rules of running

1.- the 10% per week mileage increase rule
2.- the do-not-run-within-2-hours-of-eating rule
3.- the 1 minute slower than marathon pace rule
4.- the once a week speedwork rule
5.- the do-not-run-for-a-month-after-a-marathon rule
6.- the 90% of miles are easy miles rule

etcetera... what other rules can you think of?

you'll get crabs."

"schuburg" <schuburg@landings.cjb.net> wrote in message
> 1.- the 10% per week mileage increase rule

This rule makes little sense. If you are currently running say, 50 miles a week, then within six
months you will be running over 200 miles a week.

> 2.- the do-not-run-within-2-hours-of-eating rule

I break this every day, and so does the majority of runners. If it works for you, stick with it, but
it's not for everyone. I could personally eat a full plate of lasagne and run a 10 miler half an
hour later.

> 3.- the 1 minute slower than marathon pace rule

... meaning that this pace should be you regular training run pace, I assume? For me, that would be
about 7:30/mile. This sounds reasonable, although again - running "rules" don't work because
everyone is different. I personally do NO running slower than about ½ marathon pace, ever. This
stimulus seems to work for me - although it does not for a training partner of mine.

> 4.- the once a week speedwork rule

... if you are at a certain level. A beginner would get injured with this schedule, and an elite
runner would get bored.

> 5.- the do-not-run-for-a-month-after-a-marathon rule

... if you broke your leg or something running it, maybe! Who told you to not run for a month after
a marathon? Is this a troll??

> 6.- the 90% of miles are easy miles rule

... for what goal to be reached? At what point in training?

> etcetera... what other rules can you think of?

How about "all runners are different, and there are no hard, fast rules that can be applied to all
of them."

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org

schuburg <schuburg@landings.cjb.net> wrote:
> 1.- the 10% per week mileage increase rule
> 2.- the do-not-run-within-2-hours-of-eating rule
> 3.- the 1 minute slower than marathon pace rule
> 4.- the once a week speedwork rule
> 5.- the do-not-run-for-a-month-after-a-marathon rule
> 6.- the 90% of miles are easy miles rule
>
> etcetera... what other rules can you think of?

7) The "There's an exception to every rule" rule.
8) The "Rules were meant to be broken" rule.

-dave

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get crabs."

Not really up to your usual standards, is this? Care to try again? After all, if you don't have
anything to say, why say anything?

>> > 1.- the 10% per week mileage increase rule

This rule makes little sense. If you are currently running say, 50 miles a week, then within six
months you will be running over 200 miles a week. <<

Only if they make the increases mandatory.

Mike

In article <nt9Ab.522$8Y4.65257@read2.cgocable.net>, SwStudio wrote:
> "schuburg" <schuburg@landings.cjb.net> wrote in message

[snip]

Good points, but I think for most runners in their first year or two of training, it would pay to
follow most of the rules, with the exception of the retarded 2 hr rule. The marathon pace rule needs
to be replaced with something else since most relative beginners don't have a marathon time or even
a race time, and the "10% rule" is just crap and needs to be replaced with something a little less
permissive (e.g. 10% every 3 weeks)

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

"Dave Andersen" <dga@no.spam.pobox.com> wrote in message news:SoednVPJLIKb1Uyi4p2dnA@aros.net...
> schuburg <schuburg@landings.cjb.net> wrote:
> > 1.- the 10% per week mileage increase rule
> > 2.- the do-not-run-within-2-hours-of-eating rule
> > 3.- the 1 minute slower than marathon pace rule
> > 4.- the once a week speedwork rule
> > 5.- the do-not-run-for-a-month-after-a-marathon rule
> > 6.- the 90% of miles are easy miles rule
> >
> > etcetera... what other rules can you think of?
>
> 7) The "There's an exception to every rule" rule.
> 8) The "Rules were meant to be broken" rule.
>
> -dave

Rules 4,5,6 are rather bogus rules.

>
> --
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pobox.com
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> unsolicited email. Do not mail
me.

In article <SoednVPJLIKb1Uyi4p2dnA@aros.net>, Dave Andersen wrote:
> schuburg <schuburg@landings.cjb.net> wrote:
>> 1.- the 10% per week mileage increase rule
>> 2.- the do-not-run-within-2-hours-of-eating rule
>> 3.- the 1 minute slower than marathon pace rule
>> 4.- the once a week speedwork rule
>> 5.- the do-not-run-for-a-month-after-a-marathon rule
>> 6.- the 90% of miles are easy miles rule
>>
>> etcetera... what other rules can you think of?
>
> 7) The "There's an exception to every rule" rule.
> 8) The "Rules were meant to be broken" rule.

