water in frame

I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has a
flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the frame. I
unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1 pound of
water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed it but again got caught during a
storm and again got water in the frame. Has anyone else had this problem and what is the solution
(aside from not riding in the rain) and replacing the seatpost

thanks

I mean to say "I removed the bottom bracket and re-greased it......." not regressed

"Paul" <yetixtr_NOSPAM_@excite.com> wrote in message
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> I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
> a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
> frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
> pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed
it
> but again got caught during a storm and again got water in the frame.
Has
> anyone else had this problem and what is the solution (aside from not
riding
> in the rain) and replacing the seatpost
>
> thanks

"Paul" <yetixtr_NOSPAM_@excite.com> wrote in message
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> I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
> a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
> frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
> pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed
it
> but again got caught during a storm and again got water in the frame.
Has
> anyone else had this problem and what is the solution (aside from not
riding
> in the rain) and replacing the seatpost
>
> thanks
>

Does the flat spot on the post leave a large enough hole that a good shot of grease can't plug it
up? Like, take out the post, put too much PolyLube on it, the put it back in. Now, wipe the excess
from around the collar. That may do it, or it might just make a greasy mess.

I've heard of people drilling small holes in the bb shell to help drainage, but I wouldn't want to
experiment with swiss-cheesing a nice frame like yours.

Chris

I regularly ride in the muddy stuff, while my bike lives inside and therefore requires washing down
- up to 4 or 5 times a week and this was a constant problem... until: I cut a section of old tube,
stretched it over the seatpost clamp and taped it top and bottom. I like to think of it as a condom
for my bike - it allows it to get down and dirty without 'catching' anything....

nick

"Paul" <yetixtr_NOSPAM_@excite.com> wrote in message
news:%5EYa.4545$_a4.849495@news20.bellglobal.com... I mean to say "I removed the bottom bracket and
re-greased it......." not regressed

"Paul" <yetixtr_NOSPAM_@excite.com> wrote in message
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> I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
> a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
> frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
> pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed
it
> but again got caught during a storm and again got water in the frame.
Has
> anyone else had this problem and what is the solution (aside from not
riding
> in the rain) and replacing the seatpost
>
> thanks

easton specifically warn *against* greasing their carbon posts.

Chris wrote:
> "Paul" <yetixtr_NOSPAM_@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:k4EYa.4544$_a4.849113@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
>>I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
>>a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
>>frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
>>pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed
>
> it
>
>>but again got caught during a storm and again got water in the frame.
>
> Has
>
>>anyone else had this problem and what is the solution (aside from not
>
> riding
>
>>in the rain) and replacing the seatpost
>>
>>thanks
>>
>
>
> Does the flat spot on the post leave a large enough hole that a good shot of grease can't plug it
> up? Like, take out the post, put too much PolyLube on it, the put it back in. Now, wipe the excess
> from around the collar. That may do it, or it might just make a greasy mess.
>
> I've heard of people drilling small holes in the bb shell to help drainage, but I wouldn't want to
> experiment with swiss-cheesing a nice frame like yours.
>
> Chris

"Paul" <yetixtr_NOSPAM_@excite.com> wrote in message
news:<k4EYa.4544$_a4.849113@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
> a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
> frame. I unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1
> pound of water in the frame. I removed the bottom bracket and regressed it but again got caught
> during a storm and again got water in the frame. Has anyone else had this problem and what is the
> solution (aside from not riding in the rain) and replacing the seatpost
>

Poor design. Any frame should have a hole in the bottom of the BB shell to drain water that enters.
Lack of the drain sounds like it should be fixed under warranty.

- rick

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 22:40:13 -0400, Paul <yetixtr_NOSPAM_@excite.com> wrote:

> I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has
> a flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the
> frame. anyone else had this problem and what is the solution (aside from not

My ideas:

-- Caulk the spot where the seatpost enters the frame or, seal it with something else; maybe mold a
filler from fiberglass [available as an auto body repair kit] or form caulk or any other material

-- Drill drain holes. I don't like this idea.

