Dublin Girl Accuses Tour Hero

limerickman

First off, Armstrong lost his appeal to have the book amended
with an addition stating that LA denies all use of performance enhancing drugs - he appeal was rejected in France yesterday.

Let me give another radio interview which David Walsh and
Geoffrey Wheatcroft gave to Today FM in Ireland yesterday
with Matt Cooper, the shows host :

MC :"Welcome to DW and GW for our TDF preview.DW - you were at the LA press conference - how did it go ?"
DW "LA had his press conference here yesterday and I was there as part of the press entourage"
MC :"And his appeal against your book LA Confidential ?"DW "His appeal was dismissed by a French judge"MC "Do you still feel that you have provided compelling evidence in your book, David ?"
DW "I do, Matt, there is 375 pages of details about LA - a lot of which was unknown and we have extensive interviews with people who have been with LA throughout his career - so yes I believe my evidence is compelling"
MC : "Geoffrey Wheatcroft are you looking forward to this TDF ?"GW "well I am very much torn now.The TDF is a wonderful event but like David I don't know if what I am watching is genuine and this is a great difficulty for me
Every cyclist has passed their drug test but this no means nothing.
Drug testing has no credibility as far as I am concerned.
Every test showed that Virenque, Millar and Armstrong are clean and have been clean.
We now know that Virenque wasn't clean - we no know Millar wasn't clean - is it fair to think that Armstrong isn't clean ?
My view is yes, it is fair to think that LA isn't clean - given what
we know about the peloton"

GW "No one appears to fail a drug test these days.In 1998, Festina passed their drug tests and a couple of days later a bootfull of drugs were uncovered on it's way to Ireland - so no I am tornabout the entire TDF and cycling"
MC "And the Scottish rider David Millar ?"GW "Indeed seeing the news about Millar is just crushing. Every time we seem to make progress, another case is uncovered"
MC "And Marco Pantani dying earlier this year ?"GW "Yes, it has been a terrible year"
DW "If I could just add, the cost in human life in cycling has been too high.No one in the sport appears to care - managers, organiser or journalists. It is horrible.If I could focus on Millar - he told the judge yesterday about EPO. He told him that he kept the syringes as souvenirs at home - it's almost as if cyclists cannot function without EPO these days"

MC "You mean to tell me that he actually got up in front of a judge and told him that he kept these syringes as a keepsake ?!!You can picture him in his retirement with his grandchild, saying "well son here are my syringesthat I used when I was racing".It's sick.Surely this is how low cycling has come ?"DW "Indeed I am afraid that it is how far it has sunk"
MC " Well I was going to ask each of you who you think was going to win the 2004 Tour but I second thoughts I don't really care about it anymore - do you ?
"GW "It is now very hard to reatian any enthuiasm for the TDF given what has been uncovered and Davidsbook"
DW "Poeple are sceptical now - the sports credibility is in trouble I think".
MC "I think we have to leave the interview at that.We'll talk again next week but to be honest given all this doping, I'm not sure it's worth it.DW and GW, thank you"

This is the view of the people commentating on the sport.

This morning BBC's John Inverdale said "The TDF and cycling is in
a terrible state, is it credible anymore"
Chris Boardman "In a word - no"

That is the view now - LA's credibility is openly being questioned
now as never before.

gntlmn

In "Lance Chronicles" on OLN, they showed Lance submitting a droplet of blood from his finger to one of his trainers as he was riding up a mountain. The trainer deposited the blood into a lactate tester, and it was as he said, much lower than the rest. The reading pulsed up to 4 and winked at 5. Lance said most cyclists have readings above 10, like 11. He said he is at anaerobic threshold at around 5. That's a huge difference.

This is why as the drug tests become more and more advanced, as they are this year, it will be harder and harder for others to keep up with Lance. As you know, I don't think he's doping. He has a natural advantage which becomes a greater advantage as the dopers are eliminated from the Tour.

Holocaust

Amazing how Nike can invent the Yellow LIVE WRONG bracelet and co-op Cancer patients in order to sell $300 sneakers. Amazing mass media deception.

Lance is a confirmed drug cheat with numerous drug busted alumni teammates and a convicted doper doctor, still he heads a Tax Exempt Foundation with ambiguous wellness goals, yet clear commercial marketing designs---to drive up Nike and Amercian Century product sales.

Cancer research for more drug sales or an elusive cure???
http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/online...rch/cancer.html

http://radio.weblogs.com/0135129/2004/03/17.html

Maybe Charles Manson should head the American Red Cross?

Hein-Verbruggen

Have to agree with these institutaion scams.

Anything and anyone receiving money from Nike is comprimised into deception.

Nike even funds dog fighting and animal torture. (Michael Vick, NFL QB)

tommyadrian5

wow, Doctor House = Hein Verbruggen.

New name, same old bullshit.

Hein-Verbruggen

Emma O'Reily is bullshit, eh?
I strongly disagree---Nike & Lance Pharmstrong are the supreme cycling fraud.

Greg Lemond agrees with this sentiment.

Thanks for coming. Bah bye!

1Easyrider

So LA's taken a Law Suit out has he?

Come on we all know he's riddled with the stuff

Bolter03

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Rhetorically, lets consider a couple things and see how the discussion goes.

If it was you and you just got done battling for my life with a bout of cancer would you allow anything near my body that could have an adverse effect?

However, let's say for example that he was using a testosterone supplement. Seeing as how he had both testicles removed would it be unusual for a doctor to prescribe it (I'm not a doctor so I don't know)? In that case if it is a part a medical treatment that any other person would have would it really be cheating? Would it be wrong if it was only he was only replacing something his body no longer produces?

On the other hand. I had a friend who managed to get poison ivy directly into his blood stream and was put on a massive dose of steroids to counteract it. Should he excuse himself from racing until it is cleared from his system? For my part, if it was me I would have to ask the doctor if it provides me with an athletic advantage and if so would have to bite the bullet and sit out.

1Easyrider

Absolutely NO! Out of order. If it was me I'd ask my doctor if it was on the banned list. If he said it was then you make the decision to either not to take it and compete or to take it and sit out of the comprtitions. It's not rocket science. Serious illness does not mean you can flaunt the laws.

Who was the silver winning British Downhill ski-ier who had his Silver medal withdrawn simply because he took an American VIC nasal spray for a cold. The British version of VIC was clean but you Americans beggar belief and he was hung out to dry. But Hey, our Lance was Ill so he can take dodgy substances.... it's medication.

Come on.

Bolter03

Understood and good points. That's why I ask the question. So a couple thoughts come to mind after you mention the skier (an obsurd situation how does one get a competive advantage in Downhill Sking from a cold medication pushes the envelope) as I think there have been situations whereby asthma sufferers suffer the same fate. Recall the PGA golfer who was handicapped and wanted to use a cart?

I think the argument can be made that if you have a condition and the resultant medication gives you an advantage then you can't compete.

Maybe something that will have to be explored some more as better prosethic limbs are developed. Do we allow a cyclist or a baseball pitcher to compete if their bionic prosethic limb is better than the origional?

1Easyrider

If you're ill you're ill and your performance would normally suffer. Therefore, if you took a medication to overcome the symptons of illness then it has to classed as performance enhancing, even if it's a nasal spray and if you take it to extremes, an aspirin for a headache.

With regards to prosthetics and bionic limbs, I thought that's why we had Paralympic games?