Each "rule" is based on a principle. You can break the "rule" if you understand the principle,
otherwise (7) and (8) don't really apply.

Actually, all of the 6 rules are somewhat problematic.

(1) is too permissive -- it allows very rapid milage increases.
(2) is just plain wrong, and most people could safely ignore it.
(3) is meaningless unless you know what your marathon pace is, and meaningless for someone whose
marathon times are slow compared to their times for short distances.
(4) doesn't make much sense at all -- beginners could do fine without speed work, and more
experienced runners could do 2 speed sessions each week, or even 3, especially if the program is
periodised
(5) ... ? overly restrictive. Even the more conservative runners I know don't follow this "rule".
(6) as stated, this means that you'd need 50mpw to support a 5k tempo run + 6x400m in a week. 15% is
a more realistic guideline, but it's more of a guideline than a "rule".

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

"SwStudio" <shhhh_secrets@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:nt9Ab.522$8Y4.65257@read2.cgocable.net...
> > 3.- the 1 minute slower than marathon pace rule
>
> ... meaning that this pace should be you regular training run pace, I assume? For me, that would
> be about 7:30/mile. This sounds reasonable, although again - running "rules" don't work because
> everyone is different. I personally do NO running slower than about ½ marathon pace, ever. This
> stimulus seems to work for me - although it does not for a training partner of mine.

Not that it really matters, but this just doesn't compute for me...

You are saying your MP is around 6:30/mile. Presumably, your 1/2 MP is a smidgen faster (let's say,
6:25/mile?). And you do NO training runs slower than that pace? I guess if your training runs are
all 1/2 marathon distance or less, that might be possible. Or maybe it's the currency devaluation of
the Canajun minute...

SwStudio wrote:

>>2.- the do-not-run-within-2-hours-of-eating rule

This is a playful takeoff on swimming.

> I break this every day, and so does the majority of runners. If it works for you, stick with it,
> but it's not for everyone. I could personally eat a full plate of lasagne and run a 10 miler half
> an hour later.

I eat immediately before, during and after. I do pass on the beer until after the race. I can only
hope a race would offer lasagna. I had pizza this year and it tasted fantastic.

--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" dfreeseS@NOBShvc.rr.com

On 06 Dec 2003 00:05:11 GMT, arbor77@aol.com (Arbor77) wrote:

>get crabs."
>
>Not really up to your usual standards, is this? Care to try again? After all, if you don't have
>anything to say, why say anything?

It's that troll award, it went right to her head.

In article <20031205202331.21755.00000200@mb-m26.aol.com>, M1ahearn wrote:
>>> > 1.- the 10% per week mileage increase rule
>
> This rule makes little sense. If you are currently running say, 50 miles a week, then within six
> months you will be running over 200 miles a week. <<
>
> Only if they make the increases mandatory.

It makes little sense either way, because it permits doubling milage over a 2 month period. It's too
permissive to be a reasonable restriction, and as stated, it doesn't allow more than 10%
week-to-week variation (so 42-38-42 is not allowed because there is a >10% increase in there)

Some improvements/refinements to this rule include 10% increase every 3 weeks, or a 15% increase
per month.

But that's somewhat beside the point -- a "rule" should make sense without a lot of
justification/reinterpretation.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

In article <nt9Ab.522$8Y4.65257@read2.cgocable.net>, SwStudio wrote:
> "schuburg" <schuburg@landings.cjb.net> wrote in message

[snip]

Good points, but I think for most runners in their first year or two of training, it would pay to
follow most of the rules, with the exception of the retarded 2 hr rule. The marathon pace rule needs
to be replaced with something else since most relative beginners don't have a marathon time or even
a race time, and the "10% rule" is just crap and needs to be replaced with something a little less
permissive (e.g. 10% every 3 weeks)

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

"Dave Andersen" <dga@no.spam.pobox.com> wrote in message news:SoednVPJLIKb1Uyi4p2dnA@aros.net...
> schuburg <schuburg@landings.cjb.net> wrote:
> > 1.- the 10% per week mileage increase rule
> > 2.- the do-not-run-within-2-hours-of-eating rule
> > 3.- the 1 minute slower than marathon pace rule
> > 4.- the once a week speedwork rule
> > 5.- the do-not-run-for-a-month-after-a-marathon rule
> > 6.- the 90% of miles are easy miles rule
> >
> > etcetera... what other rules can you think of?
>
> 7) The "There's an exception to every rule" rule.
> 8) The "Rules were meant to be broken" rule.
>
> -dave

Rules 4,5,6 are rather bogus rules.

>
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pobox.com
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> unsolicited email. Do not mail
me.