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Need for Hindi scientific vocabulary Times News Network Saturday, September 27, 2003 Lukhnow - Does the term ozone 'kavach' convey more sense than its English counterpart 'ozone layer'? Is 'gathiya' a better word for pain in the joints, than arthritis? Hindi, almost, provides a word for everything. But not always. But the Hindi diction of scientific terms is not quite common and abundant. The scientific terms in English which are well-known, lose their sense when converted to Hindi. A prominent scientist cites a few of them like 'vehicle control' and 'windmill'. A researcher in Industrial Toxicology Research Centre (ITRC) said the problem lies in the fact that Hindi lacks in some terms, while English takes a lead with its simpler alternatives. Rather, the Hindi ones may remain uncommon due to their less or nil usage. ITRC scientist Jai Raj Behari says: "It becomes difficult to translate a technical English word into Hindi in a literal manner, for it may change the meaning. However, scientists do not refrain from using and propagating their mother tongue while at work, he adds. ITRC researchers are unanimous that persistent efforts should be made to develop simple Hindi words which do not spoil the soul of the expression. Another scientist at ITRC is of the opinion that it was impossible for research to be done in one language and, therefore, "we need to accommodate other languages too. People also hesitate in using the literally translated Hindi terms which, sometimes, sound weird." Director ITRC, Prof YK Gupta states: "The opinion of scientific experts are a must, when English to Hindi research translations are in process". However, he added that Hindi has improved over the years, because of the efforts of Doordarshan which disseminates useful information in Hindi. Gupta also stresses on the need to start developing Hindi vocabulary for upcoming fields of biotechnology and information technology, among others. Read the complete news at: http://www.timesofindia.com News Plus http://www.mantra.com/newsplus Jai Maharaj http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti Panchaang for 18 Ashvin 5104, Monday, October 13, 2003: Shubhanu Nama Samvatsare Dakshinaya Jeevan Ritau Kanya Mase Krishna Pakshe Indu Vasara Yuktayam Krittik Nakshatr Siddhi-Vyatipat Yog Bav-Balav Karan Chaturthi Yam Tithau Hindu Holocaust Museum http://www.mantra.com/holocaust Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy http://www.hindu.org http://www.hindunet.org The truth about Islam and Muslims http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may not have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. o Posted for information and discussion. Views expressed by others are not necessarily those of the poster. |
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An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote in message news:<language- 1518.20031013@news.mantra.com>... > Need for Hindi scientific vocabulary > > Times News Network Saturday, September 27, 2003 > > Lukhnow - Does the term ozone 'kavach' convey more sense than its English counterpart 'ozone > layer'? Is 'gathiya' a better word for pain in the joints, than arthritis? Hindi, almost, provides > a word for everything. > > But not always. But the Hindi diction of scientific terms is not quite common and abundant. > > The scientific terms in English which are well-known, lose their sense when converted to Hindi. > > A prominent scientist cites a few of them like 'vehicle control' and 'windmill'. A researcher in > Industrial Toxicology Research Centre (ITRC) said the problem lies in the fact that Hindi lacks in > some terms, while English takes a lead with its simpler alternatives. Rather, the Hindi ones may > remain uncommon due to their less or nil usage. > > ITRC scientist Jai Raj Behari says: "It becomes difficult to translate a technical English word > into Hindi in a literal manner, for it may change the meaning. However, scientists do not refrain > from using and propagating their mother tongue while at work, he adds. > > ITRC researchers are unanimous that persistent efforts should be made to develop simple Hindi > words which do not spoil the soul of the expression. > > Another scientist at ITRC is of the opinion that it was impossible for research to be done in one > language and, therefore, "we need to accommodate other languages too. People also hesitate in > using the literally translated Hindi terms which, sometimes, sound weird." > > Director ITRC, Prof YK Gupta states: "The opinion of scientific experts are a must, when English > to Hindi research translations are in process". However, he added that Hindi has improved over the > years, because of the efforts of Doordarshan which disseminates useful information in Hindi. Gupta > also stresses on the need to start developing Hindi vocabulary for upcoming fields of > biotechnology and information technology, among others. > > Read the complete news at: http://www.timesofindia.com > > News Plus http://www.mantra.com/newsplus > > Jai Maharaj http://www.mantra.com/jai Om Shanti > > Panchaang for 18 Ashvin 5104, Monday, October 13, 2003: > > Shubhanu Nama Samvatsare Dakshinaya Jeevan Ritau Kanya Mase Krishna Pakshe Indu Vasara Yuktayam > Krittik Nakshatr Siddhi-Vyatipat Yog Bav-Balav Karan Chaturthi Yam Tithau > > Hindu Holocaust Museum http://www.mantra.com/holocaust > > Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy http://www.hindu.org http://www.hindunet.org > > The truth about Islam and Muslims http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate > > o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the educational purposes of research > and open discussion. The contents of this post may not have been authored by, and do not > necessarily represent the opinion of the poster. The contents are protected by copyright law > and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. o If you send private e-mail to me, it > will likely not be read, considered or answered if it does not contain your full legal name, > current e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number. o Posted for > information and discussion. Views expressed by others are not necessarily those of the > poster. |
