It's very interesting doing the compare-and-contrast thing with different language editions of
Eurosport. A few days ago I mentioned that LANCE's probable retirement in 2004 made the French and
Italian editions, but not the English one (it has since been added). In any event, today's Italian
edition has this story:

http://www.eurosport.com/static_file...p?langueid=4&s
portid=18&storyid=370012&Gener=true

which, roughly translated, says that VDB was caught DUI last weekend with a blood alcohol level
about three times the legal limit. He was driving home after a party in Brussels at 3am without
headlights.

BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he wanted to. When she finally
"agreed" he took off without her.

FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's farewell gig, where lots of cyclists
drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist Lefevere says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont
mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the DUI more harshly

"Bart" <bart.vanhoorebeeck@NOTRASHpandora.be> wrote in message
news:I1nM9.60087$Ti2.9026@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
wanted
> to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
>
> FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's farewell gig, where lots of
> cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
Lefevere
> says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the DUI
> more harshly

A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on Lefevere.

Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.

How can anyone support this man anymore?

Bart wrote:
> BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he wanted to. When she finally
> "agreed" he took off without her.
>
> FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's farewell gig, where lots of
> cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist Lefevere says: "this time of the year, most
> cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the DUI more harshly

http://www.procycling.com/news_main.asp?newsId=4188 I found the last line of their article humorous.
'No word yet on whether Vandenbroucke’s dog was in any way involved in the incident.'
psb

"Sparhawk" <Sparhawk@myway.com> wrote in message news:u3d40v0tmh8an6f3kq4i3ul7l09c61toql@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:51:23 GMT, "Canuck" <warmsd@simpatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Bart" <bart.vanhoorebeeck@NOTRASHpandora.be> wrote in message
> >news:I1nM9.60087$Ti2.9026@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> >> BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
> >wanted
> >> to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
> >>
> >> FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
farewell
> >> gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
> >Lefevere
> >> says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the
> >> DUI more harshly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on
> >Lefevere.
> >
> >Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
> >
> >
> >
> >How can anyone support this man anymore?
>
> I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy to
> support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the **** hits the fan and one of
> these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
>
> No one is perfect including you and me. <g>

Supporting someone after the first ****up is OK. After the second ****up is OK.

After the 10th ****up and leaving the wife on the side of the road, it's no longer OK. VdB keeps
screwing up because he never has to pay any real consequences.

"Sparhawk" <Sparhawk@myway.com> wrote in message news:u3d40v0tmh8an6f3kq4i3ul7l09c61toql@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:51:23 GMT, "Canuck" <warmsd@simpatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Bart" <bart.vanhoorebeeck@NOTRASHpandora.be> wrote in message
> >news:I1nM9.60087$Ti2.9026@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> >> BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
> >wanted
> >> to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
> >>
> >> FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
farewell
> >> gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
> >Lefevere
> >> says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the
> >> DUI more harshly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on
> >Lefevere.
> >
> >Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
> >
> >
> >
> >How can anyone support this man anymore?
>
> I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy to
> support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the **** hits the fan and one of
> these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
>
> No one is perfect including you and me. <g>
>
> Sparhawk
>

How much would you support him if you or a loved one were riding your bike on the same road as he
while he was driving like that?

"Sparhawk" <Sparhawk@myway.com> wrote in message news:u3d40v0tmh8an6f3kq4i3ul7l09c61toql@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:51:23 GMT, "Canuck" <warmsd@simpatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Bart" <bart.vanhoorebeeck@NOTRASHpandora.be> wrote in message
> >news:I1nM9.60087$Ti2.9026@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> >> BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
> >wanted
> >> to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
> >>
> >> FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
farewell
> >> gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
> >Lefevere
> >> says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the
> >> DUI more harshly
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on
> >Lefevere.
> >
> >Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
> >
> >
> >
> >How can anyone support this man anymore?
>
> I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy to
> support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the **** hits the fan and one of
> these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
>
> No one is perfect including you and me. <g>

Not true!!! Sharon Peters is perfect!

Brian Lafferty

"Brian Lafferty" <javaeye@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VJqM9.1048$_V5.91391@newsread2.....earthlink.net...
>
>
> "Sparhawk" <Sparhawk@myway.com> wrote in message
> news:u3d40v0tmh8an6f3kq4i3ul7l09c61toql@4ax.com...
> > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:51:23 GMT, "Canuck" <warmsd@simpatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Bart" <bart.vanhoorebeeck@NOTRASHpandora.be> wrote in message
> > >news:I1nM9.60087$Ti2.9026@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> > >> BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
> > >wanted
> > >> to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
> > >>
> > >> FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
> farewell
> > >> gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
> > >Lefevere
> > >> says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned
> > >> the DUI more harshly
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on
> > >Lefevere.
> > >
> > >Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >How can anyone support this man anymore?
> >
> > I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy
> > to support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the **** hits the fan and
> > one of these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
> >
> > No one is perfect including you and me. <g>
>
> Not true!!! Sharon Peters is perfect!

