A Ritalin Nation

Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda
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Ritalin Nation
Telegraph, UK
Filed: 16/10/2005
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html

<Excerpt>There are no medical tests for ADHD and adults are evaluated
on a range of factors, including their childhood behavioural history
and questionnaires asking if they suffer from restlessness, lack of
organisation and poor time management. Or, as critics of the growing
ADHD "industry" put it, reasonably normal behaviour.

Professor Peter Hill, an adolescent psychiatrist and ADHD specialist,
believes that the explosion in the number of adults seeking medical
treatment for these "symptoms" is in danger of changing the view of the
condition. "Most of my patients do not continue their symptoms into
adulthood, and very few require medication beyond adolescence," he
says.

"ADHD is a developmental condition that gets better as you get older
and I think it is terribly important to stress that. The American
concept is to see it as something that never goes away, but I do not
think that is the case and I have seen no evidence to support that
theory."

Others in the medical profession go even farther, expressing deep
scepticism about the very existence of ADHD as a medical condition.
Some liken the rise of Ritalin to that of Prozac, the wonder drug of
the 1980s and 1990s that was supposed to bring medicated peace to
millions of depressed minds. Only later did studies link the drug to
suicide and violence, charges that Eli Lilly, its manufacturer,
continues to reject.

Dr Sami Timimi, an adolescent psychiatrist based in Lincolnshire and a
campaigner against the use of drugs for behavioural disorders, says the
medical treatment of anti-social behaviour is "a scandal", with adult
ADHD fast becoming a "new social health fad".

"During the 1990s, we saw melancholy and the normal ups and downs of
everyday life increasingly diagnosed as clinical depression, and taking
Prozac was considered a trendy and easy way of dealing with emotions
like unhappiness and anxiety," he says.

"If Ritalin, which is chemically similar to speed, continues to be
prescribed for adults who feel they are a bit disorganised, it will
become a lifestyle drug for perfectly healthy adults who want an extra
hand with the growing demands of daily life.

"ADHD does not exist in children and certainly doesn't exist in adults.
Mood swings, forgetfulness and disorganisation are common behavioural
patterns in every human being and it is ludicrous that they are now
being diagnosed as symptoms for a medical condition."

Dr Timimi believes that an increased awareness and acceptance of adult
ADHD provides some doctors with the opportunity to raise their profile
and help them secure funding from drugs companies eager to get a
foothold in the British market.

"This so-called condition is new territory for psychiatrists who can
make a name for themselves through labelling and medicating people's
problems, instead of investigating the real root causes and considering
alternative treatment, such as therapy," he says. "Doctors who
prescribe drugs in these situations give scientific legitimacy for
pharmacological solutions to life's normal stresses, and research
grants from drug companies are more likely to go to those doctors than
to the sceptical clinicians."

Dr Timimi believes that not enough people are aware of the potential
health risks and side-effects associated with Ritalin, which include
insomnia, psychosis and loss of appetite.

Although little research has been carried out into the drug's long-term
effects, a recent report in America found that Ritalin may cause
lasting changes to the brain. In the study, carried out by the Harvard
Medical School, healthy rats given the drug in their infancy were found
to have a reduced sense of pleasure and were more prone to signs of
despair during adulthood.<End>

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Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda
http://groups.msn.com/psychbusters

Psi wrote..., On 10/18/2005 15:09:
> <Excerpt>There are no medical tests for ADHD and adults are evaluated
> on a range of factors, including their childhood behavioural history
> and questionnaires asking if they suffer from restlessness, lack of
> organisation and poor time management. Or, as critics of the growing
> ADHD "industry" put it, reasonably normal behaviour.

But there are tests. In the South Park episode "Timmy 2000" Timmy and
all the other kids are diagnoses as having ADD after the doctor spends
10 hours reading the entire text of "The Great Gatsby" and then asks
them what kind of car Gatsby was driving in Chapter 14. When the kids
can't answer he diagnoses them all as having ADD and prescribes Ritalin
for all of them. The Ritalin has side-effects, though, including seeing
little pink Christina Aguilera monsters plus making the kids enjoy the
music of Phil Collins. Fortunately, Chef finds an antidote, a compound
called Ritilout, gives it to the kids during the Phil Collins concert,
and brings them back to reality.

Even Christina doesn't use anything stronger than Red Bull, at least if her
stage requests on The Smoking Gun web site are accurate.