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"Great Parayan" <parayan@blackplanet.com> wrote in message news:8a33bb0.0310140354.66c08a9@posting.google.com... > An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. > We already have them. m. |
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Great Parayan wrote: > > An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. > What is devil? People whose mother tongue is not English are more and more using English terms. Is it right? English is very easy and simple language (except for one thing - in many cases you say words different from what is written). But this does not mean we should give up all other languages. There are things that can't be described in English. Sanskrit is very special language. From various studies we can deduct that it is the origin of other languages. Why should we giv up such special language? Also sanskrit is written in Devanagari (if you know sanskrit you know what it means) so how it can be evil? Risha |
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"mUs1Ka" <mUs1Ka@exite.com> wrote in message news:<bmh3a2$mvq91$1@ID-193735.news.uni-berlin.de>... > "Great Parayan" <parayan@blackplanet.com> wrote in message > news:8a33bb0.0310140354.66c08a9@posting.google.com... > > An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. > > > We already have them. > m. Through centuries of brahminc corrision... |
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Richard Bonk wrote: > Great Parayan wrote: > >>An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. > > What is devil? People whose mother tongue is not English are more and more using English terms. Is > it right? English is very easy and simple language (except for one thing - in many cases you say > words different from what is written). But this does not mean we should give up all other > languages. There are things that can't be described in English. Sanskrit is very special language. > From various studies we can deduct that it is the origin of other languages. Why should we giv up > such special language? > > Also sanskrit is written in Devanagari (if you know sanskrit you know what it means) so how it can > be evil? If a person's name is Dev, is it impossible for him to be evil? |
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"M. Ranjit Mathews" wrote: > > Richard Bonk wrote: > > Great Parayan wrote: > > > >>An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. > > > > What is devil? People whose mother tongue is not English are more and more using English terms. > > Is it right? English is very easy and simple language (except for one thing - in many cases you > > say words different from what is written). But this does not mean we should give up all other > > languages. There are things that can't be described in English. Sanskrit is very special > > language. From various studies we can deduct that it is the origin of other languages. Why > > should we giv up such special language? > > > > Also sanskrit is written in Devanagari (if you know sanskrit you know what it means) so how it > > can be evil? > > If a person's name is Dev, is it impossible for him to be evil? It's like with knife. You can use knife for cutting bread or to harm someone but it's not fault of knife! You can't say that promoting Sanskrit is evil. What I am saying is that Sanskrit is very special. What can be evil on promoting it? Can you explain this? Evil is that some people would like to destroy all other languages and leave only English!!! This is the biggest EVIL PLOT!!! Risha |
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"M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message news:<sCejb.57063$mQ2.23879@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>... > Richard Bonk wrote: > > Great Parayan wrote: > > > >>An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. > > > > What is devil? People whose mother tongue is not English are more and more using English terms. > > Is it right? English is very easy and simple language (except for one thing - in many cases you > > say words different from what is written). But this does not mean we should give up all vother > > languages. There are things that can't be described in English. Sanskrit is very special > > language. From various studies we can deduct that it is the origin of other languages. Why > > should we giv up such special language? > > People who promote and love sanskrit have done a great damage to culture of various ethnic groups of India. It has killed and molested many languages. Promoters who claims they are gods labeled other languages as inferior. Indians have undue and unreasonable reverence towards sanskrit. Besides, most of racist books are written in Sanskrit. Dalits are the living victims of these evil books and this evil language. Whereas English just like any other language (of course except sankrit) is beautiful. Great Great Great Dr. B.R Ambedkar used English as a medium of his thoughts. So English has an unique position among great languages of the world. All the racists oppress Dalits uttering gibberish (mantras) in sanskrit. English helped Indians see other great cultures outside India. Most of Indian elite know English and discourage others