I normally run wearing a capilene underwear in the winter. I just learned of a product called 'under
armor'. Does anyone have a comparison on these two?

"RDot" <driskill@sbc.edu> wrote in message
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> I normally run wearing a capilene underwear in the winter. I just learned of a product called
> 'under armor'. Does anyone have a comparison on these two?

Doesn't come close to the quality of Patagonia's capilene stuff. Under Armour is run by marketing
geniuses who've managed to get their brand name hot with teenagers and young adults. They're
basically selling technical polyester shirts much like Nike, Duofold, Brooks, etc. but the quality
and workmanship isn't as good as any of these IMO.

Jim Johnson

I tried this stuff a little while ago and while i am in pretty good shape, this stuff made me feel
fat: it's more than skin tight::i am pretty ripped but with this stuff on, it squeezes what little
bit of fat is on my body to come out and show through the shirt.. if i was about 3% body fat instead
of 7% maybe i'd like it but i'm gonna stick with wearing a polypro shirt under a gore tex jacket
when running outdoors when its under30 degrees outside

"RDot" <driskill@sbc.edu> wrote in message news:36e7e212.0312211347.6e6b8735@posting.google.com...
> I normally run wearing a capilene underwear in the winter. I just learned of a product called
> 'under armor'. Does anyone have a comparison on these two?

"Jim Johnson" <ukcatfan00@hotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> "RDot" <driskill@sbc.edu> wrote in message news:36e7e212.0312211347.6e6b8735@posting.google.com...
>> I normally run wearing a capilene underwear in the winter. I just learned of a product called
>> 'under armor'. Does anyone have a comparison on these two?
>
> Doesn't come close to the quality of Patagonia's capilene stuff. Under Armour is run by marketing
> geniuses who've managed to get their brand name hot with teenagers and young adults. They're
> basically selling technical polyester shirts much like Nike, Duofold, Brooks, etc. but the quality
> and workmanship isn't as good as any of these IMO.

I was in a Galyan's store today and they had this Under Armour stuff all over the place. Apparently
their buyer thinks it's going to be flying out of the store.

-Phil

In article <ikqFb.173279$_M.786822@attbi_s54>, Jim Johnson wrote:
>
> "RDot" <driskill@sbc.edu> wrote in message news:36e7e212.0312211347.6e6b8735@posting.google.com...
>> I normally run wearing a capilene underwear in the winter. I just learned of a product called
>> 'under armor'. Does anyone have a comparison on these two?
>
> Doesn't come close to the quality of Patagonia's capilene stuff. Under Armour is run by marketing
> geniuses who've managed to get their brand name hot with teenagers and young adults. They're
> basically selling technical polyester shirts much like Nike, Duofold, Brooks, etc. but the quality
> and workmanship isn't as good as any of these IMO.

I've got a couple of these -- some of the heat gear shirts and some cold gear long sleeve tops. I'm
pretty happy with the t-shirt. The long sleeve top isn't bad, but the fit is a little over the top
(especially if you're also wearing running tights) unless you wear something over it. Not bad as a
layer to put under a windbreaking jacket on cold days. The top didn't have flat seams or a zipper,
whereas nearly all the running tops from other brands do.

If I had to choose again though, I'd probably go for one of the brands that specialises in running
gear (Insport, Hind, Pearl Izumi, SportHill, Sugoi, and all the brands that make running shoes). As
you say, the workmanship does appear to be slightly better on these.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

In article <4-2dnZCQ356Ponui4p2dnA@comcast.com>, pogo wrote:
> I tried this stuff a little while ago and while i am in pretty good shape, this stuff made me feel
> fat: it's more than skin tight::i am pretty ripped but with this stuff on, it squeezes what little
> bit of fat is on my body to come out and show through the shirt.. if i was about 3% body fat
> instead of 7% maybe i'd like it but i'm gonna stick with wearing a polypro shirt under a gore tex
> jacket when running outdoors when its under30 degrees outside

If you really were at 7%, your veins would show through those shirts, not blobs or rolls of fat ...

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

In article <4-2dnZCQ356Ponui4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
"pogo" <nas33ms3@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I tried this stuff a little while ago and while i am in pretty good shape, this stuff made me feel
> fat: it's more than skin tight::i am pretty ripped but with this stuff on, it squeezes what little
> bit of fat is on my body to come out and show through the shirt..

They have different cuts; the UA shirt I have is not tight at all.

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night, and party every day. Then it was every other day. . . ."

- Homer J. Simpson

"Phil M." <pmarg@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9458C1966ED29seilogramp@216.77.188.18...
> I was in a Galyan's store today and they had this Under Armour stuff all over the place.
> Apparently their buyer thinks it's going to be flying out of the store.

It will definitely sell. Under Armour has great name recognition amongst the people who will pay top
dollar for athletic wear (i.e. teenage boys).

Jim Johnson

but i'm gonna stick with wearing a polypro shirt under a gore tex jacket when running outdoors when
its under30 degrees outside
___

Methinks you just described about $150 minimum of running gear above...and depending on the quality
of the grtx jacket...$400.

