Chavanel at the top of Tourmelet

Chris

"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message
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> "Michael" <mdw3@nospam.cornell.edu> wrote in message
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> > I was watching the DVD version of the 2003 Tour de France
> > (12 hours, my friends) and I notice that Sylvain Chavanel chugged
> > a regular Coke as the passed over the top of the Tourmelet.
> >
> > Can that be right? I wouldn't think that's the best source of energy
> > in the middle of a race.
> >
> It might not be the perfect energy drink (like beer for instance),

It is a hell of a lot closer than people seem to think. As long as you are
not on the verge of dehydration...and besides, they are readily available
all along the course and the choice for the riders that can't get bottles
from their team is Coke or water. Coke beats water in many situations so
there you have it.

but it's
> cheap and the sugar and caffeine does wonders towards the end of a long
> ride. He would have had a bit of time to digest it too on the descent
before
> Luz Ardiden. 'course he still didn't win the stage...
>
> Jeff
>
>

Chris

"Davey Crockett" <Davey_Crockett@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Stewart Fleming <stewart.fleming@paradise.net.nz> writes:
>
> > Davey Crockett wrote:
> >
> >> Just checked my tapes. Dunno about Chavanel, but Rolf Aldag was
drinking Coke like it was going out of style on Stage 7 (Morzine)
> >
> > Tim Noakes has some words to say about the value of flat Coke in
long-distance running, particularly the Comrades Marathon.
> > It's in the _Lore of Running_ but I no longer have a copy :-(
> >
>
> Right. I do not know the precise quote to which you are referring.
>
> However, it has long been known that Coca-Cola, or similar ``soft
drinks'', when ``defizzed'' are excellent recovery drinks and I wondered
whether Chavanel, Aldag et alii might not have been imbibing the
de-carbonated variety.

Let's not forget that they are a Top Club sponsor and provide Coke (or
water) for neutral support.
>
> --
> le Vent a Dos
> Davey Crockett
> Six-Day site: http://members.rogers.com/sixday/sixday.html

Richard Adams

Davey Crockett <Davey_Crockett@rogers.com> wrote in message news:<878ygf83s8.fsf@cpe000423176ea9-cm0f2069983361.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com>...
> Stewart Fleming <stewart.fleming@paradise.net.nz> writes:
>
> > Davey Crockett wrote:
> >
> >> Just checked my tapes. Dunno about Chavanel, but Rolf Aldag was drinking Coke like it was going out of style on Stage 7 (Morzine)
> >
> > Tim Noakes has some words to say about the value of flat Coke in long-distance running, particularly the Comrades Marathon.
> > It's in the _Lore of Running_ but I no longer have a copy :-(
> >
>
> Right. I do not know the precise quote to which you are referring.
>
> However, it has long been known that Coca-Cola, or similar ``soft drinks'', when ``defizzed'' are excellent recovery drinks and I wondered whether Chavanel, Aldag et alii might not have been imbibing the de-carbonated variety.

There was a shot of a rider, possibly Michael Boogerd, during the 2002
tour chugging from a can. I assumed it was water in a Coke can.
Usually in the heat I'll get stomach cramps from overly sugary
beverages.

Tom Kunich

"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> Davey Crockett <Davey_Crockett@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> > Stewart Fleming <stewart.fleming@paradise.net.nz> writes:
> >
> > > Davey Crockett wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just checked my tapes. Dunno about Chavanel, but Rolf Aldag was
drinking Coke like it was going out of style on Stage 7 (Morzine)
> > >
> > > Tim Noakes has some words to say about the value of flat Coke in
long-distance running, particularly the Comrades Marathon.
> > > It's in the _Lore of Running_ but I no longer have a copy :-(
> > >
> >
> > Right. I do not know the precise quote to which you are referring.
> >
> > However, it has long been known that Coca-Cola, or similar ``soft
drinks'', when ``defizzed'' are excellent recovery drinks and I wondered
whether Chavanel, Aldag et alii might not have been imbibing the
de-carbonated variety.
>
> There was a shot of a rider, possibly Michael Boogerd, during the 2002
> tour chugging from a can. I assumed it was water in a Coke can.
> Usually in the heat I'll get stomach cramps from overly sugary
> beverages.

Whoever is carrying the cokes opens them up and lets the carbonation come
off naturally. As someone stated, as long as you aren't too dehydrated a
coke will give you a huge sugar rush that is good for about 45 minutes.
Contrary to what other's have said I never got an insulin dump afterwards
and a rootbeer or coke didn't give me a really sick stomach like all
"energy" drinks but Gatorade Frost does.

This last weekend I tried Gatorade Ice thinking that it was probably a
different flavor of the same thing. It isn't, but lukily the next ten miles
were easy and then I was out of the heat and my stomach settled.

Jeff Jones

"Richard Adams" <ackthpt@concentric.net> wrote in message
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> There was a shot of a rider, possibly Michael Boogerd, during the 2002
> tour chugging from a can. I assumed it was water in a Coke can.
> Usually in the heat I'll get stomach cramps from overly sugary
> beverages.

