Roberto Gaggioli is a piece of crap - Page 2

Nope, no defending anyone. I didn't even comment on
what happened after the race since I didn't see it. Of
course swinging a 2x4 at anyone (unless your in the
wwf) is unacceptable but since I wasn't there to see it
I left it alone.

I will say I am glad he didn't do anything straight away
when I (or you) may have gotten tangled in it.

dan

every year something of this sort comes up. always when the
heat of summer starts rising. interesting study could be
made im sure. heat and testosterone mixing could be
volatile....

"Rondechampion" <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040502125419.15149.00000592@mb-
m17.aol.com...
> Last night at the crit in Anniston, Al he attacked Johnny
> Sundt with a
2x4. He
> was upset about some of the meaningless crap that happens
> during bike
races and
> he tried to assult Johnny.
>
> He caved in the down tube on Johnny's bike when Johnny
> used to bike to
protect
> himself.
>
> This guy is a piece of crap and deserves to be suspended
> for a long time.
>
> He pulled a similar stunt a few years when he threw his
> bike at another
riders
> head and cut his head with the chainring.
>
> I wish this guy would just go away.
>
> USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-hole.
>
> the real rondechampion

"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
news:109armt5cip7c6a@corp.supernews.com...
> Rondechampion <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote:
> > USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this
> > a-hole.
>
> Were there no cops at the race?

It does not sound like there were any law enforcement
witnesses, but how often is that the case?

> I don't see where USAC has a role if the cops don't.

Clearly the "cops" would have a role it it was reported.
Also, note that Americans under their constitution can seek
relief in civil actions if they wish without the obligation
to have law inforcement involved. It is certainly a good
idea in most cases to have them do most of the
investigation, but it is not a requirment.

>
> Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

"Chris" <chrismcreynolds@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4096ad1d$0$35101$812600b3@news.nntpaccess.com...
>
> "Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
> news:109armt5cip7c6a@corp.supernews.com...
> > Rondechampion <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote:
> > > USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-
> > > hole.
> >
> > Were there no cops at the race?
>
> It does not sound like there were any law enforcement
> witnesses, but how often is that the case?
>
> > I don't see where USAC has a role if the cops don't.
>
> Clearly the "cops" would have a role it it was reported.
> Also, note that Americans under their constitution can
> seek relief in civil actions if
they
> wish without the obligation to have law inforcement
> involved. It is certainly a good idea in most cases to
> have them do most of the investigation, but it is not a
> requirment.
>
> >

What role did the police play when Mercer hit Myerson and
broke his skull?

Another reason to ban Italians from professional cyclingl.

"Rondechampion" <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote in message news:20040502125419.15149.00000592@mb-
m17.aol.com...
> Last night at the crit in Anniston, Al he attacked Johnny
> Sundt with a
2x4. He
> was upset about some of the meaningless crap that happens
> during bike
races and
> he tried to assult Johnny.
>
> He caved in the down tube on Johnny's bike when Johnny
> used to bike to
protect
> himself.
>
> This guy is a piece of crap and deserves to be suspended
> for a long time.
>
> He pulled a similar stunt a few years when he threw his
> bike at another
riders
> head and cut his head with the chainring.
>
> I wish this guy would just go away.
>
> USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-hole.
>
> the real rondechampion

Carl Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
> What role did the police play when Mercer hit Myerson and
> broke his skull?

Statements were taken and charges were filed. At one point a
warrant was issued for Mercer's arrest. This was about the
time that Adam stopped posting and he wasn't public about
the resolution.

Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
news:109f9v3553uc228@corp.supernews.com...
> Carl Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
> > What role did the police play when Mercer hit Myerson
> > and broke his
skull?
>
> Statements were taken and charges were filed. At one point
> a warrant was issued for Mercer's arrest. This was about
> the time that Adam stopped posting and he wasn't public
> about the resolution.

He may not even know.

Rumor has it that he attacked Eddie Gragus with a saw horse
a few years back and also ended the career of another rider
named John Brady. Greasy ponytailed idiot burnout.

Glad Sundt got a few licks in on him before they pulled him
of of Roberto. I'm sure there will be a special barrier or
curb he'll choose just for Roberto in the next race.

rondechampion@aol.com (Rondechampion) wrote in message news:<20040502125419.15149.00000592@mb-
m17.aol.com>...
> Last night at the crit in Anniston, Al he attacked Johnny
> Sundt with a 2x4. He was upset about some of the
> meaningless crap that happens during bike races and he
> tried to assult Johnny.
>
> He caved in the down tube on Johnny's bike when Johnny
> used to bike to protect himself.
>
> This guy is a piece of crap and deserves to be suspended
> for a long time.
>
> He pulled a similar stunt a few years when he threw his
> bike at another riders head and cut his head with the
> chainring.
>
> I wish this guy would just go away.
>
> USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this a-hole.
>
> the real rondechampion

Testosterone, is that code for steroids??!

