Which Campagnolo gruppo / era are these?

A friend gave me a bunch of Campy parts. A friend gave them to him. They are all in Campagnolo 9spd
Record boxes, but a few things about the parts don't match the boxes. Can you tell me what these
things are?

http://www.birfield.com/~morgan/imag...mystery_campy/

I see some dual-pivot Chorus brakes. Do they match thge rest of the parts, or are there other
Campagnolo parts mixed in here?

Thanks,

Morgan

Well, the cranks look like the mid 80's(?) Record cranks I just got. I don't know much about the
older stuff, so maybe the other grades look the same, but I do know, according to Branford Bike,
that that 7mm crankbolt was not too successful(for whatever reason), and they didn't stay in
production too long.

Morgan Fletcher wrote:
> A friend gave me a bunch of Campy parts. A friend gave them to him. They are all in Campagnolo
> 9spd Record boxes, but a few things about the parts don't match the boxes. Can you tell me what
> these things are?
>
> http://www.birfield.com/~morgan/imag...mystery_campy/
>
> I see some dual-pivot Chorus brakes. Do they match thge rest of the parts, or are there other
> Campagnolo parts mixed in here?

You have the take-offs from a nine speed conversion, I think. It's all Campagnolo AFAICS. The crank,
ergos and changer are older (pre '98), the calipers are newish. Can't see the BBs well enough but
one is expensive (thin body) and one isn't (fat body).

Do your silver boxes have a year sticker on them? 1998? 99? 2K? That's when these were
boxed, probably.

Around here, the stuff we rebox after a nine or ten speed conversion usually as a lot of life
left in it.

You can get a nine speed insert for those levers if they are eight. (check that) Generally it is not
worth building an eight bike - nine is not much more $ but is better supported.
--
Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Morgan Fletcher wrote:
> http://www.birfield.com/~morgan/imag...mystery_campy/
>
> I see some dual-pivot Chorus brakes. Do they match thge rest of the parts, or are there other
> Campagnolo parts mixed in here?

Brakes look newer than the rest but they are still pre 2000. I've checked with the 2000 - 2002
catalogues (unfortunately I don't have any earlier ones).

~PB

Morgan Fletcher <morgan@hahaha.org> wrote in message news:<87llq52zmf.fsf@fletcher.sonic.net>...
> A friend gave me a bunch of Campy parts. A friend gave them to him. They are all in Campagnolo
> 9spd Record boxes, but a few things about the parts don't match the boxes. Can you tell me what
> these things are?
>

Only the boxes are genuine. The actual parts are cheap--and potentially hazardous--knock-offs, most
likely made by Bulgarian political prisoners during a sad period in that nation's history. It was a
scam to make money for the ruling party, but the workers often inserted hidden flaws into the
mock-Campy parts as a protest to their exploitation, and to express their inner artistic feelings.
Now, a copy of a Gucci handbag is one thing. A so-called Campagnolo hub that disintegrates into a
hundred shards leaving only a phoenix rising from the ashes of political-prisonerhood, now, that
could hurt. Send me the parts, and I will dispose of them properly. Brian Plaugher

Morgan-<< A friend gave me a bunch of Campy parts. A friend gave them to him. They are all in
Campagnolo 9spd Record boxes, but a few things about the parts don't match the boxes. Can you tell
me what these things are? >><BR><BR>

can't make the images larger but looks like 1994 stuff. Boxes and labeling changed in 1995...

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tut-<< but I do know, according to Branford Bike, that that 7mm crankbolt was not too successful(for
whatever reason), and they didn't stay in production too long. >><BR><BR>

ahhh branford...stayed in production for 10 years..1984 thru 1994. Altho not a great design in that
the 7mm stripped sometimes, keeping it for 10 years doesn't a 'unsuccessful' design make.

Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

b.plaugher@attbi.com (Brian Plaugher) writes:
> Only the boxes are genuine. The actual parts are cheap--and potentially hazardous--knock-offs,
> most likely made by Bulgarian political prisoners during a sad period in that nation's history. It
> was a scam to make money for the ruling party, but the workers often inserted hidden flaws into
> the mock-Campy parts as a protest to their exploitation, and to express their inner artistic
> feelings. Now, a copy of a Gucci handbag is one thing. A so-called Campagnolo hub that
> disintegrates into a hundred shards leaving only a phoenix rising from the ashes of
> political-prisonerhood, now, that could hurt. Send me the parts, and I will dispose of them
> properly.

Worth of Andre Codrescu!

Morgan

vecchio51@aol.com (Qui si parla Campagnolo) writes:
> can't make the images larger but looks like 1994 stuff. Boxes and labeling changed in 1995...

Thank you all very much. Boxes all say "9spd Record", but I don't think they go with the parts.

Any way to tell which gruppo these are?

If you click the thumbnails you should get a 1200x900 image. I can take higher-res pics if
it helps...

Morgan