"Peter Panda" <ppanda@tea.party.org> wrote in message
news:7Kj5f.17403$6e1.5673@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...
> Psi wrote..., On 10/18/2005 15:09:
>> <Excerpt>There are no medical tests for ADHD and adults are evaluated
>> on a range of factors, including their childhood behavioural history
>> and questionnaires asking if they suffer from restlessness, lack of
>> organisation and poor time management. Or, as critics of the growing
>> ADHD "industry" put it, reasonably normal behaviour.
>
> But there are tests. In the South Park episode "Timmy 2000" Timmy and
> all the other kids are diagnoses as having ADD after the doctor spends
> 10 hours reading the entire text of "The Great Gatsby" and then asks
> them what kind of car Gatsby was driving in Chapter 14. When the kids
> can't answer he diagnoses them all as having ADD and prescribes Ritalin
> for all of them. The Ritalin has side-effects, though, including seeing
> little pink Christina Aguilera monsters plus making the kids enjoy the
> music of Phil Collins. Fortunately, Chef finds an antidote, a compound
> called Ritilout, gives it to the kids during the Phil Collins concert,
> and brings them back to reality.
>

Children should all be given Ritalin starting at 3-5 months similar to vaccine
routines to avoid ADD and ADHD in their later years.

This basic dosage should be "boosted" before each school session, Kindergarten,
Grade 7 and Grade 9 entry. If the parents refuse to follow this recognized and
documented course of medication, admission to educational facilities should be
refused, as they could communicate their possible hyperactive behaviour to the
other children and start a plague of hyperactivity.

Legislation needs to be passed to stop these "unvaccinated" children from making
any contact with other children in private educational institutions also.

Religious reasons may be grounds for refusal of these needed medications but
children of parents choosing this course of action will be shunned by any
society functions or groups. Legislation to label this as "child abuse" will be
discussed at our earliest convenience to avoid independent or open thinking by
these mutinous, society outcasts having no consideration for their children or
the safety of society as a whole. Charges may be laid after legislation is
complete in order to save our children from these delinquent parents and a life
of misery.



"Psi" <usenetmike@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129673376.609642.323090@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda
> http://groups.msn.com/psychbusters
>

It sounds like you were probably tweaking when you wrote this. I used
to tweak a bit, and I'd usually get this "intellectual-sounding,
vindictive" tone you exhibit here.

Am I correct in any way? Were you at least drinking coffee?


On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:16:23 -0400, "Pizza Girl." <no.s.pam@5.me>
wrote:

>Children should all be given Ritalin starting at 3-5 months similar to vaccine
>routines to avoid ADD and ADHD in their later years.
>
>This basic dosage should be "boosted" before each school session, Kindergarten,
>Grade 7 and Grade 9 entry. If the parents refuse to follow this recognized and
>documented course of medication, admission to educational facilities should be
>refused, as they could communicate their possible hyperactive behaviour to the
>other children and start a plague of hyperactivity.
>
>Legislation needs to be passed to stop these "unvaccinated" children from making
>any contact with other children in private educational institutions also.
>
>Religious reasons may be grounds for refusal of these needed medications but
>children of parents choosing this course of action will be shunned by any
>society functions or groups. Legislation to label this as "child abuse" will be
>discussed at our earliest convenience to avoid independent or open thinking by
>these mutinous, society outcasts having no consideration for their children or
>the safety of society as a whole. Charges may be laid after legislation is
>complete in order to save our children from these delinquent parents and a life
>of misery.
>
>
>
>"Psi" <usenetmike@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1129673376.609642.323090@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda
>> http://groups.msn.com/psychbusters
>>
>

I don't drink coffee. If my parents would have saturated my system with Ritalin
early enough I wouldn't have this allergy to coffee now.

"Ermac77" <gordonzzz6@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:531el1568tt3o4b48v0d1h49u1st20c7bv@4ax.com...
> It sounds like you were probably tweaking when you wrote this. I used
> to tweak a bit, and I'd usually get this "intellectual-sounding,
> vindictive" tone you exhibit here.
>
> Am I correct in any way? Were you at least drinking coffee?
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:16:23 -0400, "Pizza Girl." <no.s.pam@5.me>
> wrote:
>
> >Children should all be given Ritalin starting at 3-5 months similar to
vaccine
> >routines to avoid ADD and ADHD in their later years.
> >
> >This basic dosage should be "boosted" before each school session,
Kindergarten,
> >Grade 7 and Grade 9 entry. If the parents refuse to follow this recognized
and
> >documented course of medication, admission to educational facilities should
be
> >refused, as they could communicate their possible hyperactive behaviour to
the
> >other children and start a plague of hyperactivity.
> >
> >Legislation needs to be passed to stop these "unvaccinated" children from
making
> >any contact with other children in private educational institutions also.
> >
> >Religious reasons may be grounds for refusal of these needed medications but
> >children of parents choosing this course of action will be shunned by any
> >society functions or groups. Legislation to label this as "child abuse" will
be
> >discussed at our earliest convenience to avoid independent or open thinking
by
> >these mutinous, society outcasts having no consideration for their children
or
> >the safety of society as a whole. Charges may be laid after legislation is
> >complete in order to save our children from these delinquent parents and a
life
> >of misery.
> >
> >
> >
> >"Psi" <usenetmike@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:1129673376.609642.323090@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda
> >> http://groups.msn.com/psychbusters
> >>
> >

Hey, we all know that kids get ADHD because of the lack of the
essential drug necessary to have a adhd-free existence. They get adhd
because they don't have ritalin in their systems don't they? Better
give them the ritalin.

