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Chavanel at the top of Tourmelet

 
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Old 01-05.-2004, 04:27 AM   #31
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"Michael" <mdw3@nospam.cornell.edu> wrote in message news:<bfTjc.24132$kk7.18987@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>...
> I was watching the DVD version of the 2003 Tour de France
> (12 hours, my friends) and I notice that Sylvain Chavanel chugged
> a regular Coke as the passed over the top of the Tourmelet.
>
> Can that be right? I wouldn't think that's the best source of energy
> in the middle of a race.
>
> Mike


In my marathoning days the best thing for me to drink from 20 miles
onward was de-fizzed coke. I couldn't imagine drinking a cold fresh
coke while riding or running because I'd have a tough time keeping it
down. For some reason gatorade and the like give me stomach cramps if
I drink them on the run. I guess the stomack soothing properties takes
care of those problems for me.

Andy
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Old 01-05.-2004, 04:54 AM   #32
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Stan Cox <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<Crmkc.6$GB6.0@newsfe1-win>...
> Michael wrote:
>
> > I was watching the DVD version of the 2003 Tour de France
> > (12 hours, my friends) and I notice that Sylvain Chavanel chugged
> > a regular Coke as the passed over the top of the Tourmelet.
> >
> > Can that be right? I wouldn't think that's the best source of energy
> > in the middle of a race.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >

> Its well known that if you have no energy drink to hand, a bidon with
> half coke & half water is a great replacement. Bit sticky to clean the
> residue off the bike tho.
>


I think racers will only drink from sealed water or pop bottles/cans
when handed up from spectators. (see warning in Mattis pee story re:
taking bottles from weird people by the side of the road).
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Old 01-05.-2004, 01:09 PM   #33
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Stan Cox <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<Crmkc.6$GB6.0@newsfe1-win>...
> Michael wrote:
> > >

> Its well known that if you have no energy drink to hand, a bidon with
> half coke & half water is a great replacement.


Water? I like half coca cola and half black coffee. if the coke's
flat, so much the better. Great pick-me-up for the last half hour or
so of a race.


> Bit sticky to clean the
> residue off the bike tho.
>
> Stan Cox

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Old 01-05.-2004, 03:21 PM   #34
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lazysegall wrote:
> John Forrest To wrote:
> > Stan Cox <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<Crmkc.6$GB6.0@newsfe1-
> > win>...
> > > Its well known that if you have no energy drink to hand, a bidon with
> > > half coke & half water is a great replacement. Bit sticky to clean the
> > > residue off the bike tho.

> > Is it harder to clean than any other sugary drink?
> > JT

>
>
>
> As if pro rider's clean their own bikes.
>
>
>
> --
>
>

Yet another way I differ from the pro's

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Old 01-05.-2004, 03:23 PM   #35
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RK wrote:

> Stan Cox <stanDOTcox@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<Crmkc.6$GB6.0@newsfe1-win>...
>
>>Michael wrote:
>>
>>Its well known that if you have no energy drink to hand, a bidon with
>>half coke & half water is a great replacement.

>
>
> Water? I like half coca cola and half black coffee. if the coke's
> flat, so much the better. Great pick-me-up for the last half hour or
> so of a race.


<homer> Mmmmmmmm Caffeine! </homer>

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Old 03-05.-2004, 11:19 AM   #36
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>
> This last weekend I tried Gatorade Ice thinking that it was probably a
> different flavor of the same thing. It isn't, but lukily the next ten miles
> were easy and then I was out of the heat and my stomach settled.
>
>

At one point in time I was quite annoyed to dicover that many flavors of
Gatorade have vegitable oil(s) in them. Why? I assumed (scary I know)
that it gave the stuff "substance". All those flavors ever do is give
me heartburn like tere's no tommorow...... I was also quite amused to
see riders in last years TdF ride up to the coke moto and crack a can
and slam it down. I had a difficult time believing it was "The Real
Thing.."
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Old 03-05.-2004, 01:19 PM   #37
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In article <c74a5i$6gh$1@terabinaries.xmission.com>,
Faster Bordello <Fast@Bordello.com> wrote:

> >
> > This last weekend I tried Gatorade Ice thinking that it was probably a
> > different flavor of the same thing. It isn't, but lukily the next ten miles
> > were easy and then I was out of the heat and my stomach settled.
> >
> >

> At one point in time I was quite annoyed to dicover that many flavors of
> Gatorade have vegitable oil(s) in them. Why? I assumed (scary I know)
> that it gave the stuff "substance". All those flavors ever do is give
> me heartburn like tere's no tommorow...... I was also quite amused to
> see riders in last years TdF ride up to the coke moto and crack a can
> and slam it down. I had a difficult time believing it was "The Real
> Thing.."


