Dishonest "Christian" Uses the Bible to Justify Habitat Destruction!

Chris

Mike,

I am not a Mtn Biker. Therefore I must not be a liar. You
need to destress. Maybe you should get off the computer more
often. Go for a walk or a bike ride or something.

PS- I think Moses rode a Mtn bike up to get the Ten
Commandments.

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 03:27:07 GMT, "Chris"
> <clgibbs@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> .He said nothing about the Bible or being a Christian. He
> said nothing .dishonest either. He just stated his
> opinion. He actually treated you .pretty nice considering
> the way you normally treat people. You need a
> .constructive hobby that does not include posting on
> internet news groups. . .The Bible is not a work of
> fiction,
>
> Why do mountain bikers ALWAYS find it necessary to LIE? I
> guess mountain
bikng
> is truly indefensible. Next you are going to say it's
> supported by the
Bible!
>
> however most of your post sure seem to .be. . .By the way
> if all enviromental nuts act like you, I'm glad I'm not
> one! . ."Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in
> message
> .news:25h4d09fv5be2b5va3112jjhhl5keie5rq@4ax.com... .>
> You are very dishonest to use a work of fiction (the
> Bible) to justify .your .> selfish destruction of
> wildlife habitat. If you are a Christian, I am
VERY
> .glad .> I am not! .> .> X-Apparently-To:
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> .> From: mel.maalouf@bently.com .> To: mjvande@pacbell.net
> .> Cc: peter_rissler@rissler.reno.nv.us .> Subject: RE:
> There are a few KooKs out there .> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004
> 12:21:03 -0400 .> MIME-Version: 1.0 .> X-Mailer: Internet
> Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) .> Content-Type: text/plain; .>
> charset="ISO-8859-1" .> .> Mike, .> .> I am sad to have
> read your email. Here in Nevada, we enjoy the
freedoms
> .of .> the outdoors like few places around the world. We
> are free to enjoy
the
> .> trails and roads by foot, bike, horse, motorcycle and
> off road vehicles
in
> .> many spots around the state. On the eastern slope of
> the sierra, many
of
> .> our towns and cities enjoy these excellent trails right
> outside our
city
> .> limits. The experience is exhilarating and also allows
> riders to ride
UP
> .> the hills for a good work out, enjoy the excellent
> views from up high .(where .> hikers would take days to
> access) and descend the smooth sinuating
single
> .> track. .> .> I know, personally, the person who
> constructed Cow Trail. The trail
was
> .> done specifically for riding, with attention to
> drainage, vegetation
and
> .> fun. Many types of users now use the trail and other
> trails that are .linked .> to it. He and others worked
> hard and long to ensure that the trail
would
> .> last and not affect the wildlife around. Much of the
> land here in
Nevada
> .> is dirt, and therefore is easy to construct trails
> that do not damage .> vegetation. And, I have never heard
> of anyone killing an animal due to .> riding. .> .> It is
> sad that you think that what others choose to do with
> their time
and
> .> money is a waste of time. I think that is pretty short
> sighted and
closed
> .> minded to think that your views on what is suitable to
> do on your spare .time .> is the only effective way to
> spend our leisurely time. That type of .> intolerance is
> closing in on fascism and is counter to American and
> .Nevadan .> values. It sounds like you are from the
> Republic of California. Much
of
> .> the increase in our population are from Californians
> escaping the grips
of
> .> the government and high costs of the taxes there.
> Please keep your .agendas .> limited to your own area.
> Better yet, just forget about them. What
good
> .is .> it to have wilderness if people cannot responsibly
> access it and enjoy? .It .> is like having a treasure
> buried in the ground for no one to use. God .gave .> man
> dominion over the earth for our pleasure and livelihood.
> It is our .duty .> to responsibly use its resources
> responsibly as a gift from heaven. .> .> Mel. .> Native
> Nevadan .> Freedom Fighter .> .> .> Hey all, .> .> Just
> received an email about the Bull Ranch - Cow Canyon
> Video. It
seems a
> .> well know opponent to MT biking is using the video to
> thrash Mountain .> Biking. I was wondering why there was
> so many downloads, maybe I should .send .> him a thank you
> email? Below is the email. Just for your information
most
> .of .> the trails in the video are Motorcycle Trails,
> still a great place to .ride. .> Now I need to go clean
> the road kill off my bike. If only I can get off .the .>
> couch because of my aching back. .> .> Pete .> -----------
> .> From: Mike Vandeman [mailto:mjvande@pacbell.net] .>
> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 6:43 AM .> To: Recipient
> list suppressed .> Subject: Please Watch This Video! .> .>
> It was shot from a mountain bike. It shows EXACTLY what a
> waste of time .> mountain biking is. The riders pass
> through some beautiful country, but .> obviously too fast
> to SEE or EXPERIENCE any of it! That's like treating .>
> dancing as if it were just a means of getting from one
> side of a room
to
> .the .> other. How sad! .> .> You can also see the rutting
> that mountain biking causes in the trail.
And
> .> notice how the camera continually bumps up and down.
> The rider is .> experiencing every one of those bumps. It
> would be amazing, if that .rattling .> didn't damage their
> bodies. I tried it once, on a dirt road. It was .>
> absolutely the most unpleasant time I have ever spent in a
> park in my .life. .> Why anyone would want to do that to
> themselves (to say nothing of doing
it
> .> to the park, wildlife, and other trail users) is beyond
> me. .> .> It is also clear that it is IMPOSSIBLE to be
> aware of all the small .animals .> and plants killed on
> this ride. The rider is going too fast, and has to .give
> .> his full attention to not crashing. .> .> P.S. It's
> best to watch it over a high-speed Internet connection. .>
> .> "Here's a video off our local mountain (Peavine) here
> in Reno, NV.
About
> .7.5 .> mins, 70 MB. Video shot in April. .> http://www.tccycling.com/videos/bull_ranch-
> cow_canyon.mpg" .> === .> I am working on creating
> wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans .> ("pure
> habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years
> fighting .auto .> dependence and road construction.) .> .>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande .> .> === .> I am working
> on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to .>
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the
> previous 8 .> years fighting auto dependence and road
> construction.) .> .> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande .
>
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-
> limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent
> the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road
> construction.)
>
> http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande