USA Cycling category adjustments

Hey,

Just saw this over at www.usacycling.org. Anybody care to comment?

Thanks, Ronde Chumpion

For immediate release;

Colorado Springs, CO. (Aug 14, 2003)

Attention USA Cycling Members:

Effective Jan 1, 2004, USA Cycling will begin a series of new measures recently voted in by the
board that bring parity to all classes of racing. With the unexpected surge in popularity in road
cycling, the federation voted to restrict all age graded racers from participating in senior
events. These changes are in effect for all road and track events from grass roots local to elite
national level competitions. The primary reason such a move is possible is the incredible success
of the juniors, masters, and most recently espoir age divisions. The membership has responded
positively to holding races for juniors age 10-12, 13-14, 15-16, and 17-18. The masters have been
equally surprising, having filled age brackets in 5 year increments from 30 years on up. This led
to the recent addition of the espoirs (otherwise known as U-23). The seperation of under 23 year
olds has helped in identifying future talent, and allowed USA Cycling coaches to bring them along
without undue pressure for results. The biggest impact of these rule changes schedule to begin in
2004, will be the removing of age graded cyclists from the category events. The 5 category system
of ranking riders will remain unchanged. Riders hoping to participate in category races must
present a USA Cycling license with the correct category noted. All Category events will now only
be open to riders aged 24-29. This move is expected to bring the same type of favorable response
as the earlier adjustments mentioned above did.

Board of Directors; USA Cycling. IOC member USA Cycling Resident Coaching Program

Continued Thanks, President Biscalegia USA Cycling Inc.

>All Category events will now only be open to riders aged 24-29.

I'd hate to be an espoir or junior, as this will substantially cut down on the races available to
them, unless there's a huge upswell in the offering of these classes. I would thing the racer
demographics in most areas of the country would make these classes prohibitive, as surely every race
is now going to have to have multiple masters classes to accomodate all the "old" guys.

What if you're in part of the country where master's races are 35+? I guess you don't get to race.

I'd love to validate your post, but the USAC website is dog slow. Would you care to provide a hint
as to where on the site one might find this information for themselves?

Sounds like a troll, but if true, I am officially through with USAC/USCF. Thurlow Rogers will get
off his bike and just cry.

-kaiser

rondechumpion@aol.com (ronde chumpion) wrote in message
news:<62f26b38.0308140626.4046acd8@posting.google.com>...
> Hey,
>
> Just saw this over at www.usacycling.org. Anybody care to comment?
>
> Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
>
>
>
>
> For immediate release;
>
> Colorado Springs, CO. (Aug 14, 2003)
>
> Attention USA Cycling Members:
>
> Effective Jan 1, 2004, USA Cycling will begin a series of new measures recently voted in by the
> board that bring parity to all classes of racing. With the unexpected surge in popularity in
> road cycling, the federation voted to restrict all age graded racers from participating in
> senior events. These changes are in effect for all road and track events from grass roots local
> to elite national level competitions. The primary reason such a move is possible is the
> incredible success of the juniors, masters, and most recently espoir age divisions. The
> membership has responded positively to holding races for juniors age 10-12, 13-14, 15-16, and
> 17-18. The masters have been equally surprising, having filled age brackets in 5 year
> increments from 30 years on up. This led to the recent addition of the espoirs (otherwise known
> as U-23). The seperation of under 23 year olds has helped in identifying future talent, and
> allowed USA Cycling coaches to bring them along without undue pressure for results. The biggest
> impact of these rule changes schedule to begin in 2004, will be the removing of age graded
> cyclists from the category events. The 5 category system of ranking riders will remain
> unchanged. Riders hoping to participate in category races must present a USA Cycling license
> with the correct category noted. All Category events will now only be open to riders aged
> 24-29. This move is expected to bring the same type of favorable response as the earlier
> adjustments mentioned above did.
>
> Board of Directors; USA Cycling. IOC member USA Cycling Resident Coaching Program
>
> Continued Thanks, President Biscalegia USA Cycling Inc.

"ronde chumpion" <rondechumpion@aol.com> wrote in message
news:62f26b38.0308140626.4046acd8@posting.google.com...
> Hey,
>
> Just saw this over at www.usacycling.org. Anybody care to comment?
>
> Thanks, Ronde Chumpion
>
>
>
>
> For immediate release;
>
> Colorado Springs, CO. (Aug 14, 2003)
>
> Attention USA Cycling Members:
>
> Effective Jan 1, 2004, USA Cycling will begin a series of new measures recently voted in by the
> board that bring parity to all classes of racing. With the unexpected surge in popularity in
> road cycling, the federation voted to restrict all age graded racers from participating in
> senior events. These changes are in effect for all road and track events from grass roots local
> to elite national level competitions. The primary reason such a move is possible is the
> incredible success of the juniors, masters, and most recently espoir age divisions. The
> membership has responded positively to holding races for juniors age 10-12, 13-14, 15-16, and
> 17-18. The masters have been equally surprising, having filled age brackets in 5 year
> increments from 30 years on up. This led to the recent addition of the espoirs (otherwise known
> as U-23). The seperation of under 23 year olds has helped in identifying future talent, and
> allowed USA Cycling coaches to bring them along without undue pressure for results. The biggest
> impact of these rule changes schedule to begin in 2004, will be the removing of age graded
> cyclists from the category events. The 5 category system of ranking riders will remain
> unchanged. Riders hoping to participate in category races must present a USA Cycling license
> with the correct category noted. All Category events will now only be open to riders aged
> 24-29. This move is expected to bring the same type of favorable response as the earlier
> adjustments mentioned above did.
>
> Board of Directors; USA Cycling. IOC member USA Cycling Resident Coaching Program
>
> Continued Thanks, President Biscalegia USA Cycling Inc.

Do I care to comment? Why yes, I do. This is one of your more complex trolls. It is interesting to
read and almost reasonable enough to be possible. I commend your intentional misspelling of Gerard
Bisceglia's name and representing him as the "President" rather than his actual title, "Chief
Executive Officer (CEO)." Perhaps you thought that this would keep you from getting into legal
trouble with him and the USAC. Who knows, it might. Your posts frequently add spice to RBR.

Robert (just another fattie masters sometimes racer) StJames

> rondechumpion@aol.com (ronde chumpion) wrote in message
news:<62f26b38.0308140626.4046acd8@posting.google.com>...

> > President Biscalegia

Your attempt at trolling might have been more successful if you knew how to spell.

Andy Coggan

"Crank Yanker" <rosed123@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> >All Category events will now only be open to riders aged 24-29.
>
> I'd hate to be an espoir or junior, as this will substantially cut down on the races available to
> them, unless there's a huge upswell in the offering of these classes. I would thing the racer
> demographics in most areas of the country would make these classes prohibitive, as surely every
> race is now going to have to have multiple masters classes to accomodate all the "old" guys.
>
> What if you're in part of the country where master's races are 35+? I guess you don't get to race.

Latest word is that Masters categories will be based on BMI :

Below 18.5 Underweight
18.5 - 24.9 Normal
19. - 29.9 Overweight
20. and Above Obese

-T

"Tom Schulenburg" <tschulenYour@Hatpacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Crank Yanker" <rosed123@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:f4c1d04c.0308141105.50c1a259@posting.google.com...
> > >All Category events will now only be open to riders aged 24-29.
> >
> > I'd hate to be an espoir or junior, as this will substantially cut down on the races available
> > to them, unless there's a huge upswell in the offering of these classes. I would thing the racer
> > demographics in most areas of the country would make these classes prohibitive, as surely every
> > race is now going to have to have multiple masters classes to accomodate all the "old" guys.
> >
> > What if you're in part of the country where master's races are 35+? I guess you don't get
> > to race.
>
> Latest word is that Masters categories will be based on BMI :
>
> Below 18.5 Underweight
> 18.5 - 24.9 Normal
> 25. - 29.9 Overweight
> 30. and Above Obese

Scratch the Underweight category. I doubt there is even 1 tenth of 1 percent of Masters Fatties that
are below 18.5 BMI.

"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tom Schulenburg" <tschulenYour@Hatpacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:U5T_a.504$iZ.112@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > "Crank Yanker" <rosed123@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:f4c1d04c.0308141105.50c1a259@posting.google.com...
> > > >All Category events will now only be open to riders aged 24-29.
> > >
> > > I'd hate to be an espoir or junior, as this will substantially cut down on the races available
> > > to them, unless there's a huge upswell in the offering of these classes. I would thing the
> > > racer demographics in most areas of the country would make these classes prohibitive, as
> > > surely every race is now going to have to have multiple masters classes to accomodate all the
> > > "old" guys.
> > >
> > > What if you're in part of the country where master's races are 35+? I guess you don't get to
> > > race.
> >
> > Latest word is that Masters categories will be based on BMI :
> >
> > Below 18.5 Underweight
> > 18.5 - 24.9 Normal
> > 25. - 29.9 Overweight
> > 30. and Above Obese
>
>
> Scratch the Underweight category. I doubt there is even 1 tenth of 1
percent
> of Masters Fatties that are below 18.5 BMI.
>
>

Yes, but by definition, doesn't the concept of "Masters" reward a person just for showing up? Nobody
said it had to be competitive. Live long enough and get a Nats Jersey.

-T

Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
>
> "Tom Schulenburg" <tschulenYour@Hatpacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:U5T_a.504$iZ.112@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > "Crank Yanker" <rosed123@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:f4c1d04c.0308141105.50c1a259@posting.google.com...
> > > >All Category events will now only be open to riders aged 24-29.
> > >
> > > I'd hate to be an espoir or junior, as this will substantially cut down on the races available
> > > to them, unless there's a huge upswell in the offering of these classes. I would thing the
> > > racer demographics in most areas of the country would make these classes prohibitive, as
> > > surely every race is now going to have to have multiple masters classes to accomodate all the
> > > "old" guys.
> > >
> > > What if you're in part of the country where master's races are 35+? I guess you don't get to
> > > race.
> >
> > Latest word is that Masters categories will be based on BMI :
> >
> > Below 18.5 Underweight
> > 18.5 - 24.9 Normal
> > 25. - 29.9 Overweight
> > 30. and Above Obese
>
> Scratch the Underweight category. I doubt there is even 1 tenth of 1 percent of Masters Fatties
> that are below 18.5 BMI.

Or professional cyclists for that matter. You da RBR God.

On 14 Aug 2003 07:26:58 -0700, rondechumpion@aol.com (ronde chumpion) wrote:
>license with the correct category noted. All Category events will now only be open to riders aged
>24-29. This move is expected to bring the

Um, wouldn't that be 23-29 (U23 is the other category, no?).

Good troll though.

Thanks, Ronde Chimp

"Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Scratch the Underweight category. I doubt there is even 1 tenth of 1
percent
> of Masters Fatties that are below 18.5 BMI.

What's your BMI?

Dashii

"Dashi Toshii" <Toshii@Jpn.com> wrote in message news:UMacnV4wIN5J3aGiXTWJjQ@comcast.com...
>
> "Kurgan Gringioni" <kgringioni.remove.it.for.mail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:czU_a.2035$Nc.1133581@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> >
> > Scratch the Underweight category. I doubt there is even 1 tenth of 1
> percent
> > of Masters Fatties that are below 18.5 BMI.
>
> What's your BMI?

Much higher than yours.

24-24.5

I'd like it to be lower. Hats off to you for maintaining your very low BMI.

"Tom Schulenburg" <tschulenYour@Hatpacbell.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Crank Yanker" <rosed123@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:f4c1d04c.0308141105.50c1a259@posting.google.com...
> > >All Category events will now only be open to riders aged 24-29.
> >
> > I'd hate to be an espoir or junior, as this will substantially cut down on the races available
> > to them, unless there's a huge upswell in the offering of these classes. I would thing the racer
> > demographics in most areas of the country would make these classes prohibitive, as surely every
> > race is now going to have to have multiple masters classes to accomodate all the "old" guys.
> >
> > What if you're in part of the country where master's races are 35+? I guess you don't get
> > to race.
>
> Latest word is that Masters categories will be based on BMI :
>
> Below 18.5 Underweight
> 18.5 - 24.9 Normal
> 25. - 29.9 Overweight
> 30. and Above Obese
>
> -T
>
>
There is yet another relevant category: DOWNHILL SPRINTER

In article <3f3d030a$0$64925$a726171b@news.hal-pc.org>, Bruce Gilbert <bgilbert@hal-pc.org> wrote:

> "Tom Schulenburg" <tschulenYour@Hatpacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:U5T_a.504$iZ.112@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> > "Crank Yanker" <rosed123@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:f4c1d04c.0308141105.50c1a259@posting.google.com...
> > > >All Category events will now only be open to riders aged 24-29.
> > >
> > > I'd hate to be an espoir or junior, as this will substantially cut down on the races available
> > > to them, unless there's a huge upswell in the offering of these classes. I would thing the
> > > racer demographics in most areas of the country would make these classes prohibitive, as
> > > surely every race is now going to have to have multiple masters classes to accomodate all the
> > > "old" guys.
> > >
> > > What if you're in part of the country where master's races are 35+? I guess you don't get to
> > > race.
> >
> > Latest word is that Masters categories will be based on BMI :
> >
> > Below 18.5 Underweight
> > 18.5 - 24.9 Normal
> > 25. - 29.9 Overweight
> > 30. and Above Obese
> >
> > -T
> >
> >
> There is yet another relevant category: DOWNHILL SPRINTER

Please take your post to rec.bicycles.mountain-bike

<snippage>

>>There is yet another relevant category: DOWNHILL SPRINTER
>
>
> Please take your post to rec.bicycles.mountain-bike
</snippage>

No... I believe that Fat Masters going down the road feeling fast is a legit
catagorization...... ]