danschmatz@aol.com (DanSchmatz) wrote in message news:<20040503004438.06424.00000404@mb-
m25.aol.com>...
> Nope, no defending anyone. I didn't even comment on what
> happened after the race since I didn't see it. Of course
> swinging a 2x4 at anyone (unless your in the wwf) is
> unacceptable but since I wasn't there to see it I left
> it alone.
>
> I will say I am glad he didn't do anything straight away
> when I (or you) may have gotten tangled in it.
>
> dan

In article
<J_Nlc.6549$Hs1.5339@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
cyclintom@yahoo.com says...
>"Bob Schwartz" <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote in message
>news:109f9v3553uc228@corp.supernews.com...
>> Carl Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
>> > What role did the police play when Mercer hit Myerson
>> > and broke his
>skull?
>> Statements were taken and charges were filed. At one
>> point a warrant was issued for Mercer's arrest. This was
>> about the time that Adam stopped posting and he wasn't
>> public about the resolution.
>He may not even know.

If he does not know, then probably nothing happened. In
order to convict they probably needed him to testify.
------------------
Alex

"Roger Ramjet" <not@this.time> wrote in message news:<CbBlc.112501$Gd3.27320942@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>...
> Another reason to ban Italians from professional cyclingl.
>
> "Rondechampion" <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20040502125419.15149.00000592@mb-m17.aol.com...
> > Last night at the crit in Anniston, Al he attacked
> > Johnny Sundt with a
> 2x4. He
> > was upset about some of the meaningless crap that
> > happens during bike
> races and
> > he tried to assult Johnny.
> >
> > He caved in the down tube on Johnny's bike when Johnny
> > used to bike to
> protect
> > himself.
> >
> > This guy is a piece of crap and deserves to be suspended
> > for a long time.
> >
> > He pulled a similar stunt a few years when he threw his
> > bike at another
> riders
> > head and cut his head with the chainring.
> >
> > I wish this guy would just go away.
> >
> > USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this
> > a-hole.
> >
> > the real rondechampion

I've had several teammates current and past that have had
run-ins with Sundt during a race, and he's always super
nasty to the amateurs in the field. If you're not pro, he
doesn't think you should be there, or should at least get
out of HIS way. Oh well, natural selection will take care of
things I'm sure.

Tom

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<7Dglc.3264$Hs1.169@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
> Roberto is a lot of things but he doesn't get violent for
> no reason. I think it likely that Sundt did more than
> "some ~ meaningless crap" to upset Gaggioli.

Gag is a piece of crap. To say anything else to speak is to
speak out of your ass. Unless you don't want to offend you
connections.

Offend connections to Gag or to crap?

"Rik Van Diesel" <metalkprettyoneday@hotmail.com> wrote in
message
news:83021f87.0405041315.5df55072@posting.google.com...
> "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<7Dglc.3264$Hs1.169@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>.-
..
> > Roberto is a lot of things but he doesn't get violent
> > for no reason. I
think
> > it likely that Sundt did more than "some ~ meaningless
> > crap" to upset Gaggioli.
>
>
> Gag is a piece of crap. To say anything else to speak is
> to speak out of your ass. Unless you don't want to offend
> you connections.

Bob Schwartz <cvcc@shell.core.com> wrote:
> Rondechampion <rondechampion@aol.com> wrote:
> > USAC----please don't puss out and not suspend this
> > a-hole.

> Were there no cops at the race?

> I don't see where USAC has a role if the cops don't.

I have no knowledge of the facts or people involved, but
USAC does have an interest in rider comportment, or whatever
it's called. USCF rule 1.O.5. Abuse
(c) No licensee may assault [...] or do battery [...] to
anyone connected with any event (including but not
limited to riders, officials, spectators, public
officials, etc.) held under a USA Cycling permit
[disqualified and suspended for one year]

I'm sure this rule isn't always enforced. Depends on the
egregiousness of the offense. And the number and importance
of the witnesses. IIRC, a couple of years ago, Nothstein got
kicked off a start line for having cussed at a cop while
warming up.

in article 109f9v3553uc228@corp.supernews.com, Bob Schwartz at
cvcc@shell.core.com wrote on 5/4/04 10:25 AM:

> Carl Sundquist <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote:
>> What role did the police play when Mercer hit Myerson and
>> broke his skull?
>
> Statements were taken and charges were filed. At one point
> a warrant was issued for Mercer's arrest. This was about
> the time that Adam stopped posting and he wasn't public
> about the resolution.
>
> Bob Schwartz cvcc@execpc.com

I was told you kids were talking about this.

I saw Jonny's bike after the race, it was ugly. It would
have really been bad if that was his head. I did not see
either incident, however.

Mercer got suspended for 13 months from USAC, a 2nd degree
felony charge, 3 years probation, and had to pay any
uncovered medical bills I had, about $600 of $25,000.

Jonny asked me what he should do, I told Jonny he should
press charges just to make sure he had things documented in
case he wanted to take recourse later. Supposedly Monex is
going to replace his bike and other damaged equipment, and
Jonny was happy with that.

Adam