When describing the diet of the Tourists, the repeated litany from the
soigneurs is that the racers get really bored of gel and sports drinks
in short order. At some point they just want real food.

Cokes (and I believe if you look those are the Euro-size mini-cans, a
lot smaller than our standard 355 ml) offer a quick shot of caffeine and
sugar in a form that doesn't taste like your own sweat. It'll feel
pretty good once you get gassed enough.

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Old 03-05.-2004, 02:34 PM   #38
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Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>
> Cokes (and I believe if you look those are the Euro-size mini-cans, a
> lot smaller than our standard 355 ml) offer a quick shot of caffeine and


How mini do you think the Euro-size mini-cans are? Alternatively, how much
smaller does something have to be to be considered "a lot smaller?"


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Old 03-05.-2004, 07:00 PM   #39
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"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >
> > Cokes (and I believe if you look those are the Euro-size mini-cans, a
> > lot smaller than our standard 355 ml) offer a quick shot of caffeine and

>
> How mini do you think the Euro-size mini-cans are? Alternatively, how much
> smaller does something have to be to be considered "a lot smaller?"
>

And how do you think Australians feel when they come to Europe, having been
used to 375mL cans? It's positively heart wrenching to cross the 335mL
barrier. No wonder so many die of thirst when they're over here.

Jeff


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Old 04-05.-2004, 04:48 AM   #40
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Jeff Jones wrote:

> And how do you think Australians feel when they come to Europe, having been
> used to 375mL cans? It's positively heart wrenching to cross the 335mL
> barrier. No wonder so many die of thirst when they're over here.


Come to NZ where you can discover the delights of the 660ml bottle of
Stella Artois or Heineken or the local Speights.

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Old 04-05.-2004, 05:39 AM   #41
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"Jeff Jones" <jeff@cyclingnews-punt-com> wrote in message news:<4096189e$0$22807$a0ced6e1@news.skynet.be>...
> "Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:c74llt$hpcj4$1@ID-226327.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> > >
> > > Cokes (and I believe if you look those are the Euro-size mini-cans, a
> > > lot smaller than our standard 355 ml) offer a quick shot of caffeine and

> >
> > How mini do you think the Euro-size mini-cans are? Alternatively, how much
> > smaller does something have to be to be considered "a lot smaller?"
> >

> And how do you think Australians feel when they come to Europe, having been
> used to 375mL cans? It's positively heart wrenching to cross the 335mL
> barrier. No wonder so many die of thirst when they're over here.
>
> Jeff


No wonder so many of them look so sad and miserable in the US, we've
only got 355mL cans.

Damn fast ride in the heat yesterday and I was tempted to dump the
rest of my water over my head, but knew there were a couple hills to
come and I'd need it. People look at me funny when I say I miss the
marine layer. Probably that dutch blood.
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Old 04-05.-2004, 01:10 PM   #42
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In article <c74llt$hpcj4$1@ID-226327.news.uni-berlin.de>,
"Robert Chung" <me2@privacy.net> wrote:

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
> >
> > Cokes (and I believe if you look those are the Euro-size mini-cans, a
> > lot smaller than our standard 355 ml) offer a quick shot of caffeine and

>
> How mini do you think the Euro-size mini-cans are? Alternatively, how much
> smaller does something have to be to be considered "a lot smaller?"


Argh. Always asking the hard questions. I'd guess about 250 ml, no more.
I'm not thinking of the "standard" Euro-can, but those novelty fun-size
cans they occasionally sell over here, too.

I'm not sure this is what they had in the bikes, though. I'll need to
see some pretty good photos.

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