I am a mountain biker in the market for a road bike. I want to check out some bike shops in the
Toronto area later this week to compare prices, features, etc. One brand I am particulary interested
in is Cervelo, particularly the Team Soloist and the Super Prodigy (maybe even the R2.5 if I could
get it with Ultegra components for no more than $3500, but maybe that is wishful thinking, hehe). I
know that Racer Sportif on Bloor sells Cervelos, and I think Dukes might sell them too; anywhere
else? Are there any other places around Toronto where I could find a good quality road bike for
between $3000 and $3500 Canadian? It doesn't necessarily have to be Cervelo, I am willing to
consider other brands within this price range.

J. Spaceman

On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 11:13:25 GMT, Jason Spaceman <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast> wrote:

>I am a mountain biker in the market for a road bike. I want to check out some bike shops in the
>Toronto area later this week to compare prices, features, etc. One brand I am particulary
>interested in is Cervelo, particularly the Team Soloist and the Super Prodigy (maybe even the R2.5
>if I could get it with Ultegra components for no more than $3500, but maybe that is wishful
>thinking, hehe). I know that Racer Sportif on Bloor sells Cervelos, and I think Dukes might sell
>them too; anywhere else? Are there any other places around Toronto where I could find a good
>quality road bike for between $3000 and $3500 Canadian? It doesn't necessarily have to be Cervelo,
>I am willing to consider other brands within this price range.
>
>
>J. Spaceman

Cervelo are made in Toronto up near Laird and Eglinton, I think they sell direct... There are lots
of decent shops in town, but personally I believe in buying a bike from a shop that you want a
relationship with (one convenient to where you live)... two that I have found to be excellent are
D'ornellas (sp?) Lawrence and Vic Park and Enduro Sport on Leslie.

Drop me an e-mail if you want ... the addi works.

I've had very good experiences with Labicicletta in Toronto (www.labicicletta.com). They have some
real gorgeous bikes on display.

"Jason Spaceman" <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast> wrote in message
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> I am a mountain biker in the market for a road bike. I want to check out some bike shops in the
> Toronto area later this week to compare prices, features, etc. One brand I am particulary
> interested in is Cervelo, particularly the Team Soloist and the Super Prodigy (maybe even the R2.5
> if I could get it with Ultegra components for no more than $3500, but maybe that is wishful
> thinking, hehe). I know that Racer Sportif on Bloor sells Cervelos, and I think Dukes might sell
> them too; anywhere else? Are there any other places around Toronto where I could find a good
quality
> road bike for between $3000 and $3500 Canadian? It doesn't necessarily have to be Cervelo, I am
> willing to consider other brands within this
price
> range.
>
>
> J. Spaceman

Jason Spaceman <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast> writes:
> I know that Racer Sportif on Bloor sells Cervelos, and I think Dukes might sell them too;
> anywhere else?

I do not have experience buying bikes in that high price range, but when I bought a cheap
Specialized bike at Dukes I was extremely happy with the service.

Chris
--
Chris Colohan Email: chris@colohan.ca PGP: finger colohan@cs.cmu.edu Web: www.colohan.com Phone:
(412)268-4751

KJB wrote:

> I've had very good experiences with Labicicletta in Toronto (www.labicicletta.com). They have some
> real gorgeous bikes on display.

Their web site says they are located on Castlefield, I always thought that they were that shop
located on Bloor, just east of Racer Sportif, on the south side of Bloor. But I guess they aren't.

Does anyone know the name of that place (on the south side of Bloor)? I've driven by it a few times
but I've never been inside it, although from the street I noticed that they had some good quality
road bikes on display in their front window.

J. Spaceman

ajames54 wrote:

> Cervelo are made in Toronto up near Laird and Eglinton, I think they sell direct... There are lots
> of decent shops in town, but personally I believe in buying a bike from a shop that you want a
> relationship with (one convenient to where you live)... two that I have found to be excellent are
> D'ornellas (sp?) Lawrence and Vic Park and Enduro Sport on Leslie.
>
> Drop me an e-mail if you want ... the addi works.

Cervelo sells direct? Hmmmmm. Do they have a shop located at their head offices (their web site says
they are located on Industrial St. which is in East York, I think). Would they sell to a lowly
consumer like myself, or do I have to be a dealer?

I'm out in Oshawa, the armpit of Canada, and there aren't a lot of good bike shops out here; just
used car and Harley dealerships :-). The few bike shops that we do have tend to deal mainly in
mountain bikes and do not offer a huge selection when it comes to road bikes.

