I am writing an analytical report for my college english course and i was wondering if anyone out there has any good input...

My topic is basically the different materials that bicycle frame may be built with... i am trying to stick to the basic 3, aluminum, steel, and titanium, but if i need more information, which i think i might, ill dip into carbon fiber, scandium alloys, etc..

my report is going to be geared toward a ficitonal owner of a very wealthy bike shop who wants to buy alot of new bikes.. i would like to write my report to determine which material would be best for certain conditions. i have found some information, but i might not have the greatest resources...

if anyone out there knows of a good book or has any good tips, or any good websites, etc.. i would love to find out..

thanks,
lenny

"cyclinglenny" <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:3eee7d44_2@news.chariot.net.au...
> I am writing an analytical report for my college english course and i was wondering if anyone out
> there has any good input...
>
> My topic is basically the different materials that bicycle frame may be built with... i am trying
> to stick to the basic 3, aluminum, steel, and titanium, but if i need more information, which i
> think i might, ill dip into carbon fiber, scandium alloys, etc..
>
> my report is going to be geared toward a ficitonal owner of a very wealthy bike shop who wants to
> buy alot of new bikes.. i would like to write my report to determine which material would be best
> for certain conditions. i have found some information, but i might not have the greatest
> resources...
>
> if anyone out there knows of a good book or has any good tips, or any good websites, etc.. i would
> love to find out..
>
> thanks, lenny
>
This might be a place to start: www.torelli.com/tech/material.shtml

I have a tip for you. Try using your "shift" key.

frank

cyclinglenny <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:<3eee7d44_2@news.chariot.net.au>...
> I am writing an analytical report for my college english course and i was wondering if anyone out
> there has any good input...
>
> My topic is basically the different materials that bicycle frame may be built with... i am trying
> to stick to the basic 3, aluminum, steel, and titanium, but if i need more information, which i
> think i might, ill dip into carbon fiber, scandium alloys, etc..
>
> my report is going to be geared toward a ficitonal owner of a very wealthy bike shop who wants to
> buy alot of new bikes.. i would like to write my report to determine which material would be best
> for certain conditions. i have found some information, but i might not have the greatest
> resources...
>
> if anyone out there knows of a good book or has any good tips, or any good websites, etc.. i would
> love to find out..
>
> thanks, lenny

so says the man who calls himself "frank"

jon bond if it was good enough for e e cummings its good enough for me

"Frank Dickerson" <fdickerson1950@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I have a tip for you. Try using your "shift" key.
>
> frank
>
>
>
> cyclinglenny <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:<3eee7d44_2@news.chariot.net.au>...
> > I am writing an analytical report for my college english course and i was wondering if anyone
> > out there has any good input...
> >
> > My topic is basically the different materials that bicycle frame may be built with... i am
> > trying to stick to the basic 3, aluminum, steel, and titanium, but if i need more information,
> > which i think i might, ill dip into carbon fiber, scandium alloys, etc..
> >
> > my report is going to be geared toward a ficitonal owner of a very wealthy bike shop who wants
> > to buy alot of new bikes.. i would like to write my report to determine which material would be
> > best for certain conditions. i have found some information, but i might not have the greatest
> > resources...
> >
> > if anyone out there knows of a good book or has any good tips, or any good websites, etc.. i
> > would love to find out..
> >
> > thanks, lenny

"Jon Bond" <Jonathan.Bond@REMOVEtufts.edu> brightened my day with his incisive wit when in
news:riyHa.699813$Si4.819986@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net he conjectured that:

> so says the man who calls himself "frank"
>

*LOL* - well spotted. Watch the top posting or frank will hand your ass back on a plate for
that too

--
Walter Mitty.

You might want to try the Bicycle Framebuilders List.

http://www.phred.org/mailman/listinfo/framebuilders

You can both search their archives and ask questions.

Lewis.

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cyclinglenny <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
news:<3eee7d44_2@news.chariot.net.au>...
> I am writing an analytical report for my college english course and i was wondering if anyone out
> there has any good input...
>
> My topic is basically the different materials that bicycle frame may be built with... i am trying
> to stick to the basic 3, aluminum, steel, and titanium, but if i need more information, which i
> think i might, ill dip into carbon fiber, scandium alloys, etc..
>
> my report is going to be geared toward a ficitonal owner of a very wealthy bike shop who wants to
> buy alot of new bikes.. i would like to write my report to determine which material would be best
> for certain conditions. i have found some information, but i might not have the greatest
> resources...
>
> if anyone out there knows of a good book or has any good tips, or any good websites, etc.. i would
> love to find out..
>
> thanks, lenny

Walter Mitty wrote:
> "Jon Bond" <Jonathan.Bond@REMOVEtufts.edu> brightened my day with his incisive wit when in
> news:riyHa.699813$Si4.819986@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net he conjectured that:
>
>
>>so says the man who calls himself "frank"
>>
>
> *LOL* - well spotted. Watch the top posting or frank will hand your ass back on a plate for
> that too

Except "frank" top posted as well.