-- Duct tape from seatpost to seat tube

-- Fabricate some sort of cover, probably held on by rubber bands, in the seatpost -> seat tube
spot

> thanks
--
Rick Onanian

"Chris" <chrismccrearySPAMKILL@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> I've heard of people drilling small holes in the bb shell to help
drainage,
> but I wouldn't want to experiment with swiss-cheesing a nice frame like yours.
>

If his "nice frame" can't handle a 1/4 inch hole in the bottom bracket then maybe he'll have more
important problems before too long.

People have been putting cutouts in bicycle bb shells for decades - maybe the boutique products that
today's fad followers buy aren't strong enought for this.

"jim beam" <uce@ftc.gov> wrote in message news:qnNYa.887$SO5.462@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com...
> easton specifically warn *against* greasing their carbon posts.
>

You're right...I totally missed that part of his post. I should pay more attention.

Chris

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 11:53:27 -0300, "jt" <jtaylor@spamkiller.hfx.andara.com> wrote:

>
>"Chris" <chrismccrearySPAMKILL@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:PHGYa.2209$M6.158113@newsread1.....earthlink.net...
>>
>> I've heard of people drilling small holes in the bb shell to help
>drainage,
>> but I wouldn't want to experiment with swiss-cheesing a nice frame like yours.
>>
>
>If his "nice frame" can't handle a 1/4 inch hole in the bottom bracket then maybe he'll have more
>important problems before too long.
>
>People have been putting cutouts in bicycle bb shells for decades - maybe the boutique products
>that today's fad followers buy aren't strong enought for this.
>
Drilling a 6/4 Titanium BB shell is not as easy as all that ...

and you arrive at the age old argument... holes let water out vs holes let water and grit in..

nick had the best solution early in the thread.

"Nicholas & Domino" <onimod@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:3f339fe0_1@news.iprimus.com.au...
> I regularly ride in the muddy stuff, while my bike lives inside and therefore requires washing
> down - up to 4 or 5 times a week and this was a constant problem... until: I cut a section of old
> tube, stretched it over the seatpost clamp and
taped
> it top and bottom. I like to think of it as a condom for my bike - it allows it to get down
and
> dirty without 'catching' anything....
>

I do this with my Topeak frame fit pum, as I run it along my left seatstay with the handle down,
except that I don't tape it. It's a nice stretch fit and works to keep my pump handle from filling
with water and rusting the spring.

As for water in the seat tube, etc., just remove the saddle/post after a rainy ride, and drain it,
let it dry.

--
Robin Hubert <cv2572@earthlink.net

In article <k4EYa.4544$_a4.849113@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Paul" <yetixtr_NOSPAM
_@excite.com> writes:
>I have a Seven Axiom Ti frame with an Easton EC70 Carbon Seatpost. It seems that the seatpost has a
>flat spot on it and while riding during rain the water runs down the seatpost and into the frame. I
>unfortunately got caught during a storm and when I drained the water there was probably 1 pound of
>water in the frame.

Not likely; that would be a pint of water, certainly more than the top tube would hold.

I removed the bottom bracket and regressed it
>but again got caught during a storm and again got water in the frame. Has anyone else had this
>problem and what is the solution (aside from not riding in the rain)

Grease the seatpost.

David L. Johnson Department of Mathematics Lehigh University

Pull BB then drill a hole in the frames BB shell at the bottom.

Fire up MTB 03

the seatpost is built that way http://eastonbike.com/COMPONENTS/post.ec70.html

"Appkiller" <petengail@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> <snip>
> > > It seems that the seatpost has a flat spot on it
> <snip>
>
> Sounds to me like your seatpost should be replaced under warranty. I believe that seatposts are
> supposed to be round in most cases, including yours.
>
> Drilling a hole in the bb shell, as suggested by others, is both a drain and an ENTRY point for
> liquids, etc.., as well as being fairly difficult with a 6/4 bb shell.
>
> App

Rick Onanian <spamsink@cox.net> wrote in message news:<oprtk9tmr2w8gzvw@news.east.cox.net>...

> -- Drill drain holes. I don't like this idea.
>

Talk to a good mechanic or framebuilder. They'll tell you that a BB shell should have a drain hole.
Not having one is a flaw. Adding one is fixing a flaw.

- rick