Sestriere wheels: spoke length?

Hi, what is the length of the spokes used in the Rolf Sestriere rear wheel? Is there a away to
directly buy the rim and spokes without going through a LBS? Thanks!

> Hi, what is the length of the spokes used in the Rolf Sestriere rear
wheel?
> Is there a away to directly buy the rim and spokes without going through a LBS? Thanks!

Not at the shop right now so I don't have the lengths handy, but they're actually printed on the
decal on the side of the rim (how's that for handy?). As for buying them, the spokes are no big
deal, you can buy any similar spoke of the correct length, but the rim can only be purchased through
a TREK (or LeMond or Fisher or Klein) dealership.

There is, however, a very specific method of stress-relieving the spokes, which involves a special
contraption that looks like the top of a garbage can that you place the wheel onto, with an arm that
goes over the top and a way to apply a very precise amount of load to the side. Without appropriate
stress-relieving, spoke life will be pretty short.

Please note that the Sestriere wheel is close to being in the stupid-light category; for "sturdier"
riders we've found it necessary to rebuild them with heavier spokes. One option I haven't tried yet
is to build one up with the newer offset-spoke type of rim used on the Bontrager wheelsets. The
advantage is more equal spoke tension between the two sides.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

Mike J-<< There is, however, a very specific method of stress-relieving the spokes, which involves a
special contraption that looks like the top of a garbage can that you place the wheel onto,
>><BR><BR>

DDoooohhh-I won't say it!!!..Tongue pressing hard into cheek!!!

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> DDoooohhh-I won't say it!!!..Tongue pressing hard into cheek!!!

Thought I might have a bit of fun seeing if you took the bait!

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

> Not at the shop right now so I don't have the lengths handy, but they're actually printed on the
> decal on the side of the rim (how's that for handy?).

Thanks Mike. Looking at the decals, I see 2083m. Is that the spoke length??? Both the front as well
as the rear wheels use spokes of the same length?

> > DDoooohhh-I won't say it!!!..Tongue pressing hard into cheek!!!
>
> Thought I might have a bit of fun seeing if you took the bait!

Am I missing something here? hahahaha

"Chuck Liu" <cliu01@comcast.net> wrote:

> > Not at the shop right now so I don't have the lengths handy, but they're actually printed on the
> > decal on the side of the rim (how's that for handy?).
>
> Thanks Mike. Looking at the decals, I see 2083m. Is that the spoke length??? Both the front as
> well as the rear wheels use spokes of the same length?

Chuck, Chuck, Chuck. Think a moment. Spokes that long would be for rims over 4000 m in diameter.
That's two and half miles.

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"Ted Bennett" <tedbennett@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "Chuck Liu" <cliu01@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > > Not at the shop right now so I don't have the lengths handy, but
they're
> > > actually printed on the decal on the side of the rim (how's that for handy?).
> >
> > Thanks Mike. Looking at the decals, I see 2083m. Is that the spoke length??? Both the front as
> > well as the rear wheels use spokes of the
same
> > length?
>
>
>
> Chuck, Chuck, Chuck. Think a moment. Spokes that long would be for rims over 4000 m in diameter.
> That's two and half miles.
>
> --
> Ted Bennett Portland OR

Sooo, that's what the new wheels will be like!!!

Bruce

Mike:

An old wa to stress relieve wheels that I learned was to put the place one end of the rim on the
ground and put pressure on the other end, and rotate the wheel until you got all the spokes to
go "ping".

I am not sure if this was some fantasy method or a real one, sine I now stress relieve by pressing
parallel spokes.

Was the old method useful? Would it work on rolfs?

Placing the wheel on the ground and pushing down on the edges was pretty common practice back in
the day, and seemed to do a relatively decent job, although I have a feeling what it was best at
was unloading sections of the rim so the spokes could unwind. On a wheel that's built with
conservative components, it's probably OK, but you run a risk of doing the taco-thing if you're not
very, very careful.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles http://www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

"AndresMuro" <andresmuro@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Mike:
>
> An old wa to stress relieve wheels that I learned was to put the place one
end
> of the rim on the ground and put pressure on the other end, and rotate the wheel until you got all
> the spokes to go "ping".
>
> I am not sure if this was some fantasy method or a real one, sine I now
stress
> relieve by pressing parallel spokes.
>
> Was the old method useful? Would it work on rolfs?

AndresMuro wrote:

> An old wa to stress relieve wheels that I learned was to put the place one end of the rim on the
> ground and put pressure on the other end, and rotate the wheel until you got all the spokes to
> go "ping".

That's not stress releiving, that's merely taking out the spoke wind-up caused by tightening spoke
nipples without backing them off.
--
terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://www.terrymorse.com/bike/

andresmuro@aol.com (AndresMuro) wrote in message
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> Mike:
>
> An old wa to stress relieve wheels that I learned was to put the place one end of the rim on the
> ground and put pressure on the other end, and rotate the wheel until you got all the spokes to
> go "ping".

That sounds like a way of removing spoke wind-up.

Art Harris

Thanks, I haven't done that in a long time. A mechanic that showed me how to build wheels showed me
how to do this. It was kind of cool to do it since it made a great sound. I really didn't know what
it did to the wheel. After reading Jobst book, I squeeze parallel spokes. I don't know what it does,
but I know that my wheels stay true. I really wouldn't know how to do this to a Rolf wheel.

I am still waiting for the subtle insult from an eager engineer for my misinformed comment.

Andres

n2ah@yahoo.com (Art Harris) wrote in message
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> andresmuro@aol.com (AndresMuro) wrote in message
> news:<20030804084518.18070.00001130@mb-m17.aol.com>...
> > Mike:
> >
> > An old wa to stress relieve wheels that I learned was to put the place one end of the rim on the
> > ground and put pressure on the other end, and rotate the wheel until you got all the spokes to
> > go "ping".
>
> That sounds like a way of removing spoke wind-up.
>
> Art Harris

In article <b2d4101f.0308041250.1fff8b45@posting.google.com>, andresmuro@aol.com (andres
muro) wrote:

> Thanks, I haven't done that in a long time. A mechanic that showed me how to build wheels showed
> me how to do this. It was kind of cool to do it since it made a great sound. I really didn't know
> what it did to the wheel. After reading Jobst book, I squeeze parallel spokes. I don't know what
> it does, but I know that my wheels stay true.

If you don't know what it does, then you didn't read the book.

> I am still waiting for the subtle insult from an eager engineer for my misinformed comment.
>
> Andres

Sorry, you'll have to wait for Jobst. I'm not an engineer.

--
Ted Bennett Portland OR

On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 03:29:14 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> may have said:

>> Thanks Mike. Looking at the decals, I see 2083m. Is that the spoke length??? Both the front as
>> well as the rear wheels use spokes of the
>same
>> length?
>
>As pointed out elsewhere in this thread, those would be pretty long spokes! I didn't get a chance
>to check at the shop, but I think that zero (in 2083) isn't supposed to be there.

And I think there may be a second "m" needed, too.

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