A Travesty

jim gravity

Sonarrat <sonarrat@stormloader.com> wrote in message news
>
> Looking at this, I see too many unique cases to make the sweeping
> generalizations I made earlier in this thread... what I do notice is
> that Americans are entering the European peloton at a healthy rate right
> now, and there have been a lot of moves this year...
>
> -Sonarrat.

Don't forget Clinger.

Nev Shea

"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in news:107p6qs4oost21
@corp.supernews.com:

>> > Sonarrat wrote:
>> > >
>> > > None of the ex-Posties who went on to success could have done so
>> > > without being on USPS first.
>
> Julich has managed to have success without being on USPS.


heh. Ok, we can assume that Sonarrat is excluding success that might be
attributed to, um, extra medication while Bobby rode for Cofidis.

NS

Kyle Legate

Sonarrat wrote:
> In article <95c15282950c5d03c44cc4b3e2af29d4@news.teranews.com>,
> "Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Sonarrat wrote:
>>>
>>> None of the ex-Posties who went on to success could have done so
>>> without being on USPS first.
>>>
>> There's a bold claim. Why do you think it's true?
>
> First, because of Johan Bruyneel's skill as a DS,
>
The posties who left Postal became successful when they did not have
Bruyneel as a DS any longer.

> and second, more
> importantly, because the team represented the cream of the American
> crop and gave them important exposure in major European races.
>
I guess the Aussies are still waiting for an Australian-based team to help
them make it big in Europe, then.

Sonarrat

jim_gravity@my-deja.com (jim gravity) wrote in message news:<febcdd69.0404140627.2f76c244@posting.google.com>...
> Sonarrat <sonarrat@stormloader.com> wrote in message news
> >
> > Looking at this, I see too many unique cases to make the sweeping
> > generalizations I made earlier in this thread... what I do notice is
> > that Americans are entering the European peloton at a healthy rate right
> > now, and there have been a lot of moves this year...
> >
> > -Sonarrat.
>
> Don't forget Clinger.

You're absolutely right... trap-friis.dk overlooked him. I'll email Lars...

-Sonarrat.

Nev Shea

"Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:532ce85d69239a80de84b91c49ac0f72@news.teranews.com:

> Sonarrat wrote:
>> In article <95c15282950c5d03c44cc4b3e2af29d4@news.teranews.com>,
>> "Kyle Legate" <legatek@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Sonarrat wrote:
>>>>
>>>> None of the ex-Posties who went on to success could have done so
>>>> without being on USPS first.
>>>>
>>> There's a bold claim. Why do you think it's true?
>>
>> First, because of Johan Bruyneel's skill as a DS,
>>
> The posties who left Postal became successful when they did not have
> Bruyneel as a DS any longer.

But they got hired away as "promotions" to be team leaders. The argument
can be made that Bruyneel's skill was in identifying and developing their
talent. Remember too that Livingston was supposed to be "the man" for the
Linda McCartney team. And I'll bet Landis the next one to get poached.
But without Postal, a lot of these guys could be riding for Jelly Belly.

Sheesh! Where's Henry? He piss all over you with the same arguments he
made on this topic sometime within the past year, dumbass.

>> and second, more
>> importantly, because the team represented the cream of the American
>> crop and gave them important exposure in major European races.
>>
> I guess the Aussies are still waiting for an Australian-based team to
> help them make it big in Europe, then.


If there was an Aussie team similar to USPS, perhaps there would be
double the number of prominent Aussies in the Euro peloton. Until we get
something like a Foster's Lager presented by Kangaroo Floors team, we
really won't know.

NS