TC


Psi wrote:
> Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda
> http://groups.msn.com/psychbusters
>
> --
>
> Ritalin Nation
> Telegraph, UK
> Filed: 16/10/2005
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...ixnewstop.html
>
> <Excerpt>There are no medical tests for ADHD and adults are evaluated
> on a range of factors, including their childhood behavioural history
> and questionnaires asking if they suffer from restlessness, lack of
> organisation and poor time management. Or, as critics of the growing
> ADHD "industry" put it, reasonably normal behaviour.
>
> Professor Peter Hill, an adolescent psychiatrist and ADHD specialist,
> believes that the explosion in the number of adults seeking medical
> treatment for these "symptoms" is in danger of changing the view of the
> condition. "Most of my patients do not continue their symptoms into
> adulthood, and very few require medication beyond adolescence," he
> says.
>
> "ADHD is a developmental condition that gets better as you get older
> and I think it is terribly important to stress that. The American
> concept is to see it as something that never goes away, but I do not
> think that is the case and I have seen no evidence to support that
> theory."
>
> Others in the medical profession go even farther, expressing deep
> scepticism about the very existence of ADHD as a medical condition.
> Some liken the rise of Ritalin to that of Prozac, the wonder drug of
> the 1980s and 1990s that was supposed to bring medicated peace to
> millions of depressed minds. Only later did studies link the drug to
> suicide and violence, charges that Eli Lilly, its manufacturer,
> continues to reject.
>
> Dr Sami Timimi, an adolescent psychiatrist based in Lincolnshire and a
> campaigner against the use of drugs for behavioural disorders, says the
> medical treatment of anti-social behaviour is "a scandal", with adult
> ADHD fast becoming a "new social health fad".
>
> "During the 1990s, we saw melancholy and the normal ups and downs of
> everyday life increasingly diagnosed as clinical depression, and taking
> Prozac was considered a trendy and easy way of dealing with emotions
> like unhappiness and anxiety," he says.
>
> "If Ritalin, which is chemically similar to speed, continues to be
> prescribed for adults who feel they are a bit disorganised, it will
> become a lifestyle drug for perfectly healthy adults who want an extra
> hand with the growing demands of daily life.
>
> "ADHD does not exist in children and certainly doesn't exist in adults.
> Mood swings, forgetfulness and disorganisation are common behavioural
> patterns in every human being and it is ludicrous that they are now
> being diagnosed as symptoms for a medical condition."
>
> Dr Timimi believes that an increased awareness and acceptance of adult
> ADHD provides some doctors with the opportunity to raise their profile
> and help them secure funding from drugs companies eager to get a
> foothold in the British market.
>
> "This so-called condition is new territory for psychiatrists who can
> make a name for themselves through labelling and medicating people's
> problems, instead of investigating the real root causes and considering
> alternative treatment, such as therapy," he says. "Doctors who
> prescribe drugs in these situations give scientific legitimacy for
> pharmacological solutions to life's normal stresses, and research
> grants from drug companies are more likely to go to those doctors than
> to the sceptical clinicians."
>
> Dr Timimi believes that not enough people are aware of the potential
> health risks and side-effects associated with Ritalin, which include
> insomnia, psychosis and loss of appetite.
>
> Although little research has been carried out into the drug's long-term
> effects, a recent report in America found that Ritalin may cause
> lasting changes to the brain. In the study, carried out by the Harvard
> Medical School, healthy rats given the drug in their infancy were found
> to have a reduced sense of pleasure and were more prone to signs of
> despair during adulthood.<End>
>
> --
>
> Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda
> http://groups.msn.com/psychbusters

We as a nation and the other nations using Ritalin, and anti-depressants
are headed into an abyss.


