Underwater Treadmill

Has anyone tried this or know if it simulates running well? Am thinking of getting one for our
centre. Please see link

http://hydroworx.netreach.net/produc...products&subs-
ection=techadv

thanks -

David - Australia

I understand the mechanics of it, but how long can you hold your breath?

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:<2SsQb.25977$Wa.21815@news-
server.bigpond.net.au>...
> Has anyone tried this or know if it simulates running well? Am thinking of getting one for our
> centre. Please see link
>
> http://hydroworx.netreach.net/produc...n=products&su-
> bsection=techadv
>
> thanks -
>
> David - Australia

"Ken a whore" <kensawhore@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e2e75d66.0401240639.564d60da@posting.google.com...
> I understand the mechanics of it, but how long can you hold your breath?

it's not a problem, just before you lose conciousness, you leap up above the water and take a breath
of air - then drop down again continue running

>
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:<2SsQb.25977$Wa.21815@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> > Has anyone tried this or know if it simulates running well? Am thinking
of
> > getting one for our centre. Please see link
> >
> >
http://hydroworx.netreach.net/produc...products&subs-
ection=techadv
> >
> > thanks -
> >
> > David - Australia

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:<cVvQb.26151$Wa.12605@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
>> it's not a problem, just before you lose conciousness, you leap up above the
> water and take a breath of air - then drop down again continue running
>

You mean you try NOT to lose consciousness?

"Ken a whore" <kensawhore@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e2e75d66.0401241300.2db0e0c8@posting.google.com...
> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
news:<cVvQb.26151$Wa.12605@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
> >> it's not a problem, just before you lose conciousness, you leap up
above the
> > water and take a breath of air - then drop down again continue running
> >
>
> You mean you try NOT to lose consciousness?

guess it depends on your mood at the time

huh..

Don't you lose a large portion of weight in water? That will change running form.

"David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:2SsQb.25977$Wa.21815@news-
server.bigpond.net.au...
> Has anyone tried this or know if it simulates running well? Am thinking
of
> getting one for our centre. Please see link
>
>
http://hydroworx.netreach.net/produc...aTreadmill.asp
x?section=products&subsection=techadv
>
> thanks -
>
> David - Australia
>

I have seen one installed in the rehab room of our local NFL team. They were singing the praises
about it a couple of years ago, no idea if it really works.

David <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Has anyone tried this or know if it simulates running well? Am thinking of getting one for our
> centre. Please see link
>
> http://hydroworx.netreach.net/produc.../taTreadmill.a
> spx?section=products&subsection=techadv
>
> thanks -
>
> David - Australia

"rc5" <rc5project@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:flIQb.623$eN.424405167@news.nnrp.ca...
> huh..
>
> Don't you lose a large portion of weight in water? That will change
running
> form.

yes this is my main concern - the guy who manufactures them in Pennsylvania says that the running
form is virtually the same as on the road with less impact - so I may have to plan a trip over there
to check it out - nothing installed in Australis so far

> "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:2SsQb.25977$Wa.21815@news-
> server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Has anyone tried this or know if it simulates running well? Am thinking
> of
> > getting one for our centre. Please see link
> >
> >
>
http://hydroworx.netreach.net/produc...aTreadmill.asp
> x?section=products&subsection=techadv
> >
> > thanks -
> >
> > David - Australia
> >
> >
> >
>

On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:41:50 GMT, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

> Has anyone tried this or know if it simulates running well? Am thinking of getting one for our
> centre. Please see link
>
>http://hydroworx.netreach.net/produc...=products&sub-
>section=techadv
>
> thanks -
>
> David - Australia
>

I see this as a much more practical and better simulation of actual running that the earlier
proposed "water track". In this case running depth could be easily adjusted simply by
placing the track in different depths of the pool. You aren't running against the resistance
of the water, yet you are running at a depth that allows some impact to the legs. Another
advantage I could see would be for a more gradual rehab process. Let's say a full deep
water, no treadmill but with floatation deveice, running for a while. Then on the treadmill
in rather deep water and then shallower and shallower water until your on dry land again.
For regular training it would be nice to use for the occasional run to "save the legs" from
a bit of pounding. Also a benefit to overweight runners just starting out. On the negative
side you must still fight against the water while swinging your legs back and forth. I'd
guess that as with deep water pool running your hipflexors are called upon a bit more than
in Land running.