from learning it. This kind of double-face is hallmark of Indian elite who claim most cultured people of the world and who contempt and oppress poor people of India. Most racist bastards of the world (none other than brahmins) use sanskrit, that itself is the reason of sanskrit's evil connection. What make these racists to do most inhuman atrocities? Is it their language or their culture? What make them proud of their blood-sucking tradition? > > Also sanskrit is written in Devanagari (if you know sanskrit you know what it means) so how it > > can be evil? Who believes in their boasting and self-praising? It is others to say how good sanskrit is. > > If a person's name is Dev, is it impossible for him to be evil? If sanskrit is wiped off from the earth, 800 million people of India who are considered as useless and a disgrace will escape from the shackles and they will be able to contribute to the progress of the world along with other people of the world. Now the same 800 million people think that only brahmin bastards are capable of doing something worthwhile. Do you still say sanskrit is gods' language? If gods know only this bloody language and they are unable to learn other languages, do you respect such stupid gods? Are they true gods or something else like Devils? Why do fear to call a Devil, Devil and a brahmin, brahmin? [If some languages can be divine, then some languages could be evil also] |
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Richard Bonk <R.Bonk@ftel.co.uk> wrote > Risha Why a lovely name such as 'Risha' gets turned into 'Richard Bonk' ? |
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Richard Bonk wrote: > "M. Ranjit Mathews" wrote: > >>Richard Bonk wrote: >> >>>Great Parayan wrote: >>> >>> >>>>An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. >>> >>>What is devil? People whose mother tongue is not English are more and more using English terms. >>>Is it right? English is very easy and simple language (except for one thing - in many cases you >>>say words different from what is written). But this does not mean we should give up all other >>>languages. There are things that can't be described in English. Sanskrit is very special >>>language. From various studies we can deduct that it is the origin of other languages. Why should >>>we giv up such special language? >>> >>>Also sanskrit is written in Devanagari (if you know sanskrit you know what it means) so how it >>>can be evil? >> >>If a person's name is Dev, is it impossible for him to be evil? > > It's like with knife. You can use knife for cutting bread or to harm someone but it's not fault > of knife! Obviously. Since Sanskrit is not a person, it cannot be evil. That is not the point, though. The point is that if something has a good name, it does not automatically follow that it is good. > You can't say that promoting Sanskrit is evil. What I am saying is that Sanskrit is very special. > What can be evil on promoting it? Can you explain this? Suppose Karunanidi or Nedunchezian had been able to take over the Central government and pursue initiatives to promote Tamil all over India, perhaps even attempting to make it a compulsory language and issuing official declarations that it is the language of kaDavul (God). What can be evil in such promotion? Can you explain this? > Evil is that some people would like to destroy all other languages and leave only English!!! This > is the biggest EVIL PLOT!!! > > Risha |
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Great Parayan wrote: > > "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message > news:<sCejb.57063$mQ2.23879@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>... > > Richard Bonk wrote: > > > Great Parayan wrote: > > > > > >>An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. > > > > > > What is devil? People whose mother tongue is not English are more and more using English > > > terms. Is it right? English is very easy and simple language (except for one thing - in many > > > cases you say words different from what is written). But this does not mean we should give up > > > all vother languages. There are things that can't be described in English. Sanskrit is very > > > special language. From various studies we can deduct that it is the origin of other languages. > > > Why should we giv up such special language? > > > > > People who promote and love sanskrit have done a great damage to culture of various ethnic groups > of India. It has killed and molested many languages. Promoters who claims they are gods labeled > other languages as inferior. Indians have undue and unreasonable reverence towards sanskrit. > Besides, most of racist books are written in Sanskrit. > > Dalits are the living victims of these evil books and this evil language. > > Whereas English just like any other language (of course except sankrit) is beautiful. Great Great > Great Dr. B.R Ambedkar used English as a medium of his thoughts. So English has an unique position > among great languages of the world. > > All the racists oppress Dalits uttering gibberish (mantras) in sanskrit. > > English helped Indians see other great cultures outside India. Most of Indian elite know English > and discourage others from learning it. This kind of double-face is hallmark of Indian elite who > claim most cultured people of the world and who contempt and oppress poor people of India. > > Most racist bastards of the world (none other than brahmins) use sanskrit, that itself is the > reason of sanskrit's evil connection. > > What make these racists to do most inhuman atrocities? Is it their language or their culture? What > make them proud of their blood-sucking tradition? > > > > Also sanskrit is written in Devanagari (if you know sanskrit you know what it