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The boys and now the wife.

 
 
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Old 07-07.-2004, 10:02 PM   #16
Jim Artherholt
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Default Re: The boys and now the wife.

There is an excellent article on China in last Sunday's New
York Times Magazine. Worth reading to understand the impact
that China is having on the world economy, and the risks.

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J.Artherholt@comcast.net "Tom Keats" <tomk2003@hotmail.com>
wrote in message news:g6tfcc.ibs.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article
> <YXEGc.12379$Bv.1302421@twister.tampabay.rr.com>,
> "Gooserider" <gooserider@mouse-potato.com> writes:
>
> > So people is Chinese factories work a reasonable number
> > of hours for
good
> > pay and benefits, in a factory as safe as one in the US
> > or Europe?
Factories
> > in China meet the same environmental standars as those
> > in the US or
Europe?
>
> I dunno. Are Chinese standards & practices improving as
> they gain affluence through, and are influenced by, their
> increasing presence in the global marketplace? If they
> are, maybe it's not such a good idea to restrain that.
>
> All I know for sure is, Chinese workers have to eat and
> make a living, same as everybody else.
>
> I suspect it's pretty well impossible to totally boycott
> Chinese-made goods. Finished product might be assembled
> elsewhere, but there's a good chance many of the
> components are made in China. Especially electronic
> components. Maybe even a lot of the tooling and machinery
> that actually makes the product.
>
>
> cheers, Tom
>
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Old 07-07.-2004, 10:31 PM   #17
David Kerber
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In article <YXEGc.12379$Bv.1302421@twister.tampabay.rr.com>,
gooserider@mouse-potato.com says...
>
> "Michael J. Klein" <mklein@mousepotato.com> wrote in
> message news:j30le0t24m8cem6m5fc02m7ikgmdoruild@4ax.com...
> > On Mon, 05 Jul 2004 15:47:49 GMT, "Gooserider" <gooserider@mouse-
> > potato.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Michael J. Klein" <mklein@mousepotato.com> wrote in
> > >message > I was reffering specifically to the "slave
> > >labor" comment. Also, I'm
> > >> not going to discuss this issue with anyone who has
> > >> not been to China and spent time in rural factories.
> > >
> > >Please read and absorb this:
> > >
> > >http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/55/312.html
> > >
> > >http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/s642502.htm
> > >
> > >http://www.afpc.org/crm/crm305.htm
> > >
> > >I can list example after example, but that's
> > >unnecessary. Buying Chinese made products is wrong.
> > >It's wrong because exploiting poor people is
> wrong,
> > >and it's wrong because exporting jobs away from the US
> > >and Europe is
> wrong.
> > >I will not buy Chinese products, and I do not shop at
> > >WalMart. I'm sure, though, that your experiences in the
> > >factories are totally different that what Chinese
> > >factory workers report.
> >
> > In other words, you haven't been there. End of
> > discussion (like I said).
>
> So people is Chinese factories work a reasonable number of
> hours for good pay and benefits, in a factory as safe as
> one in the US or Europe? Factories in China meet the same
> environmental standars as those in the US or Europe?

The two extremes you've listed are hardly the only
possibilities; there is a huge area between them where most
of the world works.

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