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Old 22-07.-2004, 08:54 AM   #91
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If Jan and Andréas work together and attack Ivan Basso they might just make it to the podium and secure for themselves a third and second place finish. This is the only way I see Ulrich making it to the podium.

The race is now for 2nd and 3rd place as 1st place has already been decided.

Just wondering if Jan can make time on Basso in the last two days in the Alps, enough to overcome him in the final TT which is quite long. Jan has a reputation of finishing very strong. What is Basso's results in other long TT (55 Km)? I would like to see Jan podium in second place. As a professional cyclist Jan is a fighter and won't go down easily. The battle for second will be the battle to watch in these final few days.
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Old 22-07.-2004, 02:07 PM   #92
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im quite new to cycling and TDF, but im puzzled as to why spectators dress up as devils. what's that got to do with cycling?

well, it's quite obvious as far as i'm concerned... the guy is trying to make a point about how hard the whole deal is, maybe as close as going through hell ?!... hmmm...
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Old 22-07.-2004, 05:22 PM   #93
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Just wondering if Jan can make time on Basso in the last two days in the Alps, enough to overcome him in the final TT which is quite long. Jan has a reputation of finishing very strong. What is Basso's results in other long TT (55 Km)? I would like to see Jan podium in second place. As a professional cyclist Jan is a fighter and won't go down easily. The battle for second will be the battle to watch in these final few days.

From what I understand, Basso is not much of an ITT rider, and we all know Ulrich can be exceptionally good in those, so I fully expect Ulrich to gain some serious time on such a long ITT. I don't know about Kloden. Unfortunately for JU and Kloden, they are still too close to Lance for USPS to let them go out on their own too far without reeling them in, and CSC would definitely help USPS at that point to protect Basso's podium position, and I'm not sure that JU would get the support by team management to attack on his own at the expense of Klodens' podium spot.

It's just a hunch, but I think that the stage today will feature breaks by guys like Virenque who are out of contention, but the major players will be fairly closely watched, which will leave the ITT to determine which of the three contenders will share the podium with Lance. Assuming, of course, that there isn't some sort of huge disaster....

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Old 22-07.-2004, 05:49 PM   #94
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Does anyone know what gearing was being used up the Alpe yesterday? The comentators kept refering to crank lengths, bike weights etc, is it published anywhere?
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Does anyone know what gearing was being used up the Alpe yesterday? The comentators kept refering to crank lengths, bike weights etc, is it published anywhere?

lance and landis really closed the gap today...
sasestre almostr got away....but that was amazing when lance got to the summit..
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I actually like Bob Roll! He makes fun of the french by saying it his way.

I don't think OLN should get rid of him. In fact, one thing OLN did well was to get rid of that blondie Kirsten or Krystin (don't remember her name now) they had in the past hosting with Bob. Now, she was pretty annoying....I guess, OLN got a lot of p.o viewers complaining about her lack of cycling knowledge.



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Screw it. Let Bob Roll pronounce it as he wants. If the rules can be changed to disfavor the TTT, Bob is in his right to butcher "de". If they want it pronounced correctly, spell it correctly. Tour da France.

Oh well, next year it will be on Discovery Channel anyhow and OLN will let him go. Ligget and Sherwin will be picked up but Gum and Roll are goners.
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I actually like Bob Roll! He makes fun of the french by saying it his way.

I don't think OLN should get rid of him. In fact, one thing OLN did well was to get rid of that blondie Kirsten or Krystin (don't remember her name now) they had in the past hosting with Bob. Now, she was pretty annoying....I guess, OLN got a lot of p.o viewers complaining about her lack of cycling knowledge.


Regardless, we beat the Frnech again
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Regardless, we beat the Frnech again



hahahaha! yeap! We did it one more time!!!!!
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Old 16-07.-2005, 04:39 AM   #100
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What does it mean, ie, what is the rule when they say a rider is "dropped" from the peloton?
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Wow! You resurrected an old thread with this question!

When a rider is referred to as being "dropped", it simply means that he is no longer able to maintain the pace of the peloton (or whatever group he may be riding with) and thus falls off the back, no longer able to keep up.
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Wow! You resurrected an old thread with this question!

When a rider is referred to as being "dropped", it simply means that he is no longer able to maintain the pace of the peloton (or whatever group he may be riding with) and thus falls off the back, no longer able to keep up.

And if he rides faster and catches up, he can be back in? This is not an end to the man's ride, is it?
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And if he rides faster and catches up, he can be back in? This is not an end to the man's ride, is it?


No, it's definitely not the end for a dropped rider. They can pull it together and catch back up to the group if they have it in them. It seemed as though Voekler was dropped a dozen times last year only to regroup and make it back to the peloton!
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Old 16-07.-2005, 05:39 AM   #104
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No, it's definitely not the end for a dropped rider. They can pull it together and catch back up to the group if they have it in them. It seemed as though Voekler was dropped a dozen times last year only to regroup and make it back to the peloton!

Thanks, Meahs.
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Thanks, Meahs.


No problem. One caveat I just thought of though. There is a time limit that's calculated for each stage. It's some weird percentage of the finishing time of the peloton or something like that (some coefficient they use based on the difficulty of the stage, etc...). Anyway if a rider is dropped and subsequently falls so far back that he fails to finish the stage within the deadline, the rider is out of the race. So in that instance being dropped can mean the end for a rider. That's what happened to Jens Voight this year. Yellow jersey one day, out of the race the next. Poor bastard!
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