--
A. Top posters
B. What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 06:11:35 GMT, "Jon Bond" <Jonathan.Bond@REMOVEtufts.edu> wrote:

>if it was good enough for e e cummings its good enough for me

Right. Because being forced to read e e cummings isn't the epitome of torture, or anything.

Jasper

In article <3eee7d44_2@news.chariot.net.au>, usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com says...
>
>
>I am writing an analytical report for my college english course and i was wondering if anyone out
>there has any good input...
>
>My topic is basically the different materials that bicycle frame may be built with... i am trying
>to stick to the basic 3, aluminum, steel, and titanium, but if i need more information, which i
>think i might, ill dip into carbon fiber, scandium alloys, etc..

Scandium is an aluminum alloy, so that is not a new category. Carbon fiber should be added.

>my report is going to be geared toward a ficitonal owner of a very wealthy bike shop who wants to
>buy alot of new bikes.. i would like to write my report to determine which material would be best
>for certain conditions. i have found some information, but i might not have the greatest
>resources...

It's not the material. It's how it is used.
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Alex __O _-\<,_ (_)/ (_)

On 17 Jun 2003 12:00:28 +0950, cyclinglenny <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote:

>I am writing an analytical report for my college english course and i was wondering if anyone out
>there has any good input...

Here's my unbiased info, frame material matters much less than tubing specifications. Tube diameter
and wall thickness effect frame stiffness and weight, and by implication ride quality, much more
than material. Then add rubber tires filled with air and the contribution of the frame is reduced to
a seconday effect.

Not what bike manufacturer's marketing departments want to hear.

jeverett3<AT>earthlink<DOT>net http://home.earthlink.net/~jeverett3

> jon bond if it was good enough for e e cummings its good enough for me
>

According to the E. E. Cummings Society ( http://www.gvsu.edu/english/cummings/Index.htm ), you are
to capitalize his name in the conventional method. http://www.gvsu.edu/english/cummings/caps.htm

frank -with a small case "f".

Walter Mitty <no@no.com> wrote in message news:<Xns939D669FDB82Awaltermitty@127.0.0.1>...
> "Jon Bond" <Jonathan.Bond@REMOVEtufts.edu> brightened my day with his incisive wit when in
> news:riyHa.699813$Si4.819986@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net he conjectured that:
>
> > so says the man who calls himself "frank"
> >
>
> *LOL* - well spotted. Watch the top posting or frank will hand your ass back on a plate for
> that too

Top, bottom, I don't care! ...And I'm not referring to where you post.

Anyhow, where you post ain't one of my pet peeves.

frank

"Walter Mitty" <no@no.com> wrote in message news:Xns939D669FDB82Awaltermitty@127.0.0.1...
> "Jon Bond" <Jonathan.Bond@REMOVEtufts.edu> brightened my day with his incisive wit when in
> news:riyHa.699813$Si4.819986@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net he conjectured that:
>
> > so says the man who calls himself "frank"
> >
>
> *LOL* - well spotted. Watch the top posting or frank will hand your ass back on a plate for
> that too
>
> --
> Walter Mitty.

I only top posted because Frank... er, excuse me - because frank top posted. Its a heck of a lot
easier to follow a conversation if it sticks to one scheme rather than jumps back and forth a lot.
Technically, I should move his post.... but I'm a lazy SOB.

Jon Bond

"Jay Hill" <jshill@stic.net> wrote in message news:3eeef67c$0$839$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net...
> Walter Mitty wrote:
> > "Jon Bond" <Jonathan.Bond@REMOVEtufts.edu> brightened my day with his incisive wit when in
> > news:riyHa.699813$Si4.819986@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net he conjectured that:
> >
> >
> >>so says the man who calls himself "frank"
> >>
> >
> > *LOL* - well spotted. Watch the top posting or frank will hand your ass back on a plate for that
> > too
>
> Except "frank" top posted as well.
>
>
> --

> A. Top posters
> Q. What is the most annoying thing on Usenet?

Hey, its just like Jeopardy!

Jon Bond

cyclinglenny <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
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> if anyone out there knows of a good book or has any good tips, or any good websites, etc.. i would
> love to find out..
>
> thanks, lenny

I think what you have seen in the first few responses is indicative of the nature of the question:
there is no such thing as 'unbiased' info on the topic. It is rife with personal prejudices, some
based on experience. Someone has pointed you to the archive of the framebuilders list, but you will
find that slanted, too, as that is mainly populated by folks who believe (rightly so, IMO) that
steel is the best material. There really is no single answer, and design is overall more important
than material. In the end biases are all you will find and your conclusions will be based on
subjective rather than objective criteria. Will that be OK for your project.

- rick warner