She's not perfect. She's no 12 year old boy.

Allegedly, Ronde Champ

> >
> > No one is perfect including you and me. <g>
>
> Not true!!! Sharon Peters is perfect!
>
> Brian Lafferty
>

Which Sharon Peters? This one: http://www.queenmother.tv/nycgirl/sharon/shar.html ?

Robin

On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 04:13:58 GMT, "jomama" <jomama@jomamas.mama> wrote:

>
>"Sparhawk" <Sparhawk@myway.com> wrote in message news:u3d40v0tmh8an6f3kq4i3ul7l09c61toql@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:51:23 GMT, "Canuck" <warmsd@simpatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Bart" <bart.vanhoorebeeck@NOTRASHpandora.be> wrote in message
>> >news:I1nM9.60087$Ti2.9026@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
>> >> BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
>> >wanted
>> >> to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
>> >>
>> >> FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
>farewell
>> >> gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
>> >Lefevere
>> >> says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned the
>> >> DUI more harshly
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on
>> >Lefevere.
>> >
>> >Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >How can anyone support this man anymore?
>>
>> I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy
>> to support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the **** hits the fan and one
>> of these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
>>
>> No one is perfect including you and me. <g>
>>
>> Sparhawk
>>
>
>How much would you support him if you or a loved one were riding your bike on the same road as he
>while he was driving like that?

I'm not saying that what he did is right but he doesn't deserve the death penality either.

He didn't kill or injure anyone did he?

Even our President Bush was arrested for DUI. <g>

Sparhawk

Yeah, that would be a real bummer ending to one of my frequent 1-4am training rides

- Boyd S.

"jomama" <jomama@jomamas.mama> wrote in news:aOwM9.815$wP4.67581021@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:

<snip>

> How much would you support him if you or a loved one were riding your bike on the same road as he
> while he was driving like that?

Riders should stay single. The list of misdemeanours where wives were involved is getting longer:

Mrs Rumsas + mother-in-law (double points) VDB and his wife (and his dog) That chick with the
pom-poms who took out Boogerd on the climb Not forgetting Coppi's mistress.

Stay single and keep your crank polished, is the best advice.

"ronde champ" <ronde_champ@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:attduq$ova$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
>
> "Brian Lafferty" <javaeye@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:VJqM9.1048$_V5.91391@newsread2.....earthlink.net...
> > Not true!!! Sharon Peters is perfect!
>
> She's not perfect. She's no 12 year old boy.

For those of you who were unsure of Palachick.

"Robin" <robin@nospam.nl> wrote in message news:2ktM9.59487$4B2.6235762@amsnews03.chello.com...
> > >
> > > No one is perfect including you and me. <g>
> >
> > Not true!!! Sharon Peters is perfect!
> >
> > Brian Lafferty
> >
>
> Which Sharon Peters? This one: http://www.queenmother.tv/nycgirl/sharon/shar.html ?
>
> Robin

On the left hand side of the linked page.....ALL of them. Try clicking on an image.

Sparhawk <Sparhawk@myway.com> wrote in message news:<n3d50v0s5bdjjblqssr1ucb96kkl50rt36@4ax.com>...
> On Fri, 20 Dec 2002 04:13:58 GMT, "jomama" <jomama@jomamas.mama> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Sparhawk" <Sparhawk@myway.com> wrote in message
> >news:u3d40v0tmh8an6f3kq4i3ul7l09c61toql@4ax.com...
> >> On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 17:51:23 GMT, "Canuck" <warmsd@simpatico.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Bart" <bart.vanhoorebeeck@NOTRASHpandora.be> wrote in message
> >> >news:I1nM9.60087$Ti2.9026@afrodite.telenet-ops.be...
> >> >> BAD and omitted: his wife hade been driving and he said he argued he
> wanted
> >> >> to. When she finally "agreed" he took off without her.
> >> >>
> >> >> FOR THE DEFENSE: no loose partying, he was coming from Lapage's
> farewell
> >> >> gig, where lots of cyclists drank alcohol. Or as eternal apologist
> Lefevere
> >> >> says: "this time of the year, most cyclists dont mind a few drinks". Museeuw had condemned
> >> >> the DUI more harshly
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >A borderline DUI can be harmless, but 3 times the legal limit is not defensible. Shame on
> >> >Lefevere.
> >> >
> >> >Leaving the wife isn't defensible either.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >How can anyone support this man anymore?
> >>
> >> I support him, this is probably the time in his life that he needs support the most! It is easy
> >> to support Lance Armstrong and other "good guys" of racing but when the **** hits the fan and
> >> one of these guys get into trouble it is no time to not to support them.
> >>
> >> No one is perfect including you and me. <g>
> >>
> >> Sparhawk
> >>
> >
> >How much would you support him if you or a loved one were riding your bike on the same road as he
> >while he was driving like that?
>
> I'm not saying that what he did is right but he doesn't deserve the death penality either.
>
> He didn't kill or injure anyone did he?

Who cares whether he killed anyone or not. Did his driving violate the center line rule?

-RJ