Hinault doubts Armstrong can win - Page 2

"Bob in CT" <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net> a écrit dans le message de
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> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:24:52 +0200, trg
> <trg@world.REMOVE.THIS.com> wrote:
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> > "matabala" <matabala@wanadoo.fr> a écrit dans le message
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> >> "trg" <trg@world.REMOVE.THIS.com> wrote in message
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> >> > "brian roth" <brian_j_roth@yahoo.com> a écrit dans le
> >> > message de news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting-
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> >> > > found at www.dallasnews.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
> >> > >
> >> > > Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-
> >> > > time Tour
> >> champion
> >> > Bernard
> >> > > Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour
> >> > > doubts Armstrong
> >> will
> >> > score the
> >> > > elusive sixth win.
> >> > >
> >> > > "He has not looked that good this year, and
> >> > > everyone saw how he
> >> struggled
> >> > in
> >> > > the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of
> >> > > winning are only
> >> 50-50
> >> > at
> >> > > best," Hinault said.
> >> > >
> >> > > Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the
> >> > > Tour. After
> > Armstrong's
> >> > fifth
> >> > > victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand
> >> > > and said,
"Welcome
> > to
> >> > the
> >> > > club."
> >> >
> >> > This quote is about a month old, just after the
> >> > Dauphiné. I wonder
> >> what
> >> > Hinault would say today?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> The other day on French TV, when asked whether
> >> Armstrong would win a
> > sixth,
> >> he replied brusquely like he was tired of answering the
> >> question, "Je m'en fou" (I could care less), adding "if
> >> Mercxx concentrated only on the Tour he'd probably
> >> still be winning the thing"
> >>
> >>
> > In the same interview he said that it makes no sense to
> > compare riders from different eras.
> >
> >
>
> I don't think that it does make sense. Now, you have
> people spending hours in wind tunnels trying to get as
> aerodynamic as possible. Heck, Lance even takes drinks a
> particular way to benefit aerodynamics. And then you have
> different bikes, different training, better analysis of
> diet, HR, etc. The list goes on and on.
>
I agree. But that's all interviewers seem to want to know.

"brian roth" <brian_j_roth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> found at www.dallasnews.com
>
>
> Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
>
> Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time
> Tour champion
Bernard
> Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour doubts
> Armstrong will
score the
> elusive sixth win.
>
> "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw
> how he struggled
in
> the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of winning
> are only 50-50
at
> best," Hinault said.
>
> Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour.
> After Armstrong's
fifth
> victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand and
> said, "Welcome to
the
> club."

So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or
illness he should win !!

Pistof wrote:
> "brian roth" <brian_j_roth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.com...
>> found at www.dallasnews.com
>>
>>
>> Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
>>
>> Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time
>> Tour champion Bernard Hinault, but the last Frenchman to
>> win the Tour doubts Armstrong will score the elusive
>> sixth win.
>>
>> "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone
>> saw how he struggled in the mountains last year, so I'd
>> say his chances of winning are only 50-50 at best,"
>> Hinault said.
>>
>> Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour.
>> After Armstrong's fifth victory last year, Hinault shook
>> Armstrong's hand and said, "Welcome to the club."
>
> I wonder what Hinault will say if Armstrong creates the
> #6 Club.
>
> Dave
Congratulations. (And thanks again for making everyone
forget about Lemond
)

Ilan Vardi <ilanpi@yahoo.com> wrote:
> brian_j_roth@yahoo.com (brian roth) wrote in message
> news:<ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.com>...
>> found at www.dallasnews.com
>>
>>
>> Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
>>
>> Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time
>> Tour champion Bernard Hinault, but the last Frenchman to
>> win the Tour doubts Armstrong will score the elusive
>> sixth win.
>>
>> "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone
>> saw how he struggled in the mountains last year, so I'd
>> say his chances of winning are only 50-50 at best,"
>> Hinault said.
>>
>> Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour.
>> After Armstrong's fifth victory last year, Hinault shook
>> Armstrong's hand and said, "Welcome to the club."

> Given the fact that Armstrong has more than one
> challenger, 50-50 odds of him winning implies that
> Armstrong is the favorite. Once again, proof that Hinault
> is an idiot, apart from his other obvious faults.

What's his wine cellar like?

> -ilan

"Churchill" <yes@yes.com> writes:

> "brian roth" <brian_j_roth@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.com...
>> found at www.dallasnews.com
>>
>> Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
>>
>> Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time
>> Tour champion Bernard Hinault, but the last Frenchman to
>> win the Tour doubts Armstrong will score the elusive
>> sixth win.
>>
>> "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone
>> saw how he struggled in the mountains last year, so I'd
>> say his chances of winning are only 50-50 at best,"
>> Hinault said.

Never mind that Armstrong posted his fastest-ever ascent of
Mont Ventoux this year in the Dauphine-Libere. Or that
Armstrong did "OK" in the mountains in the 2003 Tour- taking
the Maillot Jaune on Alpe-D'Huez, winning on Luz Ardiden by
:40 over Mayo and Ullrich after crashing... I guess
"vulnerable" = "didn't win every mountain stage."

>> Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour.
>> After Armstrong's fifth victory last year, Hinault shook
>> Armstrong's hand and said, "Welcome to the club."
>
> So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash
> or illness he should win !!

Well, you have to take Hinault with a grain of salt. He
doesn't like to get beaten, even if he's not racing any
more. But Hinault has a point- the odds of getting through 6
Tours without a sick day, a serious crash, or just "un jour
sans" are tough. Armstrong is facing a strong field of
contenders this year, perhaps more so than in previous
years. The last week of the Tour is going to be *very*
intersting, I think.

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 16:30:17 GMT, Bob in CT <ctviggen.x@adelphia.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 18:24:52 +0200, trg
><trg@world.REMOVE.THIS.com> wrote:

>> In the same interview he said that it makes no sense to
>> compare riders from different eras.
>>
>>
>
>I don't think that it does make sense. Now, you have people
>spending hours in wind tunnels trying to get as aerodynamic
>as possible. Heck, Lance even takes drinks a particular way
>to benefit aerodynamics. And then you have different bikes,
>different training, better analysis of diet, HR, etc. The
>list goes on and on.

Which is why Lance is the best ever.

JP