Up until about a month ago, there was a drink machine at the top of the
Berendries. Whenever I did that hill I'd stop at the top and get a coke,
down it as fast as possible, and continue back to Gent with the occasional
burp. It's only about 40 km from there so a coke is usually plenty to get me
home. Even if it's hot, I'll still go for a coke.

But they've taken the vending machine away now :-(

Jeff

John Forrest Tomlinson

On 29 Apr 2004 10:34:37 -0700, ackthpt@concentric.net (Richard Adams)
wrote:

>There was a shot of a rider, possibly Michael Boogerd, during the 2002
>tour chugging from a can. I assumed it was water in a Coke can.

You almost certainly assumed wrong.

JT

lazysegall

Although this is a bit different when I was at the tour in 99 about
every rider was grabbing cokes and slamming them down. Of course the
girls distributing them were pretty good looking too



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alex

Not mentioned in the article is the very good digestibility of Coke. I had
it recommended by doctors when suffering for example of diarrea or
stomach-upset. I always thought that the origin of Coca-Cola was as some
kind a medicinal-drink.

And I would not discard the placebo effect. Coca-Cola is an icon that
represents refreshment and coolness.


"Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
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> "Michael" <mdw3@nospam.cornell.edu> wrote in message
> news:bfTjc.24132$kk7.18987@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> > I was watching the DVD version of the 2003 Tour de France
> > (12 hours, my friends) and I notice that Sylvain Chavanel chugged
> > a regular Coke as the passed over the top of the Tourmelet.
> >
> > Can that be right? I wouldn't think that's the best source of energy
> > in the middle of a race.
> >
>
> http://www.sportsci.org/news/news9711/martin.html
>
>

Andy Coggan

"JTN" <jtn@usps.com> wrote in message
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> the french love coke. i saw more of that consumed during races than any
> other supposed sports drink. the favorite method is to have all the carb
> shaken out of it

Atkin's friendly Coca-Cola?

Andy Coggan

Richard Adams

Coca Cola, IIRC, began life as one of those elixirs peddled to cure
whatever ailed you and through various processes became a 'soft' drink,
without any narcotic content.

alex wrote:

> Not mentioned in the article is the very good digestibility of Coke. I had
> it recommended by doctors when suffering for example of diarrea or
> stomach-upset. I always thought that the origin of Coca-Cola was as some
> kind a medicinal-drink.
>
> And I would not discard the placebo effect. Coca-Cola is an icon that
> represents refreshment and coolness.
>
>
> "Carl Sundquist" <carlsun@cox-internet.com> wrote in message
> news:1090m5v1lpjpj16@corp.supernews.com...
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>>"Michael" <mdw3@nospam.cornell.edu> wrote in message
>>news:bfTjc.24132$kk7.18987@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>>
>>>I was watching the DVD version of the 2003 Tour de France
>>>(12 hours, my friends) and I notice that Sylvain Chavanel chugged
>>>a regular Coke as the passed over the top of the Tourmelet.
>>>
>>>Can that be right? I wouldn't think that's the best source of energy
>>>in the middle of a race.
>>>
>>
>>http://www.sportsci.org/news/news9711/martin.html
>>
>>
>
>
>

Stan Cox

Michael wrote:

> I was watching the DVD version of the 2003 Tour de France
> (12 hours, my friends) and I notice that Sylvain Chavanel chugged
> a regular Coke as the passed over the top of the Tourmelet.
>
> Can that be right? I wouldn't think that's the best source of energy
> in the middle of a race.
>
> Mike
>
>
Its well known that if you have no energy drink to hand, a bidon with
half coke & half water is a great replacement. Bit sticky to clean the
residue off the bike tho.

Stan Cox

jim gravity

lazysegall <usenet-forum@cyclingforums.com> wrote in message news:<Y5gkc.11345$8S2.8360@fe06.usenetserver.com>...
> Although this is a bit different when I was at the tour in 99 about
> every rider was grabbing cokes and slamming them down. Of course the
> girls distributing them were pretty good looking too
>
>
>
> --

There is a pic of a mountain stage where Lance, Jan and some other
contenders were passing a coke around.

John Forrest Tomlinson

Stan Cox <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<Crmkc.6$GB6.0@newsfe1-win>...
> Its well known that if you have no
> energy drink to hand, a bidon with
> half coke & half water is a great
> replacement. Bit sticky to clean the
> residue off the bike tho.

Is it harder to clean than any other sugary drink?

JT

lazysegall

John Forrest To wrote:
> Stan Cox <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<Crmkc.6$GB6.0@newsfe1-
> win>...
> > Its well known that if you have no energy drink to hand, a bidon with
> > half coke & half water is a great replacement. Bit sticky to clean the
> > residue off the bike tho.
> Is it harder to clean than any other sugary drink?
> JT



As if pro rider's clean their own bikes.



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