~Matt

"MJuric" <None@Nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:vvq710h1gldfne1acrnis32q1ul7v7md8n@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:41:50 GMT, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Has anyone tried this or know if it simulates running well? Am thinking
of
> > getting one for our centre. Please see link
> >
>
>http://hydroworx.netreach.net/produc...taTreadmill.as
px?section=products&subsection=techadv
> >
> > thanks -
> >
> > David - Australia
> >
>
> I see this as a much more practical and better simulation of actual running that the earlier
> proposed "water track". In this case running depth could be easily adjusted simply by placing the
> track in different depths of the pool. You aren't running against the resistance of the water, yet
> you are running at a depth that allows some impact to the legs. Another advantage I could see
> would be for a more gradual rehab process. Let's say a full deep water, no treadmill but with
> floatation deveice, running for a while. Then on the treadmill in rather deep water and then
> shallower and shallower water until your on dry land again. For regular training it would be nice
> to use for the occasional run to "save the legs" from a bit of pounding. Also a benefit to
> overweight runners just starting out. On the negative side you must still fight against the water
> while swinging your legs back and forth. I'd guess that as with deep water pool running your
> hipflexors are called upon a bit more than in Land running.
>
> ~Matt
thanks Matt - makes sense - it probably will work as you say for rehab and if you can change the
depth of the water easily - just wish they had something set up that I could check out - will cost
us around $35k (yankee dollars) to land in here -

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:36:34 GMT, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"MJuric" <None@Nowhere.com> wrote in message news:vvq710h1gldfne1acrnis32q1ul7v7md8n@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:41:50 GMT, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>> > Has anyone tried this or know if it simulates running well? Am thinking
>of
>> > getting one for our centre. Please see link
>> >
>>
>>http://hydroworx.netreach.net/produc...taTreadmill.as
>px?section=products&subsection=techadv
>> >
>> > thanks -
>> >
>> > David - Australia
>> >
>>
>> I see this as a much more practical and better simulation of actual running that the earlier
>> proposed "water track". In this case running depth could be easily adjusted simply by placing the
>> track in different depths of the pool. You aren't running against the resistance of the water,
>> yet you are running at a depth that allows some impact to the legs. Another advantage I could see
>> would be for a more gradual rehab process. Let's say a full deep water, no treadmill but with
>> floatation deveice, running for a while. Then on the treadmill in rather deep water and then
>> shallower and shallower water until your on dry land again. For regular training it would be nice
>> to use for the occasional run to "save the legs" from a bit of pounding. Also a benefit to
>> overweight runners just starting out. On the negative side you must still fight against the water
>> while swinging your legs back and forth. I'd guess that as with deep water pool running your
>> hipflexors are called upon a bit more than in Land running.
>>
>> ~Matt

>will cost us around $35k (yankee dollars) to land in here -

Again I'm in the wrong business..... Seems like a whole lot for a treadmill with fewer
parts. Certainly "waterproofing" doesn't cost 30-33K, Assuming a normal TM cost 3-5K or so.

~Matt

"MJuric" <None@Nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ue5810lq2l6ome498lpf0nrngk82ibj0jo@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 17:36:34 GMT, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> >
> >"MJuric" <None@Nowhere.com> wrote in message news:vvq710h1gldfne1acrnis32q1ul7v7md8n@4ax.com...
> >> On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 11:41:50 GMT, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Has anyone tried this or know if it simulates running well? Am
thinking
> >of
> >> > getting one for our centre. Please see link
> >> >
> >>
>
>>http://hydroworx.netreach.net/produc.../taTreadmill.a
s
> >px?section=products&subsection=techadv
> >> >
> >> > thanks -
> >> >
> >> > David - Australia
> >> >
> >>
> >> I see this as a much more practical and better simulation of actual running that the earlier
> >> proposed "water track". In this case running depth could be easily adjusted simply by placing
> >> the track in different depths of the pool. You aren't running against the resistance of the
> >> water, yet you are running at a depth that allows some impact to the legs. Another advantage I
> >> could see would be for a more gradual rehab process. Let's say a full deep water, no treadmill
> >> but with floatation deveice, running for a while. Then on the treadmill in rather deep water
> >> and then shallower and shallower water until your on dry land again. For regular training it
> >> would be nice to use for the occasional run to "save the legs" from a bit of pounding. Also a
> >> benefit to overweight runners just starting out. On the negative side you must still fight
> >> against the water while swinging your legs back and forth. I'd guess that as with deep water
> >> pool running your hipflexors are called upon a bit more than in Land running.
> >>
> >> ~Matt
>
> >will cost us around $35k (yankee dollars) to land in here -
>
> Again I'm in the wrong business..... Seems like a whole lot for a treadmill with fewer parts.
> Certainly "waterproofing" doesn't cost 30-33K, Assuming a normal TM cost 3-5K or so.

I forgot to mention that these people supply the entire swimming pool and the treadmill is just
a part of it - we would only buy it for our health club if we saw a financial return over a
couple of years