Lance Armstrong rides aged tubulars - Page 6

"Mike Jacoubowsky" <mikej1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>They say that good luck is often created, and that might be the case with
>Lance. Smarter (and strong) riders position themselves closer to the front
>of a pack, where there are fewer crashes and you've got better visibility of
>the road (so you're less-likely to hit something). Stronger riders are also
>less likely to be blindly following the wheel in front of them (and
>surprised when a pothole suddenly appears).

Nah, his reaction time is so fast, he sees glass an misses it. You
must have noticed how quick he went off road on that hair pin when the
rider in front went down and how he missed the drainage ditch, ect.

Wes

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Tom Orr <tomorr40nospam@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:
:> What, you think the _glue_ is 7 years old?

: Since the shellac layer on a beadless rim is never removed but built up over
: years why not?

That would assume that the tubs had been used before. I'd assumed that if they
are doing this they are buying new ones and storing them unused for the time.



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Mark Hickey <mark@habcycles.com> wrote in
news:jjufc1ppm7b9bh4nj021qm8fiahpk7mafo@4ax.com:

> DC <dangerdotcharlie@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I think Lance and Discovery are having some fun with us for
>>mis-information puposes. That mechanic *said* that he aged the tires
>>but it was probably just to keep all Lance's competitors guessing.
>>They did the same thing a few years ago with the whole emphasis on
>>stretching and how important that was. Notice there was not one
>>mention of stretching in all these pre-tour
>>Lance/Discovery/Nike/Giro/Trek/HED commercials/shows they've been
>>running like crazy.
>
> Now THAT makes sense... I can just picture Lance at the starting line
> looking at all the old tubies that his rivals have dug up and laughing
> knowing that he's riding "freshies"... heh. It wouldn't be the first
> time he employed psyops on the other teams.
>

It just occurred to me... another piece of Lance misinformation was last
year with regard to his handlebars for Alp d'Huez. They were showing all
these strange aerobar combinations, some where he actually put his wrists
under the crossbars to grab the aerobars. All for aero speed up the
mountain, you know.

IIRC, didn't he just ride a normal bike for that time trial?

http://www.velonews.com/tour2004/det...es/6631.0.html

On 6 Jul 2005 02:05:03 GMT, DC <dangerdotcharlie@gmail.com> wrote:

>Mark Hickey <mark@habcycles.com> wrote in
>news:jjufc1ppm7b9bh4nj021qm8fiahpk7mafo@4ax.com:
>
>> DC <dangerdotcharlie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I think Lance and Discovery are having some fun with us for
>>>mis-information puposes. That mechanic *said* that he aged the tires
>>>but it was probably just to keep all Lance's competitors guessing.
>>>They did the same thing a few years ago with the whole emphasis on
>>>stretching and how important that was. Notice there was not one
>>>mention of stretching in all these pre-tour
>>>Lance/Discovery/Nike/Giro/Trek/HED commercials/shows they've been
>>>running like crazy.
>>
>> Now THAT makes sense... I can just picture Lance at the starting line
>> looking at all the old tubies that his rivals have dug up and laughing
>> knowing that he's riding "freshies"... heh. It wouldn't be the first
>> time he employed psyops on the other teams.
>>
>
>It just occurred to me... another piece of Lance misinformation was last
>year with regard to his handlebars for Alp d'Huez. They were showing all
>these strange aerobar combinations, some where he actually put his wrists
>under the crossbars to grab the aerobars. All for aero speed up the
>mountain, you know.
>
>IIRC, didn't he just ride a normal bike for that time trial?
>
>http://www.velonews.com/tour2004/det...es/6631.0.html

Mostly normal. He at least ran the DT shift lever for the front der. Don't know
what else about the bike might have been stage specific, pretty sure he wasn't
running the usual wheels.

Ron

On 28 Jun 2005 12:47:51 -0700, "Mike Krueger" <skubanut@aol.com>
wrote:

>Discovery Channel aired a TV documentary yesterday entitled, "The
>Science of Lance Armstrong". In one segment, Lance's longtime Belgian
>mechanic was profiled. He took the camera crew down into his "wine
>cellar", where he stores scores of tubular tires for the pro team. He
>had stacks of tires specifically designated for Paris-Roubaix, the
>other spring classics, and, of course, the Tour De France, for which he
>claimed the tubular tires had been specially *aging* for up to seven
>years to improve their performance characteristics. This guy's been a
>pro mechanic for 40 years, so he might know something about the
>subject.
>Comments?

In case anybody missed the show and you have Bit Torrent, here it is,
aged tubulars and all --> http://www.mininova.org/tor/68256








J. Spaceman

DC wrote:

> >
>
> I think Lance and Discovery are having some fun with us for mis-information
> puposes. That mechanic *said* that he aged the tires but it was probably
> just to keep all Lance's competitors guessing. They did the same thing a
> few years ago with the whole emphasis on stretching and how important that
> was. Notice there was not one mention of stretching in all these pre-tour
> Lance/Discovery/Nike/Giro/Trek/HED commercials/shows they've been running
> like crazy.

I don't think it is misinformation. I have no doubt Julien and other
long time euro wrenches age their rider's tubies.

> I don't think it is misinformation. I have no doubt Julien and other
> long time euro wrenches age their rider's tubies.

sure. badyore makes x, y, z compounds
team zero plus ages x,y,z, in different ways (nitrogen at 30 below?)
producing a (theoretic) advantage.
team whazoo doesn't age or ?? whatever and gets the over the counter
effect.
which may be slower under condition j thru B1

datakoll@yahoo.com wrote:
> > I don't think it is misinformation. I have no doubt Julien and other
> > long time euro wrenches age their rider's tubies.
>
> sure. badyore makes x, y, z compounds
> team zero plus ages x,y,z, in different ways (nitrogen at 30 below?)
> producing a (theoretic) advantage.
> team whazoo doesn't age or ?? whatever and gets the over the counter
> effect.
> which may be slower under condition j thru B1


yup, what he said.....what did he say?

i'm remindead of implanting ground walnut shells into ice racing tires.
this is de rigeur.
foresoup! the outer rubber heats to a higher temp in the mold.
the oxidation process, an even oxidation throughout the circumferential
tire area( i learned that from JB)due mainly to exclusive use of larch
leaves a useable surface, but for what don't know-i assume this is good
for something
other than wear down to the rubber less heated: which is more pliable
and grippyier than outside circum rubber a'comin into contact with the
hot mold