means) so how it > > > can be evil? > > Who believes in their boasting and self-praising? It is others to say how good sanskrit is. > > > > > If a person's name is Dev, is it impossible for him to be evil? > > If sanskrit is wiped off from the earth, 800 million people of India who are considered as useless > and a disgrace will escape from the shackles and they will be able to contribute to the progress > of the world along with other people of the world. Now the same 800 million people think that only > brahmin bastards are capable of doing something worthwhile. What has Sanskrit to do with peoples disgrace? It's just other people who are making distinction not Sanskrit! Get rid of those who do this and there is no problem. I don't undesrtand your point!!! It is not making any sense!!!! > > Do you still say sanskrit is gods' language? > > If gods know only this bloody language and they are unable to learn other languages, do you > respect such stupid gods? Are they true gods or something else like Devils? Why do fear to call a > Devil, Devil and a brahmin, brahmin? What Gods? You mean Devas? They are Demigods. God is only one! And they know other languages as well. It's just other languages are more limited in description and easy in missinterpretation. We, people, tend to missinterpret everything. Even Sanskrit. And we use our personal motives, covered by "worldly interest", to misguide and manipulate others for our own benefit and prestige!!! Why are you talking about 800 milion people - say what is YOUR problem!!!!! Is it envy? Do you envy that some people have power and you don't??? Do you envy that some have lots of money and you don't??? What is the source of your hate? > > [If some languages can be divine, then some languages could be evil also] What has Sanskrit to do with Brahmins? Sanskrit was spoken by all in past not hust Brahmins!!! Nowadays it seems that it's language of Brahmins because they know Sanskrit scriptures and can read them but it's not like that. Give other people education in Sanskrit and there is no problem. Also it were English who made India more troubles than good!!! By the way, it's Kaliyuga and there are no real Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas.....we are all shudras. So what's the problem? We like to blame others for our own faults and inability to do something. I was not born in Bharat Varsha, nor in England nor in Brahmin family....but still I know mantras, I can read Sanskrit sciprures etc. It was all possible only due to my hard work and dedication. Risha |
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Romanise wrote: > > Richard Bonk <R.Bonk@ftel.co.uk> wrote > > Risha > > Why a lovely name such as 'Risha' gets turned into 'Richard Bonk' ? Because I am writing from my work. And this is name I have to use in work. Risha |
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"M. Ranjit Mathews" wrote: > > Richard Bonk wrote: > > "M. Ranjit Mathews" wrote: > > > >>Richard Bonk wrote: > >> > >>>Great Parayan wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. > >>> > >>>What is devil? People whose mother tongue is not English are more and more using English terms. > >>>Is it right? English is very easy and simple language (except for one thing - in many cases you > >>>say words different from what is written). But this does not mean we should give up all other > >>>languages. There are things that can't be described in English. Sanskrit is very special > >>>language. From various studies we can deduct that it is the origin of other languages. Why > >>>should we giv up such special language? > >>> > >>>Also sanskrit is written in Devanagari (if you know sanskrit you know what it means) so how it > >>>can be evil? > >> > >>If a person's name is Dev, is it impossible for him to be evil? > > > > It's like with knife. You can use knife for cutting bread or to harm someone but it's not fault > > of knife! > > Obviously. Since Sanskrit is not a person, it cannot be evil. That is not the point, though. The > point is that if something has a good name, it does not automatically follow that it is good. > > > You can't say that promoting Sanskrit is evil. What I am saying is that Sanskrit is very > > special. What can be evil on promoting it? Can you explain this? > > Suppose Karunanidi or Nedunchezian had been able to take over the Central government and pursue > initiatives to promote Tamil all over India, perhaps even attempting to make it a compulsory > language and issuing official declarations that it is the language of kaDavul (God). What can be > evil in such promotion? Can you explain this? > > > Evil is that some people would like to destroy all other languages and leave only English!!! > > This is the biggest EVIL PLOT!!! > > > > Risha You are comming into extreme. Nobody is treying to make Sanskrit compulsory language all over India or any other place. What is promoted is to NOT FORGET Sanskrit. Not to let Sanskrit to become extinct!!! It is with any language. We don't need to give up our language to communicate. We can speak more languages. But people who speak only English tend to force others to use it rather than to learn other language. I myself can speak 7 languages and English is not my mother tongue! Risha |
