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Show me when Johan has ever beaten Magnus in a sprint.

 
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Old 13-04.-2004, 11:19 AM   #16
Howard Kveck
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Default Re: Show me when Johan has ever beaten Magnus in a sprint.

In article <3f41cdbc.0404120746.45915fcb@posting.google.com>,
ronaldo_jeremiah@yahoo.com (Ronaldo Jeremiah) wrote:

> Howard Kveck <YOURhoward@h-SHOESbomb.com> wrote in message
> news:<YOURhoward-D0A797.23201011042004@netnews.comcast.net>...


> > Was the blue line rule in effect (heh)?

>
> That's not the line you mean.


Hahaha, you're right, RJ. The one I mentioned is under ice, and is
usually used in a hockey game. This was obviously a case of "listen to what
I mean, not what I say"... SHARKS!!!! heh.

> Nevertheless, those roadies always ride the velodrome weird at the end
> of PR. Fatigue must have something to do with it, but you can also
> see that they mostly lack experience and understanding of the track.
> Look at the finish line photo (this year, and almost any other year) -
> they're all well above the sprinter's lane, which should be the
> fastest place to be.
>
> Side note: A recent PR profile on cyclingnews refers to the Roubaix
> track as being 333m in length - isn't it a 400m vel?


The last time I checked, it was a 400. Go here and scroll down a bit:
<http://home.nordnet.fr/~jvallaeys/velodrome.htm>

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Old 13-04.-2004, 12:07 PM   #17
Other Jeff Jones
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Default Re: Show me when Johan has ever beaten Magnus in a sprint.

Carl Sundquist wrote:

>> And considering [Cancellara] turned 23 less
>>than a month ago, and already has better instincts and more willpower
>>than Hincapie or Boonen, he clearly has an illustrious career ahead of
>>him.
>>

>
>
> What a dumbass statement.
>
> Does Cancellara automatically have better instincts and more willpower than
> everyone who finished lower than fourth?


No. I don't mean necessarily that his performance in Paris-Roubaix was
better than Tom Boonen's, although seeing him lead the peloton over the
Arenberg was awe-inspiring. No, I mean more than that... look at
Cancellara's palmares so far means more to me - he has 23 victories to
Boonen's 10, and of all different kinds, from the Swiss time-trial
championship to overall wins in stage races to bunch sprints. He's
simply fantastic.

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Old 13-04.-2004, 12:26 PM   #18
Carl Sundquist
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Default Re: Show me when Johan has ever beaten Magnus in a sprint.


"Other Jeff Jones" <jeffjones@stormloader.com> wrote in message
news:107mmbd1fsnmd3b@corp.supernews.com...
> Carl Sundquist wrote:
>
> >> And considering [Cancellara] turned 23 less
> >>than a month ago, and already has better instincts and more willpower
> >>than Hincapie or Boonen, he clearly has an illustrious career ahead of
> >>him.
> >>

> >
> >
> > What a dumbass statement.
> >
> > Does Cancellara automatically have better instincts and more willpower

than
> > everyone who finished lower than fourth?

>
> No. I don't mean necessarily that his performance in Paris-Roubaix was
> better than Tom Boonen's, although seeing him lead the peloton over the
> Arenberg was awe-inspiring. No, I mean more than that... look at
> Cancellara's palmares so far means more to me - he has 23 victories to
> Boonen's 10, and of all different kinds, from the Swiss time-trial
> championship to overall wins in stage races to bunch sprints. He's
> simply fantastic.
>


Except when it comes to a four-up sprint.


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Old 13-04.-2004, 01:35 PM   #19
Other Jeff Jones
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Default Re: Show me when Johan has ever beaten Magnus in a sprint.

Carl Sundquist wrote:

> "Other Jeff Jones" <jeffjones@stormloader.com> wrote in message
> news:107mmbd1fsnmd3b@corp.supernews.com...
>
>>Carl Sundquist wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>And considering [Cancellara] turned 23 less
>>>>than a month ago, and already has better instincts and more willpower
>>>>than Hincapie or Boonen, he clearly has an illustrious career ahead of
>>>>him.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>What a dumbass statement.
>>>
>>>Does Cancellara automatically have better instincts and more willpower

>
> than
>
>>>everyone who finished lower than fourth?

>>
>>No. I don't mean necessarily that his performance in Paris-Roubaix was
>>better than Tom Boonen's, although seeing him lead the peloton over the
>>Arenberg was awe-inspiring. No, I mean more than that... look at
>>Cancellara's palmares so far means more to me - he has 23 victories to
>>Boonen's 10, and of all different kinds, from the Swiss time-trial
>>championship to overall wins in stage races to bunch sprints. He's
>>simply fantastic.
>>

>
>
> Except when it comes to a four-up sprint.


Yeah, that seems to be a Fassa/WC problem so far this season.

-Sonarrat.

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Old 14-04.-2004, 06:03 AM   #20
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Default Re: Show me when Johan has ever beaten Magnus in a sprint.

Other Jeff Jone wrote:
> Carl Sundquist wrote:
> > "Other Jeff Jones" <jeffjones@stormloader.com> wrote in message news-
> > :107mmbd1fsnmd3b@corp.supernews.comnews:107mmbd1fsnmd3b@corp.superne-
> > ws.com...
> >
> >>Carl Sundquist wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>>And considering [Cancellara] turned 23 less than a month ago, and
> >>>>already has better instincts and more willpower than Hincapie or
> >>>>Boonen, he clearly has an illustrious career ahead of him.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>What a dumbass statement.
> >>>
> >>>Does Cancellara automatically have better instincts and more
> >>>willpower

> >
> > than
> >
> >>>everyone who finished lower than fourth?
> >>
> >>No. I don't mean necessarily that his performance in Paris- Roubaix
> >>was better than Tom Boonen's, although seeing him lead the peloton
> >>over the Arenberg was awe-inspiring. No, I mean more than that... look
> >>at Cancellara's palmares so far means more to me - he has 23 victories
> >>to Boonen's 10, and of all different kinds, from the Swiss time-trial
> >>championship to overall wins in stage races to bunch sprints. He's
> >>simply fantastic.
> >>

> >
> >
> > Except when it comes to a four-up sprint.

> Yeah, that seems to be a Fassa/WC problem so far this season.
> -Sonarrat.




Museeuw lookede strong while riding in PvP's slipstream but e would have
been beaten easily in the sprint by a rider with the power of Backstedt.
It might have been a nice idea but the reality is very different.



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Old 14-04.-2004, 06:33 AM   #21
Ewoud Dronkert
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Default Re: Show me when Johan has ever beaten Magnus in a sprint.

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:03:51 GMT, peterwright wrote:
> Museeuw lookede strong while riding in PvP's slipstream but e would have
> been beaten easily in the sprint by a rider with the power of Backstedt.


Oh really? Museeuw can do a power sprint.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/200...c02/?id=results
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Old 14-04.-2004, 03:28 PM   #22
Kenny
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Default Re: Show me when Johan has ever beaten Magnus in a sprint.

Ewoud Dronkert <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<01no709fd0r0o9748u8kb73qgb59arog0e@4ax.com>...
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:03:51 GMT, peterwright wrote:
> > Museeuw lookede strong while riding in PvP's slipstream but e would have
> > been beaten easily in the sprint by a rider with the power of Backstedt.

>
> Oh really? Museeuw can do a power sprint.
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/200...c02/?id=results


Amen
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