J. Spaceman

On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 11:13:25 GMT, Jason Spaceman <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast> doth put forth:

>I am a mountain biker in the market for a road bike. I want to check out some bike shops in the
>Toronto area later this week to compare prices, features, etc. One brand I am particulary
>interested in is Cervelo, particularly the Team Soloist and the Super Prodigy (maybe even the R2.5
>if I could get it with Ultegra components for no more than $3500, but maybe that is wishful
>thinking, hehe). I know that Racer Sportif on Bloor sells Cervelos, and I think Dukes might sell
>them too; anywhere else? Are there any other places around Toronto where I could find a good
>quality road bike for between $3000 and $3500 Canadian? It doesn't necessarily have to be Cervelo,
>I am willing to consider other brands within this price range.
>
>
>J. Spaceman

I bought mine here:

<www.pavancycle.com>

Derek
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"Derek Lloyd" <derelictDELETE@interlog.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 11:13:25 GMT, Jason Spaceman <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast> doth put forth:
>
>
> I bought mine here:
>
> <www.pavancycle.com>
>
> Derek
> --
> Derek Lloyd derelict@interlog.com <*>

Tony Pavan is great guy and he has great bikes, being the importer of Pinarello. Unfortunately for
Jason, he's at the 401 and Renforth..a bit of a hike! But yeah, I know Tony and I'd direct anyone
his way when I can. Nice guy and very skilled.

Cheers,

Scott..

"Jason Spaceman" <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast> wrote in message
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>
> Their web site says they are located on Castlefield, I always thought that they were that shop
> located on Bloor, just east of Racer Sportif, on the south side of Bloor. But I guess they aren't.
>
> Does anyone know the name of that place (on the south side of Bloor)?
I've
> driven by it a few times but I've never been inside it, although from the street I noticed that
> they had some good quality road bikes on display in their front window.
>
>
> J. Spaceman
>

La Bicicletta used to be on the south side of Bloor just west of High Park, east of Racer, but they
have since moved. I've never really liked Racer..personal reasons from way back. But they do sell
high-end stuff. D'Ornellas is nice and Eon is a nice guy.

Scott..

"Jason Spaceman" <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast> wrote in message
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>
> Cervelo sells direct? Hmmmmm. Do they have a shop located at their head offices (their web site
> says they are located on Industrial St. which is
in
> East York, I think). Would they sell to a lowly consumer like myself, or do I have to be a dealer?
>
> I'm out in Oshawa, the armpit of Canada, and there aren't a lot of good
bike
> shops out here; just used car and Harley dealerships :-). The few bike shops that we do have tend
> to deal mainly in mountain bikes and do not offer a huge selection when it comes to road bikes.
>
>
>
> J. Spaceman
>
>

I think they sell direct. It'd be a great opportunity to head down there and check out their place.
They'd be more than happy to help you out I'm sure and you can see their operation. Oshawa isn't the
armpit of Canada...Welland is!!! ;-) Or is Welland the arsehole of Canada?!?

Cheers,

Scott..

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 21:32:57 -0400, "S. Anderson" <scott.anderson3@zsympaticoz.ca> wrote:

>"Derek Lloyd" <derelictDELETE@interlog.com> wrote in message
>news:EYExP6XOKI9c=2Ae+DMYqU+QWP6Q@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 11:13:25 GMT, Jason Spaceman <I@eat.spammers.for.breakfast> doth put forth:
>>
>>
>> I bought mine here:
>>
>> <www.pavancycle.com>
>>
>> Derek
>> --
>> Derek Lloyd derelict@interlog.com <*>
>
>Tony Pavan is great guy and he has great bikes, being the importer of Pinarello. Unfortunately for
>Jason, he's at the 401 and Renforth..a bit of a hike! But yeah, I know Tony and I'd direct anyone
>his way when I can. Nice guy and very skilled.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Scott..

Would he have a Pinarello for between $3000 and $3500? :-) Any idea if the 'house brand' Pavan
is any good?

J. Spaceman

"Jason Spaceman" <IEatSpammersForBreakfast@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> Would he have a Pinarello for between $3000 and $3500? :-) Any idea if the 'house brand' Pavan is
> any good?
>
>
>
> J. Spaceman
>
>

I'm sure he has some nice Pinarellos...my road racing buddy has bought several there in the last few
years. I think he was in the $3500 range for his last one. Honestly, I'm not up on road stuff too
much, except my 20 year old Rossin that I keep clunking along with. As far as the Pavan brand, I
don't think they're in the same league as Cervelo or Pinarello. The frames are manufactured in Italy
somewhere by some third party builder so they may not be up to Pinarello quality. I'm not a big fan
of carbon stays on alu frames either so maybe I'm jaded. However, they're probably very well
assembled as they do good work at Pavan's. His shop is fairly small and aimed mostly at the road
racer: not a lot of recreational accessories or even clothing. If you're ever out that way I'd
recommend stopping in to see him or Don Zuck, his associate. But he's mostly about importing
Pinarellos.

Cheers,

Scott..