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"R. Bonk" <R.Bonk@ftel.co.uk> wrote in message news:<3F8FD66B.9899F69@ftel.co.uk>... > Great Parayan wrote: > > > > "M. Ranjit Mathews" <ranjit_mathews@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message > > news:<sCejb.57063$mQ2.23879@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>... > > > Richard Bonk wrote: > > > > Great Parayan wrote: > > > > > > > >>An evil plot to replace people's words with sanskrit words for prmoting sanskrit. > > > > > > > > What is devil? People whose mother tongue is not English are more and more using English > > > > terms. Is it right? English is very easy and simple language (except for one thing - in many > > > > cases you say words different from what is written). But this does not mean we should give > > > > up all vother languages. There are things that can't be described in English. Sanskrit is > > > > very special language. From various studies we can deduct that it is the origin of other > > > > languages. Why should we giv up such special language? > > > > > > > > People who promote and love sanskrit have done a great damage to culture of various ethnic > > groups of India. It has killed and molested many languages. Promoters who claims they are gods > > labeled other languages as inferior. Indians have undue and unreasonable reverence towards > > sanskrit. Besides, most of racist books are written in Sanskrit. > > > > Dalits are the living victims of these evil books and this evil language. > > > > Whereas English just like any other language (of course except sankrit) is beautiful. Great > > Great Great Dr. B.R Ambedkar used English as a medium of his thoughts. So English has an unique > > position among great languages of the world. > > > > All the racists oppress Dalits uttering gibberish (mantras) in sanskrit. > > > > English helped Indians see other great cultures outside India. Most of Indian elite know English > > and discourage others from learning it. This kind of double-face is hallmark of Indian elite who > > claim most cultured people of the world and who contempt and oppress poor people of India. > > > > Most racist bastards of the world (none other than brahmins) use sanskrit, that itself is the > > reason of sanskrit's evil connection. > > > > What make these racists to do most inhuman atrocities? Is it their language or their culture? > > What make them proud of their blood-sucking tradition? > > > > > > Also sanskrit is written in Devanagari (if you know sanskrit you know what it means) so how > > > > it can be evil? > > > > Who believes in their boasting and self-praising? It is others to say how good sanskrit is. > > > > > > > > If a person's name is Dev, is it impossible for him to be evil? > > > > If sanskrit is wiped off from the earth, 800 million people of India who are considered as > > useless and a disgrace will escape from the shackles and they will be able to contribute to the > > progress of the world along with other people of the world. Now the same 800 million people > > think that only brahmin bastards are capable of doing something worthwhile. > > What has Sanskrit to do with peoples disgrace? It's just other people who are making distinction > not Sanskrit! Get rid of those who do this and there is no problem. I don't undesrtand your > point!!! It is not making any sense!!!! Language embodies culture. Since sanskrit users have done a great damage to india, I think we should stop and dicourage using it. Why should we take risk? > > > > > > Do you still say sanskrit is gods' language? > > > > If gods know only this bloody language and they are unable to learn other languages, do you > > respect such stupid gods? Are they true gods or something else like Devils? Why do fear to call > > a Devil, Devil and a brahmin, brahmin? > > What Gods? You mean Devas? They are Demigods. God is only one! And they know other languages as > well. It's just other languages are more limited in description and easy in missinterpretation. > We, people, tend to missinterpret everything. Even Sanskrit. And we use our personal motives, > covered by "worldly interest", to misguide and manipulate others for our own benefit and > prestige!!! > > Why are you talking about 800 milion people - say what is YOUR problem!!!!! Is it envy? Do you > envy that some people have power and you don't??? Do you envy that some have lots of money and you > don't??? What is the source of your hate? Sorry, I am not selfish. My problem is 800 million people of india live like animals. They do not have hopes. They think they are a disgrace. > > > > > [If some languages can be divine, then some languages could be evil also] > > > What has Sanskrit to do with Brahmins? Sanskrit was spoken by all in past not hust Brahmins!!! > Nowadays it seems that it's language of Brahmins because they know Sanskrit scriptures and can > read them but it's not like that. Give other people education in Sanskrit and there is no problem. > Also it were English who made India more troubles than good!!! By the way, it's Kaliyuga and there > are no real Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Vaishyas.....we are all shudras. Justifying and protecting perpetrators. What is real brahmin? One perfect hindu told me a real brahmin **** butter. He says god ram of ayodya, saibaba and all **** butter. He added anybody can **** butter, if he read hindu scripture sufficiently and become a brahmin and start ****ting butter. So what's the problem? We > like to blame others for our own faults and inability to do something. I was not born in Bharat > Varsha, nor in England nor in Brahmin family....but still I know mantras, I can read Sanskrit > sciprures etc. It was all possible only due to my hard work and dedication. > > > Risha |
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On 17 Oct 2003 21:16:55 -0700, Great Parayan wrote: > What is real brahmin? One perfect hindu told me a real brahmin **** butter. He says god ram of > ayodya, saibaba and all **** butter. He added anybody can **** butter, if he read hindu scripture > sufficiently and become a brahmin and start ****ting butter. > आपकी इच्छा पूरी हो । may you **** butter too. i've stopped eating butter already. |
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