Daily Training?...a $3.99 Walmart/Kmart Thermal longsleeve top works for me. Oh?..it's really cold?
I'll wear two. If necessary for conditions of rain/snow/hail/sleet...I'll wear one of my Spring
running jackets on top of this. This in-expensive layer strategy is my answer to your fancy shmancy
gore-tex mr. big spender

Oh....I might spend a few $ on a race day top....right now over at rrs they have for $25 before the
on-line coupons Men's Nike® Therma-FIT® Stretch Fleece Crew long sleeves. That's a pretty good price
for a winter racing top. Better yet...just yesterday as I was doing my holiday shoppng in an Old
Navy store...saw the Men's Fleece Pullovers w/half-way zip tops....looked great for winter running,
love the zip tops since you can zip up to keep your neck warm....than a some point in your run as
you're more warm...you unzip the neck to cool a bit....seemed like decent quality....grand price of
$12.50 a pop. No kidding. I think you can even buy'em online for this $12.50 price. I bought 5 of
them for myself....as it might not be singlet weather again till April

http://www.oldnavy.com/asp/dept_inde...asp?wdid=10060

In article <20031221211443.26263.00001392@mb-m06.aol.com>, Globaldisc wrote:
> but i'm gonna stick with wearing a polypro shirt under a gore tex jacket when running outdoors
> when its under30 degrees outside
> ___
>
> Methinks you just described about $150 minimum of running gear above...and depending on the
> quality of the grtx jacket...$400.

Compared running shoes, running attire is relatively inexpensive in the long run (you can wear it
for thousands of miles, not hundreds)

> Oh....I might spend a few $ on a race day top....right now over at rrs they have for $25 before
> the on-line coupons Men's Nike® Therma-FIT® Stretch Fleece Crew long sleeves. That's a pretty good
> price for a winter racing top. Better yet...just yesterday as I was doing my holiday shoppng in an
> Old Navy store...saw the Men's Fleece Pullovers w/half-way zip tops....looked great for winter
> running, love the zip tops since you can zip up to keep your neck warm....than a some point in
> your run as you're more warm...you unzip the neck to cool a bit....seemed like decent
> quality....grand price of $12.50 a pop. No kidding. I think you can even buy'em online for this
> $12.50 price. I bought 5 of them for myself....

You don't need a 1 week supply of tops -- a good running top should line-dry overnight, you can hand
wash or rinse them and they'll be dry the next day.

For that reason, I prefer to buy something a little more expensive, but only buy 1.

> as it might not be singlet weather again till April
>
> http://www.oldnavy.com/asp/dept_inde...asp?wdid=10060

Since we're on the subject of good places to get winter clothes online:

insport.com have some good deals going, the clearance section has a number of items at half retail
price or less.

Same is true for rei-outlet.com (I recommend doing brand searches for SportHill, Sugoi, Hind, Moving
Comfort, Insport, Pearl Izumi)

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

In article <20031221211443.26263.00001392@mb-m06.aol.com>,
globaldisc@aol.com (Globaldisc) wrote:

> Methinks you just described about $150 minimum of running gear above...and depending on the
> quality of the grtx jacket...$400.
>
> Daily Training?...a $3.99 Walmart/Kmart Thermal longsleeve top works for me. Oh?..it's really
> cold? I'll wear two. If necessary for conditions of rain/snow/hail/sleet...I'll wear one of my
> Spring running jackets on top of this. This in-expensive layer strategy is my answer to your fancy
> shmancy gore-tex mr. big spender

Well, I doubt the K-mart/Wal-Mart stuff wicks for that price. However, you don't have to spend a
fortune. The following takes me down well below freezing:

Coolmax variant LS shirt (~$12) Fleece pullover (~$12) Wind shell (I don't even know; they last
forever, so I haven't bought one in over 10 years; I use a rowing jacket) Tights ($20 or so; I also
got a pair for doing a race one time instead of a T-shirt) Knit cap (A couple a bucks) Light gloves
(or socks) for my hands

If it's really cold I'll put on a pair of sweatpants (nylon if windy) and another wicking
base layer.

I do have a Gore-Tex jacket that I got in a trade at lifeguard nationals one year. I traded a nice
golf shirt from my patrol for it.

--Harold Buck

"I used to rock and roll all night, and party every day. Then it was every other day. . . ."

- Homer J. Simpson

Under Armor isn't right for joggers. It was designed for athletes.

"Donovan Rebbechi" <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
> If you really were at 7%, your veins would show through those shirts

A slight exaggeration.

I am about 6% bodyfat, and certainly while I am very skinny and you can see veins protuding to a
degree (on my arms and hands, mostly), I doubt they would be seen though material.

Here's my numbers in general:

Weight: 59kg (130lbs) Height: 177cm (5'10") Body Mass Index: 19.0% Body Fat Percentage: 5.6% Body
Fat Weight: 3.3kg (7.3lbs) Lean Body Mass Percentage: 94.4% Lean Body Weight: 55.7kg (122.8lbs)
Basal Metabolic Rate: 1535 kcal

cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON) www.allfalldown.org

>Under Armor isn't right for joggers. It was designed for athletes.

So THAT explains why you couldn't find it on the "plus sizes" rack down at your local "Modern
Woman"....

nottactful@aol.com (NotTactful) wrote in message news:<20031222175735.16038.00000951@mb-m22.aol.com>...
> >Under Armor isn't right for joggers. It was designed for athletes.
>
> So THAT explains why you couldn't find it on the "plus sizes" rack down at your local "Modern
> Woman"....

No, he had his mommy make it for him.