On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 09:04:58 -0400, ajames54 <ajames54@Hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Cervelo are made in Toronto up near Laird and Eglinton, I think they sell direct... There are lots
>of decent shops in town, but personally I believe in buying a bike from a shop that you want a
>relationship with (one convenient to where you live)... two that I have found to be excellent are
>D'ornellas (sp?) Lawrence and Vic Park and Enduro Sport on Leslie.
>
>Drop me an e-mail if you want ... the addi works.

I checked out D'Ornella's and Duke's on Thursday. The guy at D'Ornella's showed me a couple of
bikes that caught my interest. One was a Specialized Allez Pro w/ Dura-Ace. Something like this
model ---> http://www.specialized.com/SBCBkMode...ssionIdroot=p-
l43ihd8ox.j27004

I'm not too crazy about the Allez Pro's zebra stripe pattern, but it's no biggie. The componentry on
it is very nice though. The bike was regularly $3900 but was on for $3250 or thereabouts.

The other was a Giant TCR Composite 1, something like this ---> http://www.giant-bicycles.com/cn/03-
0.000.000/030.050.000.asp?dealerid=&dealercountry=&lYear=2003&bikesection=8805&r ange=82&model=9833

I like the fact that the bike is carbon fibre. It was on sale for around $2950 or so.

Duke's didn't seem to have as much of a selection within my price range, but they did have a
Cannondale R3000 ---> http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/03/c...del-3R3KD.html which, although out
of my price range with the Dura-Ace and all; the guy at the shop said that they might be able to
rebuild it with Ultegra to bring the price down. Or else order me an R2000.

Duke's also had a Trek 5200 -----> http://www.trekbikes.com/bikes/2003/road/5200.jsp for around
$3500 which caught my eye.

The only Cervelo I saw was at Duke's, and it was the P2K time trial bike. Does anyone know why
Cervelo puts Ultegra or Dura-Ace cranks, derailleurs, and shifters on their bikes; but they put on
'Cervelo' brand brake calipers? The brake calipers are completely black except for the Cervelo label
stamped on them. Are they any good?

D'Ornella's had this nice Orbea time trial bike, as well as an Orbea road frame in the Euskatel team
colours :-), which caught my eye.

At D'Ornella's the guy measured me and suggested that I would probably ride a 58cm frame, whereas at
Duke's the guy suggested that I would require something closer to 60cm or so, although he didn't
take my measurements and said that if I do decide to buy a bike they would take all my measurements
at that time, and put me on a trainer to observe my riding style, etc.

J. Spaceman

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:02:26 GMT, Jason Spaceman <IEatSpammersForBreakfast@rogers.com> wrote:

SNIP
>
>The only Cervelo I saw was at Duke's, and it was the P2K time trial bike. Does anyone know why
>Cervelo puts Ultegra or Dura-Ace cranks, derailleurs, and shifters on their bikes; but they put on
>'Cervelo' brand brake calipers? The brake calipers are completely black except for the Cervelo
>label stamped on them. Are they any good?

Good enough ... basically it will be a cost issue.. the tri and time trial bikes are built up with
aero-bars, and bar-con shifters rather than STI shifters. The break leavers they use are designed
for aero-bars (IIRC made by dia-comp) I don't know who makes the calipers, there are a couple of
companies who make quite acceptable "non-brand" brakes (they are not that technologically
challenging after all.)

>At D'Ornella's the guy measured me and suggested that I would probably ride a 58cm frame, whereas
>at Duke's the guy suggested that I would require something closer to 60cm or so, although he didn't
>take my measurements and said that if I do decide to buy a bike they would take all my measurements
>at that time, and put me on a trainer to observe my riding style, etc.
>
I would expect either shop to do basically the same thing... but I would lean towards D'Ornella's as
being the one that does the better job..

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 11:02:26 GMT, Jason Spaceman <IEatSpammersForBreakfast@rogers.com> wrote:

SNIP
>
>The only Cervelo I saw was at Duke's, and it was the P2K time trial bike. Does anyone know why
>Cervelo puts Ultegra or Dura-Ace cranks, derailleurs, and shifters on their bikes; but they put on
>'Cervelo' brand brake calipers? The brake calipers are completely black except for the Cervelo
>label stamped on them. Are they any good?

Good enough ... basically it will be a cost issue.. the tri and time trial bikes are built up with
aero-bars, and bar-con shifters rather than STI shifters. The break leavers they use are designed
for aero-bars (IIRC made by dia-comp) I don't know who makes the calipers, there are a couple of
companies who make quite acceptable "non-brand" brakes (they are not that technologically
challenging after all.)

>At D'Ornella's the guy measured me and suggested that I would probably ride a 58cm frame, whereas
>at Duke's the guy suggested that I would require something closer to 60cm or so, although he didn't
>take my measurements and said that if I do decide to buy a bike they would take all my measurements
>at that time, and put me on a trainer to observe my riding style, etc.
>
I would expect either shop to do basically the same thing... but I would lean towards D'Ornella's as
being the one that does the better job..