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Old 10-28.-2005
The Reid
 
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Default Shepherds' pie

I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.

No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
"cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?

I have even created a page to try and help put things right:-
"http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/londonfood3.htm"

Please help me in my quest to stamp out this evil, evil habit by
putting people right when you come across it. Shed blood if you
have to, its a noble cause.

If you have been, thanks for listening.
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
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Old 10-28.-2005
Mamma Mia
 
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"The Reid" <dontuse@fell-walker.co.uk> wrote in message
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>I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
> first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
> across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
> pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
> anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.
>
> Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
> Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.
>
> No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
> "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?
>
> I have even created a page to try and help put things right:-
> "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/londonfood3.htm"
>
> Please help me in my quest to stamp out this evil, evil habit by
> putting people right when you come across it. Shed blood if you
> have to, its a noble cause.
>
> If you have been, thanks for listening.
> --


my god mike, thankfully you are putting this EVIL misnomer right....let the
world be rid of it's shepherd/cottage confusion.....



actually, i never knew the difference!! learn something every day!

chris in oz



> Mike Reid
> Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
> Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a
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Old 10-28.-2005
Ophelia
 
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"Mamma Mia" <abba@sweden.com> wrote in message
news:43622606$0$25855$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
>
> "The Reid" <dontuse@fell-walker.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:8274m1pohh44e2fg8k6v32clim8pe817r3@4ax.com...
>>I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
>> first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
>> across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
>> pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
>> anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.
>>
>> Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
>> Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.
>>
>> No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
>> "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?
>>
>> I have even created a page to try and help put things right:-
>> "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/londonfood3.htm"
>>
>> Please help me in my quest to stamp out this evil, evil habit by
>> putting people right when you come across it. Shed blood if you
>> have to, its a noble cause.
>>
>> If you have been, thanks for listening.
>> --

>
> my god mike, thankfully you are putting this EVIL misnomer
> right....let the world be rid of it's shepherd/cottage confusion.....
>
>
>
> actually, i never knew the difference!! learn something every day!
>
> chris in oz


Oh chris you MUST know the difference????


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Old 10-28.-2005
The Reid
 
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Following up to Mamma Mia

>my god mike, thankfully you are putting this EVIL misnomer right....let the
>world be rid of it's shepherd/cottage confusion.....


the crusade goes on. Oops, can we say crusade, nowadays?

The other thing to put right is the shepherd's pie v shepherds'
pie controversy, don't ever say I shrink from the big issues.

>actually, i never knew the difference!! learn something every day!


well, glad to be of service :-)
--
Mike Reid
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Old 10-28.-2005
jmcquown
 
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The Reid wrote:
> I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
> first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
> across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
> pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
> anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.
>
> Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.


Absolutely! Lamb or mutton with a top crust! Steak & kidney pie is also...
steak & kidneys with a top crust.

'tis why I call my turkey cottage pie, turkey cottage pie. Mashed potatoes
on the top. Doesn't mean it's not good, though

Jill


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Old 10-28.-2005
The Reid
 
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Following up to jmcquown

>'tis why I call my turkey cottage pie, turkey cottage pie. Mashed potatoes
>on the top. Doesn't mean it's not good, though


indeed, as I understand it, cottage pie is whatever you want to
put in it, within reason. Rice or polenta would be rather gauche
though.
--
Mike Reid
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Old 10-28.-2005
jmcquown
 
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The Reid wrote:
> Following up to jmcquown
>
>> 'tis why I call my turkey cottage pie, turkey cottage pie. Mashed
>> potatoes on the top. Doesn't mean it's not good, though

>
> indeed, as I understand it, cottage pie is whatever you want to
> put in it, within reason. Rice or polenta would be rather gauche
> though.


Absolutely no rice or polenta in cottage pie. Ground beef or ground pork,
even ground lamb Peas and carrots. Rice? Huh... why rice with mashed
potatoes as a topping?

