Politically Incorrect. - Page 2

"G.T." <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> > All ethnic jokes are racist by definition.
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> racist: 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability

The original 'joke' did exactly that, trying to highlight a difference in ability, in that
particular case, the ability to correctly prounounce English words.

"Canuck" <warmsd@simpatico.ca> wrote in message
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> "G.T." <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> > > All ethnic jokes are racist by definition.
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> >
> > racist: 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability
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> The original 'joke' did exactly that, trying to highlight a difference in ability, in that
> particular case, the ability to correctly prounounce English words.

I think that this pretty much highlights the disgust I feel for the politically correct. They are
not motivated by a sense of fairness but instead only by hatred of someone else.

You see, like Kyle, this other Canadian thinks that there must be something wrong with Chinese is
they can't pronounce English words correctly. It never occurs to them that all of the scientific
research on language shows that after the age of 6 or so the larynix and tongue become unable to
make sounds different than they have been making.

What is a humorous sound to most others becomes a source of hatred to them. I can only wonder what
their lives must have been like growing up. Did the little French speakers make fun of your attempts
at French?

But you see, if it were a joke making fun of the pronouciation by some white southern cracker
it would be OK. And exactly the same joke, making fun of the accent of a black southerner who
said exactly the same thing in exactly the same way as Senator Robert Byrd might have said is
racial bigotry.

The politically correct, and especially those Canadians who think that they ought to be able to tell
Americans how they should think are pretty funny as well. Who else but a Canadian would espouse the
wonderful Canadian healthcare system to the world while their entire family is flocking over the
border to get up-to-date and punctual medical care?

Canuck wrote:
> "Tom Kunich" <tkunich@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>"Kyle Legate" <legatek@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca> wrote in message
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>>>On 27 Dec 2002, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Now your blind need to find racism where none exists has crossed the boundaries.
>>>>
>>>
>>>What do you call it when a specific ethnicity is absolutely required for
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> a
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>>>joke to make sense?
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>>What do you call it when someone is willing to make an insult out of something that isn't and was
>>never intended to be?
>
>
> All ethnic jokes are racist by definition.
>

racist: 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a
particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

I really don't see a joke about ethnicity being included in the definition of racist. Doesn't offend
me in the least when people make fun of whitey. There's lots to make fun of us.

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> Affirmative action is also racist by definition.

Yes, depending on the implementation of affirmative action it could easily be considered racist.

Greg
--
"Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late, the battles we fought were long and hard,
just not to be consumed by rock n' roll..." - The Mekons

Canuck wrote:
> "G.T." <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>>All ethnic jokes are racist by definition.
>>>
>>
>>racist: 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability
>
>
>
>
>
> The original 'joke' did exactly that, trying to highlight a difference in ability, in that
> particular case, the ability to correctly prounounce English words.
>

Please, people make fun of my valley dude accent all the time. It's a harmless comment on a harmless
matter that is harmful to no one and has nothing to do with racism. BFD. I'd fully expect the French
to laugh at my poor pronunciation of their language, is that racism? Whitey laughing at whitey?

I think you should focus your efforts on more severe cases of racism, like people missing out on
housing or jobs because of their race or religion.

Greg

--
"Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late, the battles we fought were long and hard,
just not to be consumed by rock n' roll..." - The Mekons

"Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> But you see, if it were a joke making fun of the pronouciation by some white southern cracker it
> would be OK.

That would be the same thing as the original joke.

"G.T." <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> I think you should focus your efforts on more severe cases of racism, like people missing out on
> housing or jobs because of their race or religion.

Rule #1 from Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People": tell them what you think
they should be doing with their own time.

Canuck wrote:
> "G.T." <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>I think you should focus your efforts on more severe cases of racism, like people missing out on
>>housing or jobs because of their race or religion.
>
>
>
>
> Rule #1 from Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People": tell them what you think
> they should be doing with their own time.
>

Pot-kettle-black?

Greg

--
"Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late, the battles we fought were long and hard,
just not to be consumed by rock n' roll..." - The Mekons

"G.T." <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Canuck wrote:
> > "G.T." <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> > news:j3OP9.2186$hW1.1276@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> >
> >
> >>I think you should focus your efforts on more severe cases of racism,
like
> >>people missing out on housing or jobs because of their race or religion.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rule #1 from Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People":
tell
> > them what you think they should be doing with their own time.
> >
>
> Pot-kettle-black?

Not at all.

I commented on the posts in this thread, never did I tell anyone what they should do.

"G.T." <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:KERP9.3$w01.2@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
> Canuck wrote:
>
> Not explicitly, but your intentions speak louder than words. You and the other overly-PC people
> out there are telling us to be humorless with our own time.

Read the original post. I said ethnic jokes are racist as well as affirmative action.

BTW, I think you should be free to do whatever you want with your own time.

Canuck wrote:
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>
> BTW, I think you should be free to do whatever you want with your own time.
>

Thank you.

Greg
--
"Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late, the battles we fought were long and hard,
just not to be consumed by rock n' roll..." - The Mekons

Dan Connelly wrote:
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>
> G.T. wrote:
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>>> Rule #1 from Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People": tell them what you think
>>> they should be doing with their own time.
>>>
>>
>> Pot-kettle-black?
>>
>
> Despite the rather crude, PI language, I found the following pretty funny :
> http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...compuserve.com
>

PI language? Wuzzat? Politically insensitive?

Greg

--
"Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late, the battles we fought were long and hard,
just not to be consumed by rock n' roll..." - The Mekons

"Dan Connelly" <djconnel@ieee.org> wrote in message news:3E1058C7.3010803@ieee.org...
>
>
> G.T. wrote:
> >> Rule #1 from Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People": tell them what you
> >> think they should be doing with their own time.
> >>
> >
> > Pot-kettle-black?
> >
>
> Despite the rather crude, PI language, I found the following pretty funny
:
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...aa.prod.compus erve.com
>
> Dan

Goddam right it's funny.

Thanks, Ronde Champ ron-day champ at yah-who dot com

Canuck wrote:
> "G.T." <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>>Canuck wrote:
>>
>>>"G.T." <ethan_t@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>>news:j3OP9.2186$hW1.1276@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I think you should focus your efforts on more severe cases of racism,
>
> like
>
>>>>people missing out on housing or jobs because of their race or religion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Rule #1 from Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People":
>
> tell
>
>>>them what you think they should be doing with their own time.
>>>
>>
>>Pot-kettle-black?
>
>
>
>
> Not at all.
>
> I commented on the posts in this thread, never did I tell anyone what they should do.
>

Not explicitly, but your intentions speak louder than words. You and the other overly-PC people out
there are telling us to be humorless with our own time.

Greg
--
"Destroy your safe and happy lives before it is too late, the battles we fought were long and hard,
just not to be consumed by rock n' roll..." - The Mekons

G.T. wrote:
>> Rule #1 from Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People": tell them what you think
>> they should be doing with their own time.
>>
>
> Pot-kettle-black?
>

Despite the rather crude, PI language, I found the following pretty funny :
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...compuserve.com

Dan

On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, Tom Kunich wrote:

> The pathetic part about all of this is the patent denial of Canadians when there is an entire
> market segment of the US health care system devoted entirely to Canadians.
>
So does this mean all those counterfeit Ontario Health Cards never get used? I don't deny that
Canadians head to the states for treatment under some circumstances, but you shouldn't deny that
Americans also head to Canada with their fake health cards when they want free treatment also.

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