"Pizza Girl." <no.s.pam@5.me> wrote in message
news:1129822893.c0401c9d8ca7417b86888466ccb96b15@teranews...
> I don't drink coffee. If my parents would have saturated my system with
Ritalin
> early enough I wouldn't have this allergy to coffee now.
>
> "Ermac77" <gordonzzz6@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:531el1568tt3o4b48v0d1h49u1st20c7bv@4ax.com...
> > It sounds like you were probably tweaking when you wrote this. I used
> > to tweak a bit, and I'd usually get this "intellectual-sounding,
> > vindictive" tone you exhibit here.
> >
> > Am I correct in any way? Were you at least drinking coffee?
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:16:23 -0400, "Pizza Girl." <no.s.pam@5.me>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Children should all be given Ritalin starting at 3-5 months similar to
> vaccine
> > >routines to avoid ADD and ADHD in their later years.
> > >
> > >This basic dosage should be "boosted" before each school session,
> Kindergarten,
> > >Grade 7 and Grade 9 entry. If the parents refuse to follow this
recognized
> and
> > >documented course of medication, admission to educational facilities
should
> be
> > >refused, as they could communicate their possible hyperactive
behaviour to
> the
> > >other children and start a plague of hyperactivity.
> > >
> > >Legislation needs to be passed to stop these "unvaccinated" children
from
> making
> > >any contact with other children in private educational institutions
also.
> > >
> > >Religious reasons may be grounds for refusal of these needed
medications but
> > >children of parents choosing this course of action will be shunned by
any
> > >society functions or groups. Legislation to label this as "child abuse"
will
> be
> > >discussed at our earliest convenience to avoid independent or open
thinking
> by
> > >these mutinous, society outcasts having no consideration for their
children
> or
> > >the safety of society as a whole. Charges may be laid after legislation
is
> > >complete in order to save our children from these delinquent parents
and a
> life
> > >of misery.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Psi" <usenetmike@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >news:1129673376.609642.323090@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > >> Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda
> > >> http://groups.msn.com/psychbusters
> > >>
> > >
>
>
>

In article <hNU7f.3047$Lv.1757@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net>,
<kureforcrohns@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>We as a nation and the other nations using Ritalin, and anti-depressants
>are headed into an abyss.

Nope, you've got that backwards. Major depression is very like heading
into an abyss, or even falling head first into an abyss. Anti-depressants
can prevent that.

That's called 'chipping.'

Dear Pizza Girl,

You seem to need serious help.
How can you recommend Ritalin as a vaccine?!?!? I'm trully shocked!
Mostly because of the way you state it... as if it should be «normal».
ADD is nothing but another result of our own fear and inability to deal
with our own children. Of course kids and adolescents have problems,
hiper active behaviours, can't stay focused for long... etc etc.. that's
is why they are children and adolescents... that is why growing is
always painful... even in the best environment.
We must accompany children, help them... not drug them! That is the
easiest way out.. keep them numb... make them all equal.. kill
personality.. if we make photocopies of them it's must easier, right?
(Gee.. wouldn't that turn this world into a really boring grey landscape?)

/Ana



Pizza Girl. wrote:
> I don't drink coffee. If my parents would have saturated my system with Ritalin
> early enough I wouldn't have this allergy to coffee now.
>
> "Ermac77" <gordonzzz6@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:531el1568tt3o4b48v0d1h49u1st20c7bv@4ax.com...
>
>>It sounds like you were probably tweaking when you wrote this. I used
>>to tweak a bit, and I'd usually get this "intellectual-sounding,
>>vindictive" tone you exhibit here.
>>
>>Am I correct in any way? Were you at least drinking coffee?
>>
>>
>>On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:16:23 -0400, "Pizza Girl." <no.s.pam@5.me>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Children should all be given Ritalin starting at 3-5 months similar to
>
> vaccine
>
>>>routines to avoid ADD and ADHD in their later years.
>>>
>>>This basic dosage should be "boosted" before each school session,
>
> Kindergarten,
>
>>>Grade 7 and Grade 9 entry. If the parents refuse to follow this recognized
>
> and
>
>>>documented course of medication, admission to educational facilities should
>
> be
>
>>>refused, as they could communicate their possible hyperactive behaviour to
>
> the
>
>>>other children and start a plague of hyperactivity.
>>>
>>>Legislation needs to be passed to stop these "unvaccinated" children from
>
> making
>
>>>any contact with other children in private educational institutions also.
>>>
>>>Religious reasons may be grounds for refusal of these needed medications but
>>>children of parents choosing this course of action will be shunned by any
>>>society functions or groups. Legislation to label this as "child abuse" will
>
> be
>
>>>discussed at our earliest convenience to avoid independent or open thinking
>
> by
>
>>>these mutinous, society outcasts having no consideration for their children
>
> or
>
>>>the safety of society as a whole. Charges may be laid after legislation is
>>>complete in order to save our children from these delinquent parents and a
>
> life
>
>>>of misery.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Psi" <usenetmike@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1129673376.609642.323090@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>>Decoding Psychiatric Propaganda
>>>>http://groups.msn.com/psychbusters
>>>>
>>>
>
>