Jill


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Old 10-28.-2005
Seamus
 
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The Reid wrote:
> I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
> first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
> across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
> pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
> anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.
>
> Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
> Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.
>
> No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
> "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?
>
> I have even created a page to try and help put things right:-
> "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk/londonfood3.htm"
>
> Please help me in my quest to stamp out this evil, evil habit by
> putting people right when you come across it. Shed blood if you
> have to, its a noble cause.
>
> If you have been, thanks for listening.
> --
> Mike Reid
> Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
> Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
> Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk

Call it anything you like , just don't call me late for supper.

Stranger is the French Canadien name for it (it is Shepard's Pie to the
English Canadians) - Pate Chinois ... Chinese Pie. Just what is Chinese
about it I could never figure out. The ingredients certainly aren't and
even the concpet of a large pie is does not seem ery "Chinese" to me.

As to the shepard - why eat your sheep when you can get one of those
dumb ol' cows to mince into a pie ???? :-)
All chopped up and covered in taties, the cowherd wil be none the wiser.

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Old 10-28.-2005
The Reid
 
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Following up to jmcquown

>Absolutely no rice or polenta in cottage pie.


I agree.
--
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Old 10-28.-2005
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"The Reid" <dontuse@fell-walker.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8274m1pohh44e2fg8k6v32clim8pe817r3@4ax.com...
>I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
> first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
> across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
> pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
> anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.
>
> Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
> Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.
>
> No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
> "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?
>


Hopefully, not to be confused with "Cowpie" lol


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Old 10-28.-2005
The Reid
 
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Following up to Seamus

>Stranger is the French Canadien name for it (it is Shepard's Pie to the
>English Canadians) - Pate Chinois ... Chinese Pie. Just what is Chinese
>about it I could never figure out. The ingredients certainly aren't and
>even the concpet of a large pie is does not seem ery "Chinese" to me.


its supposed to be from exrailway workers in Quebec, as you say
not very Chinese.
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Old 10-28.-2005
Ophelia
 
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"zuuum" <zuuum@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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>
> "The Reid" <dontuse@fell-walker.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:8274m1pohh44e2fg8k6v32clim8pe817r3@4ax.com...
>>I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
>> first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
>> across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
>> pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
>> anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.
>>
>> Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
>> Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.
>>
>> No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
>> "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?
>>

>
> Hopefully, not to be confused with "Cowpie" lol


Desparate Dan.. is that you?


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Old 10-28.-2005
Ranee Mueller
 
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In article <8274m1pohh44e2fg8k6v32clim8pe817r3@4ax.com>,
The Reid <dontuse@fell-walker.co.uk> wrote:

> I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
> first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
> across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
> pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
> anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.


Be glad it was meat, at least. Evidently, there are shepherds
tending lentils somewhere, as I've seen several "shepherd's" pie recipes
that are made of lentils and no meat at all. I've seen a fisherman's
pie before, made with fish.

Regards,
Ranee

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Old 10-28.-2005
limey
 
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"The Reid" wrote in message

>I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
> first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
> across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
> pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
> anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.
>
> Shepherd > sheep > shepherds' pie.
> Cowherd > beef > cottage pie.
>
> No, no one knows why its "cottage", should have been
> "cowherd/cowboy pie". Perhaps the mash looks like thatch?
>

Mike Reid

LOL. Mike, the shepherd's pie/cottage pie discussion has been held here any
number of times but I admit the goof still occurs.
I even have an Irish recipe calling it shepherd's pie but made with beef! I
won't disclose the author in case he gets beheaded.

Dora


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Old 10-28.-2005
Ophelia
 
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"Ranee Mueller" <raneemdonot@spamharbornet.com> wrote in message
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> In article <8274m1pohh44e2fg8k6v32clim8pe817r3@4ax.com>,
> The Reid <dontuse@fell-walker.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I recently Googled "Shepherds pie" and was dismayed to find the
>> first few recipes were made from beef. Now I know food words vary
>> across the Atlantic more than most other things, but a shepherds
>> pie with beef is absurd. Thats cottage pie. Cottage pie is
>> anything covered in mash, well, not fish obviously.

>
> Be glad it was meat, at least. Evidently, there are shepherds
> tending lentils somewhere, as I've seen several "shepherd's" pie
> recipes
> that are made of lentils and no meat at all.


LOLOL

I've seen a fisherman's
> pie before, made with fish.


yep that is what we make fisherman's pie with)


 

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