reviews of winter running clothes - Page 2

In article <bu1cdv$cas0c$1@ID-102047.news.uni-berlin.de>, Perdy Tired wrote:
>
>> Where to buy: Rei-outlet.com, National Running Center
>
> This is when NRC becomes a good place to buy things... Shortly after posting that last message an
> email came in from NRC offering a 17% discount on apparel.

Looks good. A question (for you and Dot): are their store brand polypro clothes any good ?

Cheers.
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

> >> Where to buy: Rei-outlet.com, National Running Center
> >
> > This is when NRC becomes a good place to buy things... Shortly after posting that last message
> > an email came in from NRC offering a 17%
discount
> > on apparel.
>
> Looks good. A question (for you and Dot): are their store brand polypro
clothes
> any good ?

I don't know? I have several of their store brand items (Best of Times), although not polypro,
and am quite satisfied with them. As a result, I would assume the NRC polypro clothes would be
pretty good too.

Perdy.

i use dou-fold but i can nat find it anymore ,,, anyone know??? plodzilla

Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
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> In article <20040112130746.07934.00003001@mb-m16.aol.com>, Globaldisc wrote:
>
> > Most of my shells are New Balance....picked them up from $20-25 at newbalancewebexpress and
> > on Ebay.
>
> I checked these out and they both looked quite promising.
>
> I like the direction this thread is taking -- addressing the question, where a cheapskate runner
> can get good clothing. roadrunnersports is great for shoes, but lacking in apparel. Dot's prior
> rant about roadrunnersports (saying that it was a lousy place to get winter clothing) was dead on.
> It almost seems as though they've cut back on everything else so they can sell their own brand.
>
> Since we're drifting to the topic of clothing for cheapskates -- does anyone use Duofold clothing
> ? I've noticed that this stuff is made of coolmax, and is also very cheap (and often available at
> a discount from the already cheap price).
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

In article <4004ED3D.AED1B4F3@boeing.com>, gentolm wrote:
> i use dou-fold but i can nat find it anymore ,,, anyone know???

campmor

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

"gentolm" wrote in message....

> i use dou-fold but i can nat find it anymore ,,, anyone know??? plodzilla

Sierra Trading Post http://tinyurl.com/2mg5r

CampMor http://tinyurl.com/3xe8f

REI http://www.rei.com/

Perdy.

Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:<slrnc09sfr.d6.abuse@panix2.panix.com>...
> In article <4004ED3D.AED1B4F3@boeing.com>, gentolm wrote:
> > i use dou-fold but i can nat find it anymore ,,, anyone know???
>
>My preferred condom is campmor, it lets me feel him penetrating me
>
> Cheers,

You sicko pervert Realbitchy.

Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:<slrnc089j2.g6d.abuse@panix2.panix.com>...
> In article <1b803152.0401130807.68bc321c@posting.google.com>, AMH wrote:
> > Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:<slrnc04cci.b09.abuse@panix2.panix.com>...
>
> > Shirts: The longer I run the more likely I'll wear one of my Profile polypro shirts.
>
> You mention polypro in a couple of places as your favourite base layer. Any recommendations
> regarding where one can acquire these ? I'd imagine one could get these pretty cheap if one new
> where to look.
>
> Cheers,

I imagine the already mentioned Campmor would have some. I'm on a gear buying moritorium so I don't
look through their catalog when it arrived in the mail so I don't know what they have.

I also find them at ski shops. If you want to combine road trip and shopping trip go to North Conway
NH (the Mt. Washington Valley). There are quite a few ski and outdoor stores amongst the outlets
like Ragged Mountain sports and Chuck Roast. Hike a little, run a little, mountain bike a little,
climb a little and shop a little. Keep your eyes open for tent sales when you are out and about.

Do not, I repeat, do not buy anything in NYC. Unless you like paying more than you need to.

Andy

Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message news:<slrnc089j2.g6d.abuse@panix2.panix.com>...
> In article <1b803152.0401130807.68bc321c@posting.google.com>, AMH wrote:
> > Donovan Rebbechi <abuse@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:<slrnc04cci.b09.abuse@panix2.panix.com>...
>
> > Shirts: The longer I run the more likely I'll wear one of my Profile polypro shirts.
>
> You mention polypro in a couple of places as your favourite base layer. Any recommendations
> regarding where one can acquire these ? I'd imagine one could get these pretty cheap if one new
> where to look.
>
> Cheers,

K-mart sells polypro too.

AMH wrote:

I'm on a gear
> buying moritorium so I don't look through their catalog when it arrived in the mail so I don't
> know what they have.
>
You, too I sat down with a catalog the other day and then realized I wasn't in need of anything
in particular and already had more combinations than I could test

Dot

--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

Donovan Rebbechi wrote:

>
> Looks good. A question (for you and Dot): are their store brand polypro clothes any good ?

