a week. He's one of the few people I see commuting on
>> his bike year round. He's an older guy usually wearing bright yellow
>> and/or reflective gear. We usually greet each other with a "Good
>> Morning" or "Good Evening" as appropriate, but haven't had a chance
>> to chat yet.
>
> Do you pass him, or is he coming the other way? If it's the other way, it
> might be Geoff Hazel. You can see his picture here:
>
> http://www.cascade.org/Community/for...&threadid=1758

No, I usually see him (the fellow pictured) a minute or two after I see
the cyclist I mentioned. They are both coming from the opposite direction
of myself.

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