I've bought some of their Best of Times (BOT) stuff and it works fine, but it's polyester. I haven't
bought polypro in years (10+ maybe? - had a good supply). Not sure if the new stuff is different,
but the old stuff was very subject to melting in dryer, even on warm cycle - and I invariably would
mix some polypro in with my regular clothes. Newer fabrics don't do that - or at least not as
readily (hasn't happened to me yet), and they don't pill as much as the older polypro. Maybe newer
versions of polypro are better, but I don't think I've even seen it in Wally Mart. I definitely
prefer the feel of powerdry to the old polypro.

Something I should have mentioned earlier also is that silk socks or other wear can be useful where
you need a non-synthetic, non-cotton fabric, probably not an issue for running but it is for some
field work if around fires. Synthetics burn and melt on you.

Dot

--
"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

In article <rArNb.39906$6y6.852661@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, Dot wrote:

> This is so very true. In fact, the whole concept of "quality" really needs to be defined in
> any review.

Reviews are by their very nature subjective and biased. I'm more interested in experiences people
have had than anything else.

You'll note that this is largely an issue that I've avoided in these reviews. There are subjective
star ratings, but it's stated up-front that these are arbitraty, subjective and arguably
worthless. What's more important is what the product actually does, and how it works (or doesn't
work) for people.

> Some of the brands or stores that people bash here may work quite well for others.

Probably true. It often happens that a product does what it's supposed to do, but just doesn't meet
someones need. For example, Perdy's NRC jacket appears to have failed to provide enough
breathability -- people like him will always want to go for the most breathable design possible,
possibly even a vest. That's one reason I'm interseted in collecting some different points of view
(btw, you're welcome to submit any reviews for the website ... )

> is for some things. That's why I bought only socks there for years until I started doing more
> running - and buying what I call yuppy gear. My
^^^^^^^^^^ I like the terminology (-;

> field gear generally comes from army-navy stores. I've never bought any Sporthill tops (and the
> local store carried several styles) because they didn't look like they would work for me (can't
> remember what was wrong, but looking at their web page, it looks like they've at least changed
> their strange color patterns), even though their xc pants are great. But

The XC top more or less matches the XC pants.

They have two variations on the theme: the explorer top (3SP front/sleeves, swift elsewhere) and the
Pinnacle top (pockets, soft material on the sides). Since I'm fine in the Explorer top (without
other layers) down to single digits
+ windchill, the other variations are an overkill for me.

The main problem I'd suppose you'd have with these tops is that they're designed to perform the role
of a jacket + insulator. If you're already wearing a jacket, Polartec or similar will be just as
warm and probably more comfortable.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

> For example, Perdy's NRC jacket appears to have failed to provide enough breathability -- people
> like him will always want
to go
> for the most breathable design possible, possibly even a vest.

Bingo! You're right on the money!

In cooler temperatures the first layer I add is my microfleece vest. When it gets too cold (below
-18C or 0F), too rainy or too windy, as a last resort I add a jacket/shell and put up with the
breathability limitations.

Perdy.

Dot <dot.h@#att.net> wrote in message news:<_7sNb.17410$VS4.542115@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> AMH wrote:
>
> I'm on a gear
> > buying moritorium so I don't look through their catalog when it arrived in the mail so I don't
> > know what they have.
> >
> You, too I sat down with a catalog the other day and then realized I wasn't in need of anything
> in particular and already had more combinations than I could test
>
> Dot

My gf and I must get a dozen different gear/bicycle/running catalogs over the course of a month. I
consider it a test of will to toss them before I even open them. Beside we've stuffed 4 bicycles and
outdoor gear into a 1 bedroom closet, er I mean appartment. Our gear closet runneth over!!!!!!!!
Thank goodness we consider our bicycles pretty enough to hang on the walls.

Andy

Cheap and warm:

Merino wool sweaters from Target...$10 (on sale) $25 (regularly) Merona and Mossimo are Target
brands I think. Two years ago I got a bunch of Mossimo sweaters. They are pretty stylin'. I got them
thinking that when they were worn out, I could use them as an insulating layer for biking or
running. Wool kicks butt as a warm-when-wet insulating layer, and doesn't absorb odors as easily as
synthetics. Last year I couldn't find any sweaters and thought they stopped making them, but I never
thought to check the web site. This year, I found them, now called "Merona". I got 5. Just looked at
the web site and saw the Mossimo sweaters there but didn't see the Merona merino wool sweater, so
different stores might have different things.

In article <febcdd69.0401171054.1eb75fdc@posting.google.com>, jim gravity wrote:
> Cheap and warm:
>
> Merino wool sweaters from Target...$10 (on sale) $25 (regularly) Merona and Mossimo are Target
> brands I think. Two years ago I got a bunch of Mossimo sweaters. They are pretty stylin'. I got
> them thinking that when they were worn out, I could use them as an insulating layer for biking or
> running. Wool kicks butt as a warm-when-wet insulating layer, and doesn't absorb odors as easily
> as synthetics. Last year I couldn't find any sweaters and thought they stopped making them, but I
> never thought to check the web site. This year, I found them, now called "Merona". I got 5. Just
> looked at the web site and saw the Mossimo sweaters there but didn't see the Merona merino wool
> sweater, so different stores might have different things.

Could you track down and post some online links ? And may I add you and the content of this post